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Notes from the Smokey Mtn Gun Show

Sunday, September 14th, 2003 | East Tennessee, Guns |

Commando carbine, made in Knoxville, TennesseeJay and I went to the Smokey Mountain Gun Show yesterday at the Knoxville Expo Center. Here’s a summary of what we saw. If you have a 9 mm or .40 caliber pistol, be sure to read about the Kel-Tech Sub 2000 carbine, my pick of the show. You’ll also be interested if you need a light system for your shotgun, or have an interest in French pinfire guns of the 1800s.

We found a piece of local history at the show. In the picture at right Jay is holding the Commando, a .45 caliber Tommy Gun look-alike once manufactured in Knoxville, Tennessee. We also found a single shot shotgun marked “Volunteer Arms” with a hang tag saying “paint it orange and white.” I had never heard of the company, but according to this page they were headquartered in Louisville, Kentucky, so the Volunteer name is apparently a fluke. Too bad. It could have been the official boarding weapon of the Vol Navy.

I didn’t buy any guns, but I picked up a bore light, range bag, and rifle bag. I also snagged some ammunition, including some short, light-recoil 12 gauge shells that looked interesting.

The best thing I bought was an Advanced Technology light clamp and a TacStar light switch for my Mossberg shotgun. The clamp holds a standard Mini-Mag or other 1″ flashlight below the tubular magazine. The switch replaces the Mini-Mag’s tail cap, and has a curly cord running to a pressure switch that I mounted on the shotgun’s fore-end stock. Tapping the switch turns the Mini-Mag on and off. It’s a complete tactical light for about $40, as opposed to $300 or more for a SureFire or similar lighting system. (Later: I’ve decided the switch is flaky, so I’ll use the light’s own on/off switch instead.)


Jay’s favorites of the show were the various Browning shotguns, from the early autoloaders to their beautiful over-and-unders. It’s too bad they cost as much as any one of my first three cars! I’ll stick with the Mossberg, thanks.

On the utilitarian end, there were several Baikal Bounty Hunter side-by-side shotguns for around $400, in both exposed hammer and hidden hammer designs. The fit and finish were just so-so, and the checkering was atrocious, but for a functional side-by-side they represent a real bargain in a market where double guns cost a grand or more. The new Stevens guns are made by Baikal, and are reportedly made to better quality standards than products made under Baikal’s own brand.

Show Pick: Kel-Tec Sub 2000

Kel-Tec Sub 2000In the same affordable and practical category is the Kel-Tec Sub 2000, a semi-automatic carbine chambered in your choice of 9 MM or .40 S&W. Short and light when extended, the Kel-Tec breaks at the trigger to fold in half, for total storage dimensions of just 16″ by 7″. Thanks to polymer components, total weight is just 4 pounds. Most vendors were selling the Sub 2000 for about $315, which is remarkable.

What will really sell the little carbine is the magazine. Every time you buy a new autoloader, you wind up having to buy another set of magazines, right? Not so with the Sub 2000. It’s available in a variety of models designed to use the same magazines as popular 9 mm and .40 caliber pistols from Glock, S&W, SIG, and Beretta. GunBlast reviewed the Sub 2000 earlier this year. Gun Tests magazine also wrote favorably of it.

Ryan at the Guncraft Sports booth told me that the Knoxville Police Department doesn’t issue shotguns or rifles to their officers, but they’re free to buy one on their own. A number of officers have chosen the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 because it uses the same magazines as their department issue Glock .40s. Best of all, the folded carbine takes up very little space in the modern patrol car, which is packed to the ceiling with radio, computer, radar, and rescue gear.

I don’t know that I have a practical use for this gun, but it would be awfully fun to shoot, and for the price it’s worth having just for plinking. Consider it the modern version of the M1 carbine, but with a lower price and more practical magazines and ammunition.

Historical Arms

Any gun show will have guns that are old, but several collectors took the time to arrange educational displays of their permanent (not for sale) collections. One collector had flintlocks from the Revolutionary War and early American period.

Pinfire RevolverThe most interesting display was of pinfire revolvers. These days we take for granted that a self-contained cartridge has a primer mounted in the center of the cartridge bottom, but there was once several competing systems. In the 1820s, a French gunsmith named Casimir Lefaucheux invented the pinfire system, which featured a priming pin that protruded from the side of the cartridge.

Lefaucheux’s original design was for a double-barreled shotgun. A pinfire revolver was patented in England in 1854, though my sources disagree as to whether it was Casimir or his son Eugene who patented the design. In either case, the pinfire revolver was used extensively during the Crimean War and adopted by the French Navy. The example shown to the right is an 18-shot pinfire revolver with twin barrels.

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166 Comments to Notes from the Smokey Mtn Gun Show

Angel Italiano
October 18, 2003

I own a Volunteer Enterprises Inc. (Commando Arms in the late 70’s) Commando Mark III and I am looking for a manual for it. Can you help me locate one? Thank you, Angelo

Les Jones
October 19, 2003

Not sure where you’d find one. Does anyone else know?

TED CLARK
October 26, 2003

I HAVE A VOLUNTEER ENTERPRISES, COMMANDO MARK 9.IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS LET ME KNOW.THANKS

mark sojourner
November 9, 2003

i have wanted one these rifles for many years. any info where i might buy one,let me know!

Les Jones
November 10, 2003

Mark: There’s another gun show in Knoxville November 22-23. If I see one there I’ll get the dealer’s name.

D.W
November 10, 2003

I have a 45 cal.semi-auto volunteer enterprises inc. from knoxville tenn.and its a commando mark III. TED CLARK. IT IS IN GOOD SHAPE AND WORKS GREAT YOU CAN EMAIL ME IF YOU ARE INTRESTED D.W. STANLEY CLUTE TX

caveman
November 18, 2003

i have a volunteer arm ,s mark 45 that needs a mag can anyone help me find one? thanks

Les Jones
November 22, 2003

I went to another gun show today. Cris Hughes at Crazy Horse Arms in Walland, Tennsee has a Commando for $499. It has a few scratches on the upper right receiver. The wood doesn’t exactly match on the stocks and pistol grip, but for all I know that’s typical for these guns. You can reach him at 865-681-4309.

Greg
November 26, 2003

Does anyone here know Tuco of Gunboards? I know he is in Knoxville TN and his sites are massive. I just wanted to meet the guy.

mirando ketner
December 16, 2003

I have one of these volunteer commandos and I would like to know how to tear it down. If anyone can help please email mail me, thanks

marc
January 5, 2004

just inherited a volunteer commando mark45 and stumbled across this link on how to break it down, hope it helps. http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17579

marc
January 5, 2004

just inherited a volunteer commando mark45 and stumbled across this link on how to break it down, hope it helps. http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17579

yvonne
January 12, 2004

I found a commando mark 45 that needs mechanical parts,can anyone point me in the right direction?

sandy
January 29, 2004

i have an 18 shot pinfire pistol like the one in the picture from knoxville. i was so excited to see that another one exist. i have researched it many times, but have never seen one. any idea on pricing?

b78bigbore
February 20, 2004

I too need a magazine for a Volunter Arms Commando Mark III .45ACP. I bought a grease gun m3 magazine, but it won’t fit. Can anyone help?

trevino
March 2, 2004

I have a Volunteer 45CAL.Commando Mark III. Need ejector for it. or any other parts. Can anyone help?

CHAOS
April 25, 2004

On a 45 cal Mark III Commando /with a rectangle hole mag well… use a 45 cal grease gun mag WITH A ENLONGATED D HOLE mag catch interface.If hole is square,carefully machine LATTERLY with dremel steel cillender colum cutter. I still search for parts.Mags at gun shows.Note = this is for 30 rd mags

trikerjp
May 7, 2004

I too need an ejector. If some one can just point me in the direction of a correct set of drawings, I will machine one. I just need manufacturing drawings. Thanks guys

Roy Hobbes
May 8, 2004

WANTED: parts, especially receiver parts for the Volunteer Commando Mark IV. Send .jpg & price to Roy Hobbes c/o ny_knights@hotmail.com

Mike Cash
June 12, 2004

I have a Commando Mark 9–might be willing to sell or trade–anyone have a manual on it? Let
me know by E-mail.

Eddie Parr
June 17, 2004

I have a Commando mark 45, that bought new many years ago, and I need a replacement barrel. Can anyone help?

scott
June 27, 2004

I have a volunteer enterprises commando mark III for sale. It is in very good condition. The first $499 plus shipping takes it.

scott
June 27, 2004

My e-mail is sapienevolvis@yahoo.com. The commando I have has the 30 round magazine and is in very good condition. This message is an atachment for the above message.

jerryhamilton
July 17, 2004

i have a commamdo mark 45 from volunteer enterprises.inc with six clips. WHAT IS IT WORTH.
TELEPHONE NO 256-685-3682.DOES ANYONE HAVE A BOOK ON IT.

Mike Watson
July 28, 2004

Hi all, I just purchased an enterprise volunteer commando 45 and would like to correspond with others having the same gun. Sounds like there is a shortage of parts and manuals. Would appreciate any info, thanks. Mike

Allan Carter
August 7, 2004

I’m looking for a Mark III or IV.
Please e-mail price and condition.
uspvteyes@msn.com
Allan Carter
800-790-9098

Jaxson
August 8, 2004

I have (2) magazines for the Volunteer Arms COmmando Mark III .45 ACP rifle.

I will sell them for $35.00 each plus $5.00 shipping.

I recently acquired an early Commando Mark III here in Atlanta for $300. It was beat-up and rusted, but functioned perfectly and shot a one-hole group @ 50′, in spite of the poor sights and trigger. The trigger and related parts appear similar to those on the Grease Gun, and the WWII Thompson had similar sights. This gun is more accurate than the original because of the longer barrel and closed bolt firing. It weighs less too; 8 lbs vs. 11 lbs…
My gun has no plastic at all; grip is metal and is part of the aluminum lower. I took the gun completely apart–you don’t need a manual– and found it to be very easy to work on. Only potential problem I found was with the extractor; it was cracked & battered. This could be fixed by inletting a smaller extractor from another gun into the old one–no parts are available for these guns. The striker resembles those used on pocket autos; I had to replace the spring. Another problem I found was that the mag well is too tight for most Grease Gun mags; I opened up mine with a wood rasp…
My research shows that a similar gun, but with a round reciever, was marketed c.1970 as the “Eagle Apache”. The last version of the Mark III was called “Mark 45 Commando” and used a polymer lower…
If you have a gun with plastic grip & forend, these can be easily fashioned from walnut, which will improve the looks. You need a router for the horizontal forend or a scroll saw for the vertical grip. The hard part is finding walnut these days– none of the home improvement stores have it…

I recently acquired an early Commando Mark III here in Atlanta for $300. It was beat-up and rusted, but functioned perfectly and shot a one-hole group @ 50′, in spite of the poor sights and trigger. The trigger and related parts appear similar to those on the Grease Gun, and the WWII Thompson had similar sights. This gun is more accurate than the original because of the longer barrel and closed bolt firing. It weighs less too; 8 lbs vs. 11 lbs…
My gun has no plastic at all; grip is metal and is part of the aluminum lower. I took the gun completely apart–you don’t need a manual– and found it to be very easy to work on. Only potential problem I found was with the extractor; it was cracked & battered. This could be fixed by inletting a smaller extractor from another gun into the old one–no parts are available for these guns. The striker resembles those used on pocket autos; I had to replace the spring. Another problem I found was that the mag well is too tight for most Grease Gun mags; I opened up mine with a wood rasp…
My research shows that a similar gun, but with a round reciever, was marketed c.1970 as the “Eagle Apache”. The last version of the Mark III was called “Mark 45 Commando” and used a polymer lower…
If you have a gun with plastic grip & forend, these can be easily fashioned from walnut, which will improve the looks. You need a router for the horizontal forend or a scroll saw for the vertical grip. The hard part is finding walnut these days– none of the home improvement stores have it…

I recently acquired an early Commando Mark III here in Atlanta for $300. It was beat-up and rusted, but functioned perfectly and shot a one-hole group @ 50′, in spite of the poor sights and trigger. The trigger and related parts appear similar to those on the Grease Gun, and the WWII Thompson had similar sights. This gun is more accurate than the original because of the longer barrel and closed bolt firing. It weighs less too; 8 lbs vs. 11 lbs…
My gun has no plastic at all; grip is metal and is part of the aluminum lower. I took the gun completely apart–you don’t need a manual– and found it to be very easy to work on. Only potential problem I found was with the extractor; it was cracked & battered. This could be fixed by inletting a smaller extractor from another gun into the old one–no parts are available for these guns. The striker resembles those used on pocket autos; I had to replace the spring. Another problem I found was that the mag well is too tight for most Grease Gun mags; I opened up mine with a wood rasp…
My research shows that a similar gun, but with a round reciever, was marketed c.1970 as the “Eagle Apache”. The last version of the Mark III was called “Mark 45 Commando” and used a polymer lower…
If you have a gun with plastic grip & forend, these can be easily fashioned from walnut, which will improve the looks. You need a router for the horizontal forend or a scroll saw for the vertical grip. The hard part is finding walnut these days– none of the home improvement stores have it…

dave bergquist
September 3, 2004

Yesterday I was given .45 cal commando mark III. It has a wooden stock and foregrip but the lowergroup looks like aluminum or something. The top half the gun looks real and the bottom looks fake. My first thought was that this was not a real firearm or at least not a working firearm. I was unable to locate the manufacturer in kentucky but upon looking further it seems that there are a lot of these out there. What’s the story on it? Is this thing real or some kind of prop gun. I have no magazines with it but it does seem to function although the bolt does not seem to go all the way back acording to the slot on the upper receiver. It does cock however and will dry fire. Any information that someone might have would be appreciated.

Dave

Craig Taylor
September 12, 2004

I am looking for a Commando Mark III .45 caliber carbine.I previously owned a Mark III but traded it for another firearm.Please E mail me your asking price and the condition.

Craig,

Jesse Sweiger
September 15, 2004

My mom left me a Commando mark 45 in her will, i have two grease gun clips that do not work correctly. The fired round is being ejected, however the next one is being jammed completeley vertical. any magazine info or information on a Drum would be greatly appreciated..

Patrick Sanders
September 16, 2004

I just purchased a Volunteer Ent. Inc. Mark 45 Commando. I was looking for some info and maybe a manual for it? Any help or info will be appreciated. Thanks

JP
September 24, 2004

I just picked up a Mark III that is almost perfect. It fires really nice. Only one clip though. If any body finds a source for clips let me know.

Ted Medley
September 26, 2004

My Dad bought a 12 guage, 34″, full choke Volunteershot gun, serial # A861083 somewhere around 69 years ago. I would like to find out what year it was made. If you can find uot for me, please email me at the above address.

Thanks, Ted Medley

JOE
October 12, 2004

I was left a commando mark 45 by my dad i want to know where and how i can register this gun to keep it …..also any books on how to clean and maintain…..thanks

bob s.
October 29, 2004

i have a commando mark 3. made by vol. ent. i would be interested in selling it. very good shape. shoots great.

Ken Plummer
November 18, 2004

I have been trying to find information on Lefaucheux revolvers as used by the North and South during the Civil War. I have a double action pistol of about .43 caliber. It does not have serial numbers but has a G under a crown, an oval containing an E and an L, the number 19 stamped on most major parts, CSA on the front of the right side of the frame over the front screw of the trigger guard, and a J. Russel & Co. Green River Works blade welded under the barrel. My guess is that it was purchased for the Confederate Navy since the blade would be handy during close quarters combat on shipboard. Any other facts or suggestions would be helpful. Thanks. KP

ED
December 8, 2004

I just got a volunteer ent. mark IV. And while resourses are hard to find we all seem to have one. any one had any luck finding out if some of the parts are interchangable with thomson?

RICK OVERTON
December 12, 2004

I have a 45 semi auto from volunteer enterprises commando mark 45 do you know if any drums are made for this model

Kuang
December 19, 2004

I just got a COPY of a Commando Mark III 45ACP manual. Let me know if you would be interested. I can either email you a copy ($3) or mail you a paper copy ($5). I prefer to take paypal.

David Lindsay
December 24, 2004

Hi, I have a Commando mark V made by Volunteer Interprises Inc. out of Knoxville Ten. Would like to know about how much it is worth and if anyone has any kind of information about the gun. That would be of much help to me. You can email me if you have any information…buckshot_982@hotmail.com…Thank you.

J. B. Boyd
December 25, 2004

Fourteen (14) 30 round 45ACP grease gun magazine for sale, $10 each. They are new or like new condition

JIM
January 10, 2005

I also have become a new owner to this carbine, but in my cleaning and assembley I find that i’m in need of a firing pin. any information on were too for parts let me know .

thanks jim….. jillidge@netzero.net

Shawn
January 20, 2005

I have a Commando Mark 45 and was wondering where can I et a replacement barrel and what are this gun worth. Email me at bigglemm@yahoo.com with any comments

aaron
February 20, 2005

I just picked up a volunteer enterprises inc comando mark III. Can anyone tell me what it might be worth? It is in pretty good condition. Also i am thinking of putting a new barrel on it, if anyone has any info on this let me know.

Larry Thomas
February 21, 2005

Anyone wanting to sell their Commando Mark III’s should contact me by e-mail (with pics attached if possible). I will purchase as many as I can find.

Thanks,
Larry Thomas
http://www.pistolpacking.com

Larry THomas
February 25, 2005

I have decided to sell my gun as parts as I have pirchased another in working order. The following is a list of parts and prices:

Aluminum lower, complete, finish “ruff” - $200.00
wood buttstock & vertical foreend grip, good - $150.00
barrell/reciever, good - $200.00
(2) magazines, M3 (non-Thonmpson), good - $ $35.00 each or $65.00 /both
bolt, missing firing pin, good - & $75.00
recoil spring/buffer, good - $15.00

Please contact me through e-mail at thereisnospoon@charter.net

Paul Thompson
March 1, 2005

I have a semi auto .45 Commando mark 45 serial number 54730. It’s in great shape with a stick mag. anyone interested?

PATRICK
March 6, 2005

LOOKING FOR MAGS AND PARTS FOR MY VOLUNTEER ARMS MARK 45

Michael
March 19, 2005

I have a barrelled reciever for the mark 45 for sale best offer, all ATF rules apply. I am in Michigan so if you live here you are in luck, or else you pay FFl to recieve for you. Decent shape outside minor rust spots here and there, all would clean with steel wool and oil. Bore is purdy shiny..

thanks

BOBBY ROWE
March 21, 2005

I AM LOOKING FOR THE REAR STOCK AND THE FORE GRIP FO A COMMANDO MARK III 45 CAN ANYONE HELP.

BOBBY

Bobby Rowe
March 24, 2005

i have a commando mark III 45 cal. i am looking for the rear stock and the front grip for it can anyone help me

Mark
April 2, 2005

i have just aquired a Volunteer commando 45 like i have never seen or owned. the upper reciever,barrel,screws and sling swivel are nickel plated. the lower reciever is polymer. wood buttstock,plastic front grip. anyone ever seen one like it? it shoots great.
thanks- Mark

JACK BECKHAM
April 14, 2005

I HAVE A SINGLE SHOT 12GA. SHOTGUN HANDED DOWN TO ME FROM MY FATHER AND HE FROM HIS FATHER. THE ONLY MARKINGS ON THE GUN IS ‘VOLUNTEER 12GA FULL’. THIS GUN DOES NOT HAVE A MANUFACTURER LOCATION, SERIAL #, OR PATIENT DATE. CAN ANYONE ADVISE WHERE I CAN FIND INFORMATION ABOUT THIS GUN? ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. E-MAIL IS jbeckham@sbcglobal.net

BOBBY ROWE
April 23, 2005

I have an orginal manual for the Commando Mark III. It has the tear down of the gun also. I will sell copies on CD for $21.95. This includes shipping.

Tony Rice
May 15, 2005

I’m looking for magazines for my Mark 9 can anyone direcft me?
Also information on the maker are they still around?

gene
June 5, 2005

Looking for muzzle brake for Volunteer Commando 45.

Jared Schmal
June 5, 2005

I have parts for sale, they are for a Volunteer Enterprise Commando Mark 5

Buttstock w/screws- $100
2 Magazines- $30 each
Bolt and Firing Pin- $125
Barrell/Reciever- $200
Recoil Spring- $15

All are in good condition, I can also e-mail pictures. If interested please e-mail me at K42X56P@hotmail.com

Les Jones
June 15, 2005

Here’s one two message board posts with more info on the Commando, including disassembly instructions.

mike adams
June 15, 2005

I have a Mark III. firing pin broke. then I lost it. Have a drawing from (Lee Baker) of the Hunters Den in Reno, but it doesn’t make sense to the machinist I have showed it to. anyone know where I can get one or one made ?

Sam
June 23, 2005

I have a Volunteer Commando Mark 111 45 cal semi auto for sale is in very good condition no rust no scratches wood stock and forearm looks like walnut sling swivels muzzle brake pistol grip The only prob is it jams. Will take 600.00 for it. Serial number is 13159 appears to have had little or no use.

BILL
July 2, 2005

I HAVE A COMMANDO MARK 111 AND I WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO GET PARTS, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFROMATION ON HOW I CAN FIX IT? THANK U ANY INFO WILL HELP ME!

Jim
July 27, 2005

I have a mark 3, It fires great. I bought it from an old man at a gun show. It had set in closet for over 10 years. Had three light rusted finger print on it, removed with steel wool and gun oil. The wood is great. Had it for couple of years. Can any one tell me what its worth. I turned down $800 the same day.

Brian
July 28, 2005

how to remove bolt handle from Browning semi 12 guage for cleaning?

SUSIE
August 1, 2005

MY DAD HAS AN OLD GUN & IS INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT WHAT IT IS WORTH. WHERE SHOULD I LOOK AND WHAT KIND OF INFO DO I NEED. THEY FOUND THE FOLLOWING INFO ON IT: WINCHESTER REPEATING ARMS NEW HAVEN, USA KING INPROVEMENT PATENTED MARCH 29, 1866 ALSO HAS THE DATE OCT 16, 1860.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.

Les Jones
August 2, 2005

Susie: that’s likely a pretty darned valuable gun. Sounds like an 1866 Winchester, which was the first to have the King’s loading gate on the side which all subsequent Winchesters had. You ought to have it appraised in person by someone knowledgeable.

Wayne
August 14, 2005

I’m looking for the bullet guide for a MK45 made by Volunteer Arms. Please email me if you have one for sale or know where I might find one. cherylbales@charter.net

Zach
August 19, 2005

Hey, I’m looking for some more information and if possible some pictures of that 18-shot pinfire revolver. I’m working on a comic and I thought that that revolver would make the perfect weapon for a character I have in mind. I’m having trouble wrapping my mind around how you would shoot something like that(Does it use 2 hammers? Does it fire 2 rounds at the same time or do they fire individually?(I am by no means a gun expert so forgive me if I sound, well, stupid)). Thanks in advance for any help.

Boyce Johns
September 11, 2005

I recently purched a Comando Mark 45 ( Volunteer) I hope someone can give me a little Infomation on this wepon like how to find the year. It has a serial #38420 I would like to know what it is worth I gave $350.00 for it at a auction hope I diden’t get riped. I also need a sling and hardware for it. Thanks

Billy
September 14, 2005

I need a ammo feed ramp for a Commando Mark 45 can anyone help? Also some clips.

Thank you

Billy

satchimo
October 3, 2005

lot,s of info on this site. I would reccomend everyone with questions about the commando mk.111, from clips to manuels read from the start, because it`s all there. the only thing not discussed is a full auto conversion. am I the only one hypothetically curious ?

Andrew Moseley
October 5, 2005

I need instructions on how to assemble the action for a browning bottom ejection/loading 12gauge shotgun it will slide back and forth properly but it wont cock the trigger please send me some sources.my thanks

darlene
November 9, 2005

my friend has a 45 cal semi automatic commando
mark III made by volunteer Enterprises, which now we know have changed names, to commando arms
the serial 25782 patent 3695143 can you tell us any more on this gun. how many where made. any history or interesting information.

B ROWE
December 3, 2005

I NEED THE REAR STOCK FOR A CAMMANDO MARK III ACP 45. WILL ANY OF THE THOMPSON STOCKS FIT THIS GUN. PLEASE HELP. REAPERNINK666@YAHOO.COM

MLowe
December 4, 2005

Looking for laser and mount for Sub2000. Also front sight made by Blue Force. Any help appreciated.

Dean Ward
December 14, 2005

“Wanted”, to purchase Volunteer Cammando Mark III. Perferd with the wood front pistol grip. Any unit, complete, rough or broken. The units must be from the vintage that had the metal casting for the lower portion. This is were Volnteer didn’t have the sheet metal around the mag. & triger housing. The housing were cast metal machined.
E-mail Dean at: wardmfg@chartermi.net

Heddonaddict
December 16, 2005

Wanted to buy. Barrel and receiver for Commando Mark III. Please email at managerf19@aol.com

Frank Colello
December 25, 2005

I need a Mag and a Wooden rear Stock complete, for Volunteer Enterprises, Commando Mark III, 45 Cal.. Can anyone help.

Frank Colello
December 26, 2005

I need a mag and a wooden stock complete, for a volunteer enterprises, commando mark III, can anyone help. CTFOP21@AOL.COM

Juan Carlos
December 28, 2005

I have a pinfire twin barrel revolver I received many years ago from my grand father. He was a militar who found it in an old battle field of the Pacific War (Peru - Chile 1879 to 1884). It apparently belong to a peruvian or a chilean officer who lost it during the battle.
Examining some guns web pages I deducted is a first generation Lefaucheux piece. The revolver is complete and need a cleaning. Could you please tell me if am I right with the manufacturer as well as if you have any idea of the price in the market, since I pretend to sell it soon. Attached some pictures.

Many thanks. Juan Carlos

john
January 25, 2006

i have a volunteer ent. mark 3 in .45 cal., it is a great shooter! i dialed in a quite small group at our 80 yard range up the mtns. if you look up g.p.c. in west hurley, n.y. you can most likely get mags. for this gun, that`s where i got a bunch of them quite reasonably priced.one mention i saw regarding mags. mentioned milling a semi-circle at the bottom end of the rectangular mag. catch hole. i know this works also. anyone wishing to discuss this , please e-mail me. good luck, good shooting, and keep those crazy dems. out of office.long live n.r.a.

kory
February 12, 2006

i just bought a volunter commando mark III it has the vertical front grip i would like to buy a horizontal grip does anyone know if the thompson horizontal grip will fit these seem to be more readily avail. than any parts for the volunteer model i would also trade my vertical grip for a horizonal thanks

Gene Locke
February 14, 2006

I am looking for some SS2 oil. I have been using the oil I bought 25 years abo and am almost out. It was manufactured by Totally Dependable Products

thanks for any help
Gene

Jay P. Johnson
February 27, 2006

I have a commando mark 3 and would like to buy a horizontal forgrip , I have the vertical grip and will do a cash / trade or whatever. Mostly I would like to buy 1,2,3, or 4 mags. 30 RD or more. email me jaytoby459@hotmail.com . Thanks

Jay P. Johnson
March 2, 2006

Volunteer enterprises, commando mark 111 , 45 acp. I need the back plug that holds the spring and internal parts in ,the plug has two bolts one from the top running threw the rear sight from the top and the rear stock bolt which I also need the bolt farthest to the rear which also goes threw the plug. I am willing to pay well Thanks, email / jaytoby459@hotmail.com

Jay P. Johnson
March 4, 2006

I was at a gun show and guess what, I found an ejector AND a firing pin goes to our mark 3s and commando 45s I dont know which other vollunteers it will fit, it (the bag) is writen commando 45 but I got home and saw it was the same as the mark 3s . I guess highest offer will take. I also could break a pin but I put a SNAPPER in the mag. first, a 45 shell made of plastic.To keep from dry firing. Jaytoby459@hotmail.com

Everette Russell
March 20, 2006

I also have a commando mark 3 .45 caliber semi-auto voluteer and I am interested in purchasing clips for my gun. If there is anybody out there that have extra clips email me at egrltr@yahoo.com if the price is right. Thank you in advance for your help. Also if anyone have a clip or clips to a 20 gauge bolt action shotgun please email asap. Thank you in advance

Jay P. Johnson
March 30, 2006

I have a MARK 3 in 45 acp and I am looking for the rear plug and bottom bolt that runs up through the stock. My comments are not the next up but the next three, they are more detailed. Just look for the same name above the next one. I will pay well for these parts. email / jaytoby459@hotmail.com

Jay P. Johnson
March 31, 2006

I Have the last 3 or 4 comments on this page, just look for my name and they are more detailed. I would just like to say I will pay well for these parts. Rear plug,main recoil spring , rear bolt for stock that runs thrue stock and into rear plug. I am interested in other parts for this rifle ie. MAGS. 20 , 30 any amount.this is for the mark 3, 45acp volunteer enterprize as explained above. email jaytoby459@hotmail.com

brad
July 9, 2006

I have a commando mark 3 that i would like to break down to clean. Can you give me any info on that and where i might find parts? Is volunteer still in business? THANKS

ken
July 26, 2006

Owners of Mark III .45 Commando carbines: Magazines- buy Thompson sub-gun mags and elongate the release hole at the rear edge.
Receiver endcap: Just use a piece of steel or aluminum square stock, and drill and tap for the capscrews to hold it in (1/4-20 or 1/4-28, I think) Mine has a horizontal front handgrip, I don’t know where to get vertical handgrips, the horizontal ones should be rather easy to make. One of J B Woods’ books has a section on disassembly of the firearm; I copied the pertinent pages at the library. Mine also is very accurate and reliable. It was also quite comforting during the “Rodney King” stupidities!! I’d like to find another barrel for mine, but no luck so far. Hope I have been of some help to the owners of these neat little guns. Have fun and take care.

Felix
July 30, 2006

I have the commando mk 111 and I have a vertical grip on it. I really want the horizontal grip, does anyone have one i could buy/trade? dukecitybovverboy@comcast.net

jeff marcum
July 30, 2006

I have a 45.commando mark 45 i need a stock and a clip for one if someone has one for sale

Anonymous
October 18, 2006

I have a Commando Mark III serial # 25637, very good condition. The gun has muzzle break, sling hardware,1 magazine, 1 loading sleeve. All wood in very good condition. The rear hand grip where trigger is has been slightly polished. The gun also has a fluted barrle. All in working order, looking to get $450.00 for the whole gun.

Bill Quigley, Baltimore Md. 443-220-6626

David
October 23, 2006

Hi, I’m a gunsmith from sc. I’ve been trying to find a parts schematic for a volunteer commando 45 . Please email me if anyone has one.

scott
October 29, 2006

hello, im looking for a commando mark 3 or 4,to buy, email me at scottblack21@comcast.net

Donna Cherry
November 2, 2006

Hello, I inherited a Commando Mark III 45 caliber semi-auto from my dad. It seems to be in excellent condition. I need to know what it is worth. Help! Please email me and let me know. Thanks Dcherry317@aol.com

Donna Cherry
November 2, 2006

Hello, I inherited a Commando Mark III 45 caliber semi-auto from my dad. It seems to be in excellent condition. I need to know what it is worth. Help! Please email me and let me know. Thanks Dcherry317@aol.com

ron ehman
November 5, 2006

I have a near perfect condition commando mark III that has only one ten round clip shot thru. the wood is flawless, metal is perfect. Has the original sling , which is also perfect. Need to know what the gun would be worth?looking to sell it. any help would be greatky appreciated. snag@centurytel.net thanks ron ehman

bill
November 21, 2006

I’m looking for a lower reciver for a comando mark 3 or a mark .45 call me 951 544 6246 bill will pay cash

bill
November 21, 2006

I’m looking for a lower reciver for a comando mark 3 or a mark .45 call me 951 544 6246 bill will pay cash

bill
November 21, 2006

I’m looking for a lower reciver for a comando mark 3 or a mark .45 call me 951 544 6246 bill will pay cash

tom
November 24, 2006

I am looking for a clip to fit my Commando Arms mark 9// 9MM.

Justin Skripac
December 14, 2006

I have mark III 45 that I inherited from my grandfather.That I would like to sell for the right price. It has 30 round clip and looks to be in very good shape. I live in Indiana so I’d
need to find out the legalities for selling it.

Justin Skripac
December 14, 2006

E-mail for above comment vamp0929@comcast.net

Jerome Jenson
December 17, 2006

I have Thompson 30 rd Mags, $25/obo +S&H; also Mil 3rd mag pouch for Thompson clips, $25/obo +S&H. 1 Chrome Thompson 30rd clip,$50 +S&H, all clips for 45ACP. Email @ JerryJenson62@msn.com

Ralph Green
December 28, 2006

I have a Commando Mark 45 Pat # 3695143. I have six (6) Thompson 30 round clips but they will not allow the slide to return. I am in need of clips that will. This gun is in better than excellent condition but I would appreciate any information on access to the correct clips and I also would like to get rid of the clips that I now have. Thank You All in advance for any help with this!

jeff carter
December 31, 2006

I need a copy of an manual for a commando mark III thanks

jeff carter
December 31, 2006

I need a copy of an manual for a commando mark III thanks Jeffcarter@mindspring.com

Mack
January 4, 2007

New Show - In April Go to http://www.gunboards.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=61 For info

clint wood
January 17, 2007

i have a commando 9mm vol.entrpr.the trigger assy is bad.need a new one or something compatiable.

Joe Seck
February 14, 2007

I have a commando mark 45.and the owners parts and disassembly hand book.I need a buffer and spring.

shawn murphy
February 20, 2007

i have a commando mark v and i am looking for a clip,thanks, 30 round 45cal.mine shoots fine and is in good condition guess i am lucky here as other people seem to have a lot of broken parts on mark IIIs,mk45s.

Karl G
May 5, 2007

I would love to pay for a copy of the manual for a COMMANDO MARK III 45 CAL. SEMI-AUTO . I also woul like to have a rear syock and mounting hardware. I would like to purchase one for parts.
email me at karl33565@yahoo.com

Karl G
May 5, 2007

That is “stock”

Steven Z
June 6, 2007

I have a Coommando III in original styrofoam box that has never been fired I might want to sell. It has a manual with it I could copy and send if any one would like a copy. Email me.

Steven Z
June 6, 2007

have a Coommando III in original styrofoam box that has never been fired I might want to sell. It has a manual with it I could copy and send if any one would like a copy. Email me.

Posted by: Steven Z at June 06, 2007
email is ecrs@premier1.net

Tara B
June 6, 2007

i have a commando mark 9, 9 mm semi auto with 2 clips if anyone is interested. It is in great condition except small wear on the pistol grip…nothing major. Taekwondoboss@aol.com

phillip
August 18, 2007

Does any body know where i can find a firing pin for a commando mark III?

Victor
August 21, 2007

i have a commando mark 3 what are you willing to spend

phillip
August 24, 2007

what mags fit the markIII grease gun or sten?

phillip
August 24, 2007

what mags fit the markIII grease gun or sten?

Bob Hobbs
August 31, 2007

Hello I need a mag or two for the Commando Mark 45 I just got. When I recieved it the mag that was sent wont stay in the slot I have noticed there are more than one type of mags for these guns. Mine takes the kind that has the groves on the edge. any help call 423-383-0689 or email MosbyJon@aol.com

Brian
September 4, 2007

I’m looking for a 75-100 rnd drum for my Commando Mark 9 (9mm). Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanx.

mark
September 7, 2007

If anyone is wanting to purchase a commando mark 111 I have one. email me at markslostlunker@yahoo.com for more info on it. Thank you

Gary
September 10, 2007

I Have a 9mm Commando Mark III made by Manchester Arms, Inc. Plus many spare parts and strings, extra 30 rounds mags. email me at arney@sgtgrit.com SUBJECT: Mark III

mark
September 11, 2007

I have a CAMMANDO MARK III 45 straight stick I would be interested in selling. You can email me at markslostlunker@yahoo.com if your intereted.

Craig
September 30, 2007

Just purchased a dandy Mark III. Anyone who has the manual and could copy and send or email, it would be greatly app. Great little shooter. Appears that the extractor and firing pin are problems? Any resolution as to parts, where to find or details on machining ? Thanks ALL

Erin Houk
October 11, 2007

My father needs a diagram of a Commando Mark III. It has been gutted to an automatic and he wants to return it to its original, legal condition. I see that some of you have manuals, but I’m unable to contact you with the information given.

Can anyone help us out?

Erin at ekhouk@aol.com

Don
November 12, 2007

I need a working firing pin for the Volunteer Enterprises Commando Mark 45. PH.731-217-3082

SCOTT
November 29, 2007

I HAVE A THOMPSON COMMANDO MARK 9,,,IT IS MISSING THE BUTT OF THE GUN AND FRONT HANDLE PLUS CLIP, OTHER THAN THAT THE GUN IS WORKING 100% IN GOOD CONDITION. I AM LOOKING FOR IT PRESENT VALUE AND POSSIBLY A BUYER. IF INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT ME AT MY DIRECT# 215-631-4077 OR EMAIL — DEBKUR0@AOL.COM THANKS FOR ALL HELP IN THIS MATTER!! SCOTT

Jeff
December 3, 2007

I have a Volunteer Enterprises Commando Mark III 45 semi auto, 30 rd. clip, and user manual. This gun is in great condiction and it is for sale. I will take $600. jwalters4010@charter.net

Amy
December 27, 2007

I’m looking for a clip for a Commando Mark III 45 semi auto. If you can help me locate one please email me at mrsamy77@aol.com

ted
December 30, 2007

I’m looking for a low cap mag 15 or under for a Commando Mark III 45 semi auto.
email junkmanted@optonline.net

Mike Eden
January 6, 2008

I have a complete upper marked Volunteer Enterprises Inc. 45cal semi-auto commando mark V
I will sell for $300.00 including shipping email me at meden892@charter.net-Thanks.

Mike Eden
January 6, 2008

I have a complete upper marked Volunteer Enterprises Inc. 45cal semi-auto commando mark V
I will sell for $300.00 including shipping email me at meden892@charter.net-Thanks.

Ernest
January 6, 2008

Hello, can someone with access post the disassembly procedure (with pics, perhaps) of the Commando? The links found above have not helped in our search

Larry Richei
January 11, 2008

I am in search of clip for a commando markIII 45 caliber rifle.
Drop me an e-mail if you have oen for sale
Thanks

Bruce
January 20, 2008

A copy of the Commando Mark 45 owners manual is available from Novelty Guns thru GunBroker.com. Just type in “Commando Arms” and his ad should come up. My Mark 3 says patent pending on it, seriel# 03335. Anyone know when it was made??

ROB
January 30, 2008

I have a 45 commando mark 111 in great shape, two 30rd. clips,and the manual asking 500.00 for it. contact Rob wmb@blazeconnect.net

mark seymour
February 4, 2008

Thats good I just wanted to say I am life long Knoxvillion and a few years a ago my Uncle passed away and he left an old I mean real old single shot 12 ga. shotgun I was wondering if someone could look a it sometime and tell me about it.

Mike
February 9, 2008

Anyone have or know of any mags for the Commando Mark 45. I just aquired one, completed disassembled it and gave is a good cleaning. Took it to the range, and it functioned without a misfire. I am in need of more mags. Price is not a problem, within reason

CALVINCHURCH
February 19, 2008

HAVE MARK .45 COMANDO FOR SELL 4 CLIPS VERY GOOD CONDITION IF INTRESTED E-MAIL ME AT uncleporkys@yahoo.com our you can call me 208-448-2876

mike
February 23, 2008

Anyone looking for magazines for the Mark 3 45 can purchase them from numrich gun parts. Just received 2 from them marked seymour products co. the same as the original I have been using. work perfectly. part # 598360B @ $19.80 ea. plus $6.95 shipping.

mike

phillip
February 23, 2008

any body selling a mark 3 or parts for a mark 3 please contact me

phillip
February 23, 2008

any body selling a mark 3 or parts for a mark 3 please contact me

phillip
February 23, 2008

any body selling a mark 3 or parts for a mark 3 please contact me

phillip
February 25, 2008

anybody selling a mark 3 or parts for a mark 3 contact me http://www.gqbabe45@yahoo.com

ted
February 25, 2008

I have a butt and forend for a 45 commando
nice walnut missing 1 swivel
postal money order only
email for pictures junkmanted@yahoo.com

ed
February 26, 2008

need mags for commando III

ed
February 26, 2008

need mags for commando III
bodygard37@yahoo.com

Mike
April 6, 2008

I have an excellent Mark 5 which I am keeping. Looking for a 9mm Mark 3 to purchase. Anyone wanting to sell one, in working condition or not please contact me.

Mike
April 6, 2008

I have an excellent Mark 5 which I am keeping. Looking for a 9mm Mark 3 to purchase. Anyone wanting to sell one, in working condition or not please contact me.

ted
April 6, 2008

theres a guy above stating he has a mk9 missing the wood dont bother he has nothing he just wants your money I filed postal fraud on him so I hope the people running this sit deletes his posting

Bruce
April 9, 2008

Today on Gunbroker.com there is a Commando Mark 45 made by Manchester Arms, Inc, Lenoir City, Tn. up for auction, bid# 96462079. Looks just like the Volunteer Arms model. Blue Book says they made .45cal. handguns. Anyone have any info on this one?

Bruce
April 9, 2008

Today on Gunbroker.com there is a Commando Mark 45 made by Manchester Arms, Inc, Lenoir City, Tn. up for auction, bid# 96462079. Looks just like the Volunteer Arms model. Blue Book says they made .45cal. handguns. Anyone have any info on this one?

larry
April 22, 2008

I just purchased a volunteer commando mark 3 45cal with two clips for $300.I’m looking for a wood vertical grip.I do know that m3 grease gun mags work.I used my dremel and ground a half moon in the clip catch hole.Please contact me if you have a wood grip or 30rd mags.

mike
April 27, 2008

Larry, don’t have a wood vertical, but do have a plastic vertical, plus a wood stock. The plastic has been painted brown, but can be removed easily with a good stripper. Both are for sale.

Mike

Hal
April 29, 2008

I just purchased a used Commando Mini-9. This of course is a 9mm made by Manchester Arms, Inc in Lenoir City, TN and has the patent # on it. Can anyone tell me anyting about it? Value ect or is the company still there and/or how old it is. Email me at Hal_t99@yahoo with subject commando. I live in Hawkins County area in TN. Tks

larry
May 5, 2008

Just bought a wood vertical grip for a thompson off of ebay.Going to make it fit my Mark 3.Thanks anyway Mike.

Larry Charnes
May 21, 2008

I need an ejector for my Commando. Any one know where to get one? Larry

Larry Charnes
May 21, 2008

I need an ejector for my Commando. Any one know where to get one? Larry

JOSE M
May 25, 2008

I RECENTLY GOT A COMMANDO MARK 9…VOLUNTEER ENTERPRISES, INC CAN ANYBODY GIVE ME INFORMATION ON HOW TO FIND MAGAZINES..EMAIL ME AT CHEECHXCEW@NETZERO.COM

star
August 18, 2008

I believe the Mark 9 uses sten mags.

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