Les Jones

Yeahh. But ya gotta admit it's one cute piece!

I hated to be so negative. I generally find something good to say about any gun I shoot. The one I shot jammed so much that I just couldn't enjoy it. To be fair, I should have tried a different brand of ammo to see if that made a difference.

What do you think of the "smaller" Kimber's? They seem to be the hot piece at all the gun shows I have been to...

I've shot a Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry. It's extremely accurate, and very controllable for such a compact .45. Kimbers are super nice.

i had problems with my p-22 jamming as well, but I switched to some better ammo and haven't had a problem since.

When I bought my P22 I was informed that I should use only the best ammo for it to reduce the chances of jamming, and so far I have had no problems. Honestly I don't know why I bought it except that I really loved the feel of it in my hand, and it was something that I could afford.

I have a P22 that I have put close to 10000 rnds through. Its very picky about its ammo. I've found that I got the best performance from Federal ammunition, the bulk pack of hollow points they carry at walmart is great. I've tried many kinds of ammo in it, it seems to be ok with the CCI Stinger (pricey though) and the CCI MiniMag. It also works well with the CCI Subsonic stuff. I tried out some of their shotshell loads in it, it wouldnt even cycle. It also doesnt shoot the remington "Gold Bullet" very well, but its purely accuracy problems. I have all new 44-a magazines for it, and feed problems are almost non-existant (1 in 500 or so). I have never seen a jam like the one you described, but depending on the ammo I have seen plenty of misfires (anywhere from 1 in 500 to 10 or 15 in 500). I was wondering if anyone had fired the Aguila SSS 60gr in a P22? Does it work? Well, thats about it.

I picked up a P22 recently because it just looked so neat. I also found it to be ammo sensitive, but go that straightened out pretty quickly. I primarily bought to use with .22 supressor I already had - it really works great witht he threaded barrel being very convenient. It is a lot of fun to shoot. The comment around the P22 not being a target gun is true, I use a Walther GSP for that, but it a pretty good plinker. I also use it for cheap training before I switch over to my P99QA in .40S&W. All in all a pretty fun gun. Plus you can dress it up with a red dot or laser sight if you like to play around with that sort of thing.

I just bought a P22 and am currently waiting my 10 day cool off period in california. I really like the look and feel of the gun. plus it only cost me $300 bucks so I thought that was a good deal. I originally wanted the PPK in stainless. that was my first choice. but I would have had to order it and it might have cost me close to $600 bucks. what do you guys know about the ppk and do you think I should have paid the extra money for it as opposed to the P22? and how do I go about ordering a silencer for it from the internet?

It depends on what you want the gun for. If it's for self-defense, I wouldn't depend on the P22. The PPK isn't a huge powerhouse, but it's an improvement. Have you looked at the SIG P232? It's a near-clone of the PPK and a great gun. I imagine it's a little cheaper than the PPK.

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To get a silencer you have to go to a Class III firearms dealer, pay the $200 tax, fill out the BATF paperwork (the dealer will walk you through it) and go through a background check.

What should I expect to pay for this gun? Gunbroker.com prices seem high. Maybe this gun has risen in price since it first came out. Thanks.

It seems to go for around $300 at the gun shows.

I picked up a Browning Buckmark for $259 today. I've shot both guns, and the Buckmark has a better trigger and will reliably feed more brands of ammo. The one I bought today has the hi-viz front sight.

As far as price, i gave $252 for mine in August. I'd recommend you really shop around. I called half a dozen gun stores, and most of them were asking quite alot. If you are in VA by chance, check out Virginia Arms in Manassas, thats where I picked mine up. I chose the p22 over the rest of the 22 market based on price and on looks.

Little report from my range visit today:
Gun: Walther P22
Ammo: 1 550 rnd Federal Bulk Pack HV Hollow Point
1 50 rnd CCI Stinger
Outcome: Stingers somewhat inaccurate, Federal spot on.
Malfunctions: 1 of the Stingers got hung up in the mag and rammed into the top of the chamber. Suspect dirty mag to blame. 1 or 2 misfires on the Federal, but 1 or 2 in 550 isnt bad.

great thanks for your help. I bought the P22 just for fun. I have a Glock 30 that I use for self-defense and also a Beretta 92SB compact which is the nicest handgun I have ever shot. I had no idea that getting a silencer would be so expensive. I have no need for one but I think it would be fun to have. after the $200 tax and the purchase of the silencer i would be paying more for the silencer then for them P22. is there any other cheaper less hassle way to get a silencer?

Hi Les -

When you say thet the P22 is "clearly not intended to be a target piece. The designer's choices - double-action trigger, three-dot sights, compact size - all point to a defensive weapon."

you miss a third catagory, which is a hunting weapon. I use a suppressed P22 to hunt blue grouse in the NW Rocky Mountains. It's a great gun to carry while you're shooting elk with a .270 or .308. If you're sitting on a stand or jump shooting elk, you don't want to make lots of noise when you happen across a small flock of grouse. A suppressed P22 is the *perfect* hunting weapon in this situation. Grouse are pretty easy to approach at close range and a suppressed .22 doesn't make enough noise to scare off the big game.

Richard: no legal way. I wouldn't suggest any illegal ways, since owning an unlicensed silencer is a federal offense.

is the p22 a very accurat gun? i am thinging about buying one mainly for plinking and target shooting.. and i like the looks..

I did some research and since I live in California it is nearly impossible to get a silencer and a carry permit. most states there is a class and a tax involved and your good to go. But in my state you have to get a class 3 license which invoves signitures and other stuff. Im only 22 and i dont think the sheriff in my county is going to give me permission to carry or have a silencer anytime soon!

I have been trying to buy one for a couple of weeks but the local shops are all waiting for shipments. They are going for $199 at a couple of shops and up to $256 at others. This is for the shorter barrel (3-1/2" I think)with the black slide. It was about $250 for one with a nickel slide. The models with the 5" barrel started out at $259. These prices are around Ogden, UT.

This may seem off topic, since I haven't shot, and don't own a P22 (though I really want one), but I'm not suprised that the bulk Federal .22Lr's seem to work well as a couple people have said. I had a Remington 597 .22 rifle and it absolutely hated Remington's own "Golden Bullet" bulk LR ammo, jamming once every 2 shots or so! However once I switched to the Federal 500 Rd bulk pack ammunition (which they also had readily available at Wal-Mart) I couldn't make the gun jam, no matter how I fired it. On close examination, I think the Golden Bullet has this waxy coating all over, which makes it sticky in the chamber, going in and being extracted, while the Federal rounds seem as if they're actually slightly smaller in diameter than the Remington, and have no wax on the casing itself - it drops right into the chamber on my rifle. Smooth ammo makes for smooth cycling, I guess.

Recently fired my P22 at an indoor range. Sorry some people have experienced problems with theirs. I experienced no problems, and shot where I aimed it. Used Remington ammo. Based on prior experience of carrying firearms for more than 35 years on duty, I would not hesitate in using my P22 as a concealed carry weapon if I thought I needed it. I have over the years fired other handguns that did have problems, plus some of my own. But having carried for duty, and worked as a range coach, I recommend somebody looking at buying a Walther P22, buy it if you like it.Don't pay a lot of attention to what everybody says. You either like it or you don't. Take it out and shoot it, and have some fun.

I recently purchased a P22 and I love it. Clever design, well made, and I have never had so much fun shooting this thing. Plus, the price was $209 here in Ohio for the 3.4" bbl. The only negative experience so far has been with Federal Classic HV ammo -- I had 3 failures to fire in one brick of 100 rds. All of the rims were well dented from the firing pin, all 3 rounds fired after inspection and reloading, and no problems since then. With CCI MiniMag and Winchester Wildcat ammo, the gun has been flawless for the last 400 rounds or so. I've decided that this was probably just an isolated problem with that particular brick of Federal Classic ammo, but I haven't shot any since then.

All in all, I would say that if the gun feels good in your hand, then I think you will really like it.

I just purchased a P22 and I'm still waiting for the 10 day cooling off period to end. Thanks for the various posts on the subject of which ammo works well with the P22. I have Federal ammo bulk on hand so I can't wait to hit the range and get to plinking!

I had trouble with the remington 22LR bulk pack also. It didn't jam often once every 40 or so. I did have a few duds that after being put back into the chamber went off the second time. why is that?

i would like to ask if i have a compensated walther p22 can i use my supressor with it?

Richard, i would think you would be able to use your supressor because the compensator is farther down on the barrel then the adapter has to be. So the silencer can still be attached, but the supressor AND compensator will damage the velocity of the bullet, very much so, i would think.

I own a target p22 and am researching the perfect accesories for it. I love it based on it's look and feel, as i am not a big man. But i have experienced while shooting it jams much like the ones written by the reviewer. A bullet will get logged into the barrel and i use a spare case to empty it out. This can be explained by the perpetual use of the cheapest ammo at he store. One problem with this jam i find is that when it sadly does occur it can be hard to get the weapon to de-cock and again admit another round. I always find away to unlock my weapon into the world of working firearms but seem to always forget the exact way i went about doing this... has anyone else had any of the same problems?
On last thing, i watched the short video of the silenced p22 and good lord! that baby is silent. A 22 may not be the perfect choice for a self defense weapon, but if you are trying to be silent about somehting this pistol is the way to go. I wish so much i could have a supressor to call my own but it would be just so painful to have to endure paying all that tax money, i was wondering if someone could answer some questions about the supressor and it's laws for me.
1. once you pay the $200 tax, do you have to pay then an anual tax each year?
2. does this tax include all supressors for all the weapons you own or just this own silencer?
3. Is there any possibly way to get around this law, like buying an adapter adn then a make it yourself silencer or soemthing, anythign to get this silencer without paying that horrible tax?

Thank you

thanks! for sharing the info's

i've had a walther p22 for about 2 months now and love it! i've read through these comments only to hear that the federal bulk pack of 22's shoot the best out of the beautiful handgun! the funny thing is that i have had many problems with the federals! my pistol tends to shoot the remington "gold bullet" 22's in the bulk pack superbly. i also agree that it is not the most accurate handgun, but what do you expect with its short barrel? my experiance with this gun has been extremly awesome! it seems to shoot straight enough to hit a running rabbit, and in my opinion it is a perfect concealed defense gun! its not the power, it is if you can shoot the gun well! this pistol (walther p22) is a magnificent tool!

yeah I would suggest this gun to anyone who likes to plick, hunt small game, and all around target shoot. I am also confindent enough that the P22 is an excellenct choice for a self defense weapon.

My brother and I recently recieved a Walther P22 target pistol for Christmas, and found it to be an extremely fun piece. Using Federal .22lr (from Wal-Mart) we shot both guns over 100 times with no misfires, jams, or foul-ups of any kind. Also the pistol proved to be very accurate with the 5" barrel, and the three dot sighting system proved a quick easy way to get lined on the target. Upon cleaning the gun after 100+ shots, there was little to no powder residue in the chamber, thanks to good engineering on walther's part. The ambidextrious clip release and safety were also convenient and added to the enjoyment of the firearm. So far I am impressed not only by the design of the gun but the looks and amount of enjoyment it supplies while shooting. I look forward to shooting this pistol for a long time to come and recommend it to anyone who just wants a reliable and fun piece.

The longer barrel is not a compensator, it's a barrel weight with slots in it, which make it look like a compensator. Putting a suppressor on the extended version is even better than with the sharter barrel, it's longer, for more accuracy/stability, and will be quieter when shooting.

I have been thinking about buying a walther p22 and i have looked at many, i think i will buy one this week, i was wondering if there was any little tricks to making sure it worked good all the time. Wish me luck on my new gun!!!

I came upon this site while looking for a contact for walther online. I bought my p22 for $229 back in Oct 03. I happen to live in Northern California BTW. The P22 I bought is nice to look at but very unreliable. It jams a lot. Actually i never had a gun jam as much as this gun. I've cleaned it, cleaned it, changed ammo brands several times, and still has feed problems/failure to chamber next round after spent round is ejected. I will be sending the gun back to walther for repair. I heard mostly good reports but mine seems very poor. Also the gun came new in the box with poor sighting. It would shoot low right every time no matter what ammo from a fixed bench. I had to change the front sight and adjust the rear to the left quite far before I got a straight shooter. I own other handguns and WILL NOT be buying another walther. I knew it would never match my glock or other guns I have but come on, for the money I think it should at least fire through a complete magazine without a failure. Do yourself a favor and buy a buckmark, at least it will work..

You need the right type of ammunition for your pistol. It's a pretty damn high quality german pistol with very tight tolerances. I have found that CCI works great, maybe one jam in 500 or so rounds, and that's because the .22 is a very dirty round, and they gum up especially in semi auto pistols.

Try all different types of ammo, federal included. I have tried federal, and literally every shot jammed.

I think one of the major problems with the P22 is the extractor isn't "sharp" enough to dig into the cartridge to eject it effectively. I am willing to bet someone makes aftermarket ejectors for it, or a gunsmith could even modify yours possibly.

Also, there is a roll pin next to the safety switch that has a tendency to come out. I'm figuring out a way to get it to stick in, but until then, I can just not use the safety, or push the pin back in. It really doesn't fall out, but it works loose, and makes the safety stick. Maybe Cyanocrylic (superglue) can fix this.

Other than that, the pistol is incredible. I can hit pop cans reliably at 25 yards while standing! It's truly and accurate pistol, it's just that it's so short, so any little movement will cause the pistol to shoot off target, giving the illusion that it's "inaccurate" when in reality, you can bench it and it'll be just as accurate as many centerfire large caliber pistols.

It's got a crisp report and cycle. It's a very "sweet piece" as I like to call it. A man from the NRA who was on the range asked me if I was shooting a 9mm, so I think that speaks for itself.

If you're going for long shots, I would recommend getting the longer version, as the added length is more than enough for a bunch more stability.

Anyone who wants to buy one, go for it. It's the most fun pistol I have ever shot in my life, and cheapest! You will not be disappointed, unless you are totally inept when it comes to firearm maintenance and care. =)

I'm only 16, but I gave my father the cash to buy one (only 130 bucks I believe) and I love the thing. Next I'm either going to buy a Walther P99, and something along the lines of a Glock 17)

Howdy,
I own a P22 (3.5") and P99 (9mm). I love my Walthers! In the P22, I have had problems with misfires, stovepipes, and jams, but only with cheap and/or lead ammo. I now only use CCI Minimag or Velocitor rounds. The P22 seems to like a hot, copper jacketed round. I've had no problems since this change.

However, I believe I have a barrel problem. It looks as if the rifling has smoothed out (along the top half of the barrel), and that the barrel is discolored. I think I may have put too many rounds through it at once and overheated it. Has anyone else had seen this? I've read on a couple of other sites (a while ago) of some barrel issues, but now I can't find the articles.

Thanks.

I would check out a new barrel from www.ebay.com

They are fairly cheap (under 50$) I believe, and it's a dropin fit.

disculpen el idioma. hace algun tiempo adquiri una walther p22. y he comprovado que tiene algun problema con la municion que se utilice. yo no he tenido problemas con balas de baja velocidad como cci std velocity, cci competition, geco, winchester t22, ni con algunas balas de alta velocidad com winchester super X, cci minimag, pero obtuve problemas con winchester Xpert hollow point y con remington de hiper alta velocidad, pero los problemas de municion los he resuelto lubricando la municion antes de ser usada, con aceite o con cera ya que a mi entender el problema radica en que la capsula se expande y se pega a las paredes de la recamara. (prueben con WD40) saludos desde uruguay!!

Since my last post (me being the guy that recieved a p22 for christmas) I have fired about 300 more rounds of federal ammunition through my pistol, making the overall total of rounds fired a little over 500, and i am very happy to say i still have not experienced any jams, misfires or any other mishaps as of yet, and i must say, i can't remember when the last time i had so much fun shooting.

I just purchased a Walther P-22. After having read this website, I thought twice about my decision but I am happy to say that I am impressed with the Walther. I put over 100 rounds through it shooting quickly yesterday and was impressed with its reliability. Then just for fun after the range, I sat in my living room at home and shot Aguila Colibris at a phone book with a target on it.

The pistol was very accurate with the Colibris however as should be expected, because they do not contain gunpowder, they do not allow the P22 to function in a semi-automatic mode.

Just a note, I am not a novice, I did not get the pistol because it matched anything or was cute. I do combat shooting so I am accustomed to having a high quality trigger pull, accurate weapon with good balance. If it came down to a duel or just a choice between pistols for personal defense, I would drop my sig p226, my tricked out 1911, my customized glock or possibly (but probably not) my cz-75 and choose the p-22.

Right now, I don't think I will have anything done to the trigger but I will be having the feeding ramp polished by my gunsmith to ward off any potential problems with loading.

I am 6'6" tall. I am a big guy with very big hands and I have no problem with the size of the grips at all.

Oh, one last thing, I would take this blogger with a grain of salt, a .22 cal is both accurate and extremely deadly - a perfect combination. Israeli Mossad as well as the CIA and a number of other secret services have been very successful with this caliber in offensive weapons. Its is all about how able you are with the weapon you choose. One police expert was quoted anonomously after the big bank robbery shoot out in LA in which the robber were equipped with converted AKs and body armor that what wasn't needed was police with M-16s in full auto as the body armor would have stopped the .223 round, what was needed was one cop who could shoot with a ruger 10-22 rifle (.22 cal) taking head shots one at a time with a.

hello, I need buy a Remington ammo, wich Remington ammo do you me recomend for my P22 thanks.

i have been hearing so many bad things about the Walther P22 on other website.Especially about jamming problems,do you really recomened this gun?Because i really want it it is an awesome looking gun looks very fun to shoot,but i am a little sceptical because it is a $300 gun and all i hear is jamming probelms and not to say about the accuracy that's another issue,Please let me know what you think should i buy or not?THANKS

oscar: buy a P22 with serial N xxxxxx and a A in the magazzines, is the recomendation of walther in the site

..."All P22 from serial no. "N xxxxxx" were modified (with new magazines, among other things).

Best regards,
Carl Walther GmbH "...

this serial works OK, my P22 serial "G" works very good.
bye

Hi LUIS B. and Thanks for the info could you give me the website you found this info so i can check it out,THANNKS

As far as accuracy is concerned I have had no problems with the p22, out of box the rear sight needed slight adjustment to the right side, however since the adjustment my brother and I have been able to hit empty 20 and 12 gauge shotgun shells standing upright and aligned from left to right shooting range style. Out of 10 clip loads we both averaged between 6-8 hits out of 10 aiming at something less than an inch wide. I also must take this chance to again brag on how clean the p22 seems to be after shooting well over 100 rounds and running a cleaning patch through the bore their was VERY little residue on the patch., also if you have problems with jams and other mishaps you have to remember that the .22 is a very dirty bullet, copper shavings are abundant when shooting a .22 caliber gun. The p22 is remarkable about ridding of most of the debris during regular function. The gun is not without fault but is still very reliable. If price is a problem, I recently went to a Gun Show in Mobile, AL and there was a p22 for $215.

I ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCED SEVERAL PROBLEMS WITH THE P22 . NOT ONLY WILL IT NOT COMPLETELY CYCLE WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT LOADS ,IT ALSO WONT ALWAYS LOAD THE NEXT ROUND . JUST RECENTLY THE SAFETY STARTED DROPPING ON IT OWN ON THE RETURN CYCLE . IT SEAMS LIKE THE SAFETY ROLL BAR IS CATCHING ON THE HAMMER . I HAVE WRITING WALTHER USA BUT NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE TO ANY OF MY PROBLEMS. THE GUN IS ACCURATE BUT VERY UNRELIABLE. I'M HOPING THAT WALTHER WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM FOR ME . IT SEEMS TO BE A MIXTURE OF THE RECOIL SPRING AND THE FIRING PIN MECHANISM . I DID FIND A SCREW LOOSE ON THE GUN , ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE GUN WITH SLIDE REMOVED NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE BARREL A PHILLIPS HEAD SCREW WORKED ITS WAY LOOSE . I RETIGHTENED IT WITH NO SUCCESS TO THE MALFUNCTION FIXTURE.I WAS HOPING SOMEONE ELSE WAS EXPERIENCING SIMILAR SAFETY LEVER PROBLEMS. I DIDNT NOTICE IT AT FIRST I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS MY THUMB RUBBING , BUT NO WAY I WOULD OF DEFINATELY FELT THAT. HELP !!!!!!!!

I have a L prefix in my serial number and A's following the serial on my mags.

I am using Federal Lightning in my P22 and have not had any problems with it thus far. I will probably be switching from federal to Aguila as I am really impressed with the overall quality of the Aguila amunition (Aguila Super Maximum hyper velocity and Aguila SSS). I haven't tried the Aguila SSS yet but the Aguila Super Maximum is a good choice as the recoil spring is too tight when it comes from the factory and walther failed to adequately fininshing all of the parts on the P22 which causes additional friction. (I have found spots on my slide even though I am not having problems where the slide is rubbing against the frame almost certainly making it more difficult for a standard velocity or subsonic round to adequately cycle.) This is the likely cause of some of the jamming that some have reported.

As far as finishing goes, I am not impressed with Walther, the gun is flawless on the outside but take off the barrel nut and what do you find? a barrel that looks like the tip was cut poorly with a hacksaw - no sanding or polish at all. Also, the feeding ramp is in serious need of a polishing to get around the pickieness about ammo brand. Additionally, the grooves on the slide need polished as do the grooves on the frame that connect to the slide. Lastly, they need to look in to a spring that is not specifically made with the expectation that shooters will be using hot 22 ammo. Never thought I would say this but it needs a slightly weaker spring (this does happen after a couple hundred rounds).

700rds and going strong with no problems.

Charles

Just so you all know, at least two of Walther's importers (Walther America and Earl's Repair Service, Inc.)officially recomend CCI MiniMags for use in the P22 although I haven't tried them they are supposed to function flawlessly.

WELL WALTHER CONTACTED ME BACK TODAY . THEY WANT ME TO SEND THEM BACK THE GUN SO THAT THEY CAN FIX IT . THEY ARE SENDING ME A CALL TAG TO SHIP IT BACK WITH . THEY SAID IT NEEDS SOME REFINEMENT DONE TO IT SUCH AS MAYBE POLISHING THE FEED RAMP, TUNING THE RECOIL SPRING DOWN , AND MODIFING THE MAGAZINES. MY GUNS SERIAL # STARTS WITH AN (L) AND MY MAGAZINE HAVE AN A ON THEM . I GUESS ILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS

I have just took a dilivery of a new Walther P22. It is a great gun to shoot and also small enough so it wont intimidate the shooter but designed well enough to intimidate who ever its pointed at. It is very fun at the gun range, which is where its sopposed to be. For a 22 caliber its is fun to shoot at targers but does not have enough stoping power for an attacker. The problems everyone seems to post is that its picky with its ammo. That is very true. The Walther P22 is very, very picky when it comes to ammunition. Some report problems with Federal, some with CCI and so on. I personaly had many problems with Federal ammo. It would jam, misfire, fail to even fire, and even fail to eject the empty shell. I bought some CCI ammo and havent seen a problem yet. It fires perfectly. So I guess it depends on the gun and what ammo it likes. Also beware that a 22 cal handgun needs its cleaning. So invest in a good cleaning kit with Hoppes cleaning formula. Other than that for the price this gun is a great buy.

the problems with P22 are in Germany P22 or USA P22 manufacture???

HOW DO I KNOW WHICH P22 IS MADE IN GERMANY AND USA? ALSO IS IT TRUE THAT THE GERMAN ONE IS BETTER THAN THE ONE MADE HERE IN THE US?THANKS

What kind of ammo do u guys recommend when using the suppresor on the P22?THANKS

CCI ammo worked well for me. Federal didnt. but some people have said that it works well with Federal. So I guess its up to the gun. My best advice is to try 1 of each brand ammo and see what happens, since 22 cal ammo is cheep. As which model is better, American or German I dont know. I think the German model would honestly be the best. American models are made by/licensed to S&W. There have been problems with this American model. Not with the gun but more with the magazine lips. This has been corrected.

I have had a P22 for almost a year. Aside from the safety mysteriously "walking" into the "on" position, this little pistol's performance is acceptable for the $199 I paid for it. It's also nice to have fully ambidextrous controls (I'm left handed).

However, Walther was not only no help when it came to fixing the safety issue, but they wanted personal information that they had no need for or right to (my date of birth, for example) to register the warranty.

Since they won't stand behind their product, I won't be giving them any more of my money. I have a Ruger MKII that shoots better and Ruger will stand behind their product, no questions asked.

Does anybody have any good info on how to use the sd22 suppressor the best way?do you add water to make it more silent? i now that SUBSONIC ammo is good but wahat kind?

WELL I RECEIVED A CALL TAG AND I SHIPPED IT BACK TO SMITH AND WESSON. NO COST TO ME WHAT SO EVER YET . THEY ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE PROBLEMS MY NAME ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER , NOTHING ELSE. THEY PAID FOR THE SHIPPING TOO. I SENT BACK THE GUN WITH THE 5 INCH BARREL AND BOTH MAGAZINES IN THE CASE. I COMPLAINED ABOUT THE BAD CYCLING AND THE SAFETY SELF ACTIVATION .

I bought my P22 several year ago. Its serial number starts with B and there is no letter on the serial of the mag. Is this one of the earliest ones made? I experienced some jamming. The nose of the bullet stuck at the bottom edge of the barrel at the top of the feed ramp. I found flat tipped bullets to be most problematic. On the whole however, the gun works fine. I did send it back - to Smith and Wesson who services Walther in usa - and they returned it saying it functions normally. I'm wondering if there are better magazines now I should get that stack the rounds nicer. Also, I was wondering if Walther has plans to discontinue the gun. It's tendency to jam, and for those wondering - it will jam - is a turn off, however well it functions otherwise.

The problem people are having with the shells not feeding or not loading right is due to the old clip. If you look on the number on the side of the clip (7 numbers) etc 256-87-98-A . The clips with the A after the number are the new style and seem to work fine with all ammo except of coarse the low grain such as the ratt shot and colibri target rounds. If you have clips with out the A at the end of the number that's your problem.And for the AMMO try HIGH VELOCITY AMMO like CCI stinger,CCI mini mag,CCI Velocitor,Eley Quik-Shok,Pleasew e-mail me back to see if your problems stop,GOOD LUCK!!!

I just got a used P22, serial number starts with an "A" and there is no "A" on the magazine. I have shot about 300 rounds out of it so far and I have only had one full clip of ten rounds shoot flawlessly so far. Almost every round I shoot, there is no jam or misfire, but the next round WILL NOT feed. One thing I did notice on this gun, if you remove the clip,pull the slide back, and slowly control the slide and while it returns, you will notice that the hammer actually catches on the 'roll' safety mechanism. this is the exact same spot that the slide gets stuck when it stops feeding a new bullet. If this does not happen with your P22 let me know. I will be getting a new mag I am hoping the new mag will allow the bullet to feed easier eliminating the problem. And I am sure a good polishing on the feed ramp will help with many of the ammo problems. I am used Federal HP and some CCI Blazers and I actually had fewer jams with the full lead blazers. However after 100-150 rounds there is enough fowling with lead round for a good cleaning.

I own a walther p22 with the combo short and long barrel. I have had problems with jams,failure to load but with only one of my magazines. The frame starts with L and both magazines end in A. The magazine that is problematic has peculiar problems no one has mentioned. It is difficult to insert, the trigger must be pulled, released and pulled again before the hammer will move, also the magazine fails to come out (must be pulled out) when the release is depressed. The other magazine has no problems with either feeding or jamming or any other problems mentioned. I did find a customer service number and I will call them soon. 1.800.372.6454 This web site mentions jamming issues and the magazine ending in 44-a must be replaced. Other than the one bad magazine the gun shoots very nicely and is an excellent choice for plinking and target shooting. I would like to get a surpessor but in Massachusetts the gun laws are tough and I doubt it is possible. http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/handguns/santa.htm

I love my P22 it shoots great. One problem I have with it are its front sights. I use a fobus holster and when I pull the gun out, the front sight wants to come out too. I dont know if I am doing something wrong when I draw or what. I thought I might try super glue but I shouldn't have to do that. If anyone has info on this problem please let me know.

Hi:

I'm just trying out a P22 for a possible purchase. So, as a recap for people considering buying this gun I should point out the following:

1-Be sure to get the mags with serial xxx xx xx a
2-Use quality ammo. CCI Stinger, Remington/Winchester Thunderbolt, CCI MiniMag (come on, in my country 100 rounds of CCI MiniMag cost me, more or less $6.50. I can't even dream of getting 500 rounds of .22 for less than $10 bucks).
3-It's better to consider it as a "fun" gun rather than a self-defense "stopper" weapon. Somewhere I read the smallest caliber for defense should be .40. Having talked to a police officer he told of people trying to blow their head with a 9mm only to have the bullet slide over the skull, and come out at some other point. Of course that there is the issue of weapon handling and accuracy and where to shoot, but I'm a regular civilian, starting to handle weapons roughly 2 months ago.
4-It has one of the better looks I've seen for a .22, as well as a nice body and sturdy feel.
5.Consider polishing the ramp, and in the post in spanish, he says he solved most of the feeding problems simply lubing the ammo with WD40 (a little bit).
6-IMPORTANT: The screws that hold together the sideplates of the gun tend to come loose not only by firing, but by simply working the slide with your hands. In some other website a guy recommended superglueing these screws, which I did, and after firing nearly 250 rounds, there was no sign they were comming off. You have to remove the grip to access one of the screws.
7-Clean the gun after 100-150 rounds fired.
8-I believe the problem with ammo not being fed is due to the slide not going all the way back after firing...Iwould say this is ammo related.

As you can see, I've done my homework in trying to inform myself as much as I can about this gun. I've reserched the internet for anything I can find about this gun and still, despite every complaint I've read, I'm considering to buy it. All in all, I believe this is an extremely nice weapon, and at some point anyone owning one will experience some sort of problem.

As of my experience, I've had my share of feeding problems: empty shell not being ejected and jamming, next shot won't load, and shots being jammed as they are fed into the chamber but anyway, I've found a fun gun to shoot witha great look and CHEAP ("gunwise" and "ammowise"). Being a newbie in this I was impressed I could get a less than 4.5" group of 8 shots, probably being fired in around 2 seconds at an aproximate distance of 20-22 feet.

I'm about to pay $200 for this gun (2nd hand) with only one mag, two sights, two backstraps and without the key for the trigger lock, and I think I'm getting enough for the 200 bucks. Where I live, it would cost me $400 new.

We should consider putting together a FAQ for this gun...hhhmmm I think I'll set my mind on it...

Good shooting everyone

WELL I GOT MY GUN BACK FROM S&W TODAY . ACCORDING TO THE PAPER WORK ALL THEY DID IS FIX THE SAFETY PROBLEM AND TEST FIRE THE GUN WITH HIGH VELOCITY AMMO . ILL TAKE IT OUT TONIGHT AND TEST IT FOR MY SELF . THEY DID NOT CHANGE THE MAGAZINES OR ALTER THEM . THEY REALLY DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO THE GUN OTHER THAN TIGHTEN UP THE SAFETY LEVER. NO POLISHING ANYWHERE....

I found a new P22 at a local gun show the Saturday after Christmas for $245 (short barrel). I live in California, and so I had to deal with the 10-day waiting period. Actually, due to the holiday weekend and everything, I ended up with more like a 13 day wait, and I picked it up on the 14th day, again a Saturday. I didn't have a chance to head to the range to try it out for about a week, so a friend of mine and I both partially disassembled it (just to see exactly how it functioned). Well when my friend reassembled it, he only tightened the barrel nut finger-tight. When we went down to the range, I right away started having feeding problems. My gun starts with L on its serial number, and the mags both end in A. I was first using Federal, then PMC and CCI. It was quite a chilly day at the range, and the CCI MiniMags warmed my hands nicely when fired, if only for a brief moment. Anyway, I was having a lot of feeding and extracting problems. About 3 times per mag, I would get a bullet that didn't feed up the ramp properly or into the barrel properly or something. I've heard from people that the P22 is picky about its ammo, so I tried some brass-plated Remington ammo (this is the stuff) and I got about one mis-feed in 2 mags or so, a very significant improvement. The problems were not completely gone, and it was still a bit of a mystery. The next day, I was working on trying to get to the bottom of the problem, and was cycling unspent CCI rounds through the action from the magazine, with about the same rate of 3 per mag not feeding properly. At one point I just happened to notice the loose barrel nut, and realised that it allowed the entire barrel to move back and forth as much as 0.100", which of course will understandably cause any of a variety of problems in any gun, especially feeding and extracting. After tightening the barrel nut with the included wrench (the manual chooses to call it a spanner), I performed the same test again, cycling 100 rounds (without firing) of the same CCI ammo I had had problems with at the range, and I had ZERO misfeeds this time, and once had a failed extraction. I have yet to fire it again, but I am quite confident I will have a better experience.

Noah:

Now that you have taken apart the gun, be warned about the screw that comes loose at the right hand side of it. Remove the the slide and check it, it's just above and to the back of the trigger lock. If this is the case, try superglueing the screw by applying less than a drop of superglue between the screw head and the sideplate (having removed any possible presence of lubricant). There is another screw that may come loose also but you have to remove the grip. It happened to me, and after doing this and firing aproximately 500-550 rounds there is no sign of it coming loose again, even after cleaning it with those nuclear waste solvents.

Hope everything else goes all right.

PS.: I read also that the barrel nut may come loose after firing some rounds, but hasn't happened to me though.

I'd sooner try some good loctite on those threads, but I have not yet checked that out. I put probably 150 rounds through that day at the range before I noticed (at home) that the barrel nut was loose. At the range I shot two flavors of Federal, one of PMC, and then CCI Singers and CCI MiniMags. All 5 of those types gave me about the same rate of mis-feeds, but clearly that's due to the barrel nut. Oddly enough, the Remington brass-jacketed gave me much fewer problems (still with the loose barrel nut). Go figure. Anyway, later at home I was trying to find the problem, and I was cycling ammo through (live CCI MiniMags, which I had problems with at the range, without firing) and still getting the same rate of misfeed. Somewhere in there I noticed the loose barrel nut. I retightened it by hand, and just worked the slide back and forth maybe 10 times with no ammo cycling, and checked the nut again. The slide action was enough to loosen it again. Retightened with the "spanner" included, and performed the same slide test, and the nut was still tight. Then performed the same test as earlier, feeding the CCI MiniMags through the action, and I had ZERO misfeeds out of 100 rounds. I work 55 hours a week, and commute another 20 hours a week, so I really only have Sunday afternoon after church to go to the range and try it out, and lately I've been plagued by unfavorable weather. I'm convinced I've got my feeding problems beat, but I'll see next time I shoot.

I had major jamming problems with my p22. I tried all kinds of different brands of ammo. Stingers worked, but were expensive. After much trial and error I have found that Peters High Velocity (on sale $12.90 for 500) perform impeccably. Not a jam or misfire in literally thousands of rounds were with some ammo I was getting jams and misfires with just about every clip.
Rich

" I can hit pop cans reliably at 25 yards while standing!"

Yep, same experience here. I took my new pistol and loaded my pocket from the 550-round value pack and took it out to get it zeroed. Previously I had put 50 rounds of some pretty high quality stuff in it(don't remember what kind) and it shot perfectly. Not quite so with the 550-round value pack, it didn't seem to shoot quite as perfect, a few times the first round would not chamber, and I think I know why, the ejector seems to have some burrs on it that really "slow" the slide down when it is returning to chamber a new round. I can "feel" a lot of resistance in this part of the stroke, and I can feel quite a few burrs on it. I am filing it down a little to make it "smooth" and to see if that helps.

Overall I am happy, like the guy above said, I can hit soda cans at 25 yards without much trouble. This is NOT a double action pistol, it is DA/SA, double action the first shot IF you choose to decock it, but single action otherwise. To make a .22 weapon that doesn't have any problems jamming is pretty idealistic, given the limitations of the round, but as well as the higher velocity stuff works, with a little polishing I should get the same performance with lower velocity stuff.

i purchased a p22 and have tried to run the 10 dollar walmart 550 round box ammo through it, it does go. the cci stingers, and cci verlocisers(spelling) ran through it fine, no problems, no hang ups, and thats running 500 rounds of stingers at one time. far as accuracy goes, i found the cci to be better then everything else i put through it. now cci is all i buy for ammo. and the movie up there is good, i never heard a silenced anything. im looking into purchasing a walther silencer. -two thumbs up on the pistol-

Just Got a used P22 for $212 out the dooor. I will let you know how my testing goes. I am a law enforcement officer. I carry a Glock 40 cal. for my duty weapon. I also have a Sig Sauer 40 cal. I fired a Beretta 9 mm in the Army. Guess what? They all have stove piped. They all have jambed, and miss fired. Jams usually magazine problems or improper grip. Stove pipes improper grip or weapon alignment with your hand. Slide guns work on recoil. Miss fires, usually bad ammo. There is always a few bad rounds. Happy shooting and I hope I did not get a lemon. I will let you know. Thanks for all the info on the P22.

What do you use to clean an aluminum silencer ?

P22 serial # starts w/N. mag end with an A. Shot close to 2000 rounds +/- some mini mags, velocitor stuff. Yes, I have experienced some misfires and a couple of jams. Solutions - check the barrel nut periodically (after 150-200 rounds) or if starting to misfire. Place a drop of oil on slide rails also periodically. Accuracy --> you bet! I like the feel of the gun and use for practice for combat shooting. Shoot at 7 yards, paper plate is not a problem and the group, depending on how fast you shoot and how many rounds you send down range can be less than 2-3 inches consistently. I'll keep mine...oh by the way, DOJ for California has taken the P22 off the list for guns to purchase....Seems there's the thought that the threaded barrel can put the weapon in the assault weapon class and DOJ missed it. Probably pending some form of registration for those already owning (but that's just a guess)

This is a great gun. Thanks to everyone for all the info, which helped me decide to get this gun. I've put in about 1500 rounds on it so far and things have really smoothed out. Like most other people I have been very successful with some ammo and not with others. What works well for me is federal and remington high velocity. I've had problems with other brands, but with these two I get almost perfect reliablity. Oh and I got mine for 219 new in wisconsin. You can put me in the happy customer list.

I get my P22 at gunshow few months. here is wrost one you never see before. I will NOT FIRE right out the box as brand new. send back to walther and just got it back yesterday. not sure I will buying other walther for few years.

I have found the p-22 works best with CCI ammo its a really neat gut to plink around with i am looking for a suppresor for it i just have to fin one .

Great Gun. Wife loved it. Accurate. Fired about 500 rounds. Remington brass, and CCI. Worked great had a fun day with the wife. One misfead. What gun doesn't?

Yep dang California again. Purchased a P22 little over two weeks ago at show. Wouldnt you know they took it off the list that next week during my 10 day cool-off. The FFL informed me that they could wait it out a couple weeks and let me know if it was going to get put back on the list. Anyone know about how that is going? I just love this state lol. Thanks for all the info by the way this was a great source of help to me in my decision. I only hope I can put it to good use.

I have a P22 and I love it so far. I have only put about 200 rounds through it but it did like to jam up with the CCI Stingers. It seemed to like the federals the best. I am looking to get a laser for it, for hunting purposes. So far the only one I have been able too find has the flashlight attachment also, which I dont realy need. Does anyone have just the laser one or know where I can get one.

Hi Folks,

Just tried my new 5" P22 at the range for the first time, 25 yards. Bought it last weekend. I was EXTREMELY impressed by this gun! I put a variety of Hi Vel 22 LR thru it including Winchester HP and solid 40gr, Rem Golden Bullet HP, CCI Blazer and spme Federals. A total of about 600+ rounds in one sitting! I had ZERO problems with feeding, only problem was that 1 Rem round was a dud - it was wacked nicely on the rim but didn't fire. It is also an extremely accurate little piece, got the best groups at 25 yds with WW stuff but all shot well - widest group was with Federals. The Federals and Blazers were not copper-colored bullets, just plain lead. Popping soup cans was simple, sights are very good. The only thing I found was that after the session the barrel nut had worked loose a bit - I disassembled the gun and tightened it with the wrench. I was surprised that even though it had worked loose, there were NO feeding problems! Probably have to crank down on the nut or just check it after every few hundred rounds or so. Could put a dab of blue or green loktite on it I suppose.

Anyway this is a VERY fine pistol with marvelous accuracy and quality. I highly recommend it. Its probably also a good idea to get some spare parts, worm screws, sight blades, etc.

I just purchased a P22T (after recieving all of the regulatory grease required by the rediculous Canadian firearms laws) and have tried a couple of different types of ammo. I got some discount CCI that was verrry waxy and had some feeding problems to start, and 2 duds (guys with Ruger MkII's having the same dud ratio with this batch of ammo). I ended up having to remove the wax by hand and then charge the magazine. No more feed problems. Waste of time with the wax, so I got some Winchester Super X hollow points from Walmart. 200 rounds, no feed problems, no eject problems. I tried some midpriced Federal ammo and not a problem. The P22 is accurate (2.5" groups @ 20 metres) until the barrel nut comes loose. Strange setup with that barrel nut and all...I will try the loktite solution to help remedy the problem.
I am not sure about the pistols available in the US (made by S&W I suspect) but mine is made in Germany and, the loose barrel nut notwithstanding, I am very happy with my P22. I think the key to the feed problems is using decent grade ammo. The box of 500 Win. SuperX cost me $13.00 Canadian (I think it is nearly free if you convert it to US dollars!) and it works very well. Overall, I am very pleased with this little pistol.

I have just recently bought my p22 nickle for 250 shipped. for the price, i think this is a great gun. for those who say a .22 cant be a good defensive weapon. that is bs, i have been told by many that a 22 will most likely kill more than a 9mm because of the way the bullet enters the body.no matter how small the caliber, a gun will always be intimidating. I'll let you guys know how I like when i start shooting it at the range.best looking .22 imo.

Keep in mind that the CCI stinger is a fewer grain bullet than the regular high velocity CCI mini mag- this means the the casing is actually going to be quite a bit longer than the typical .22lr casing so a small pistol like the P22 will naturally have problems ejecting the larger cartridge. I had this problem with my Ruger 10-22 rifle. Just my .02.

-Future P22 owner doing his research

Where could i get a silencer for this gun? please e-mail me a website

My e-mail is hi_own2@yahoo.com

Well I just bought my 5" p22 and got it the same day here in Colorado. Actually only like an hour or so. I thought there was still a 72 hour waiting period here but I guess that changed. The only ammo available at the time was Winchester Super X h/p so I went ahead and bought 500 rds. I didn't have much time or light left by the time I got to test it so I just loaded up the two clips that came with once. I couldn't even really see a target to aim at so I just cycled it though as fast as I could.

First clip all ten fired flawlessly. Second clip, flawless. All firing as fast as I could pull the trigger. It's got my vote!

One problem though: the foremost screw in the stabilizer of the extension was stripped from the factory. I will have to go get it drilled out, since I don't want to loose the gun for more than a few days. Only $25. I also highly recommend going and buying a 3mm hex key- the one that came with mine still has some free play in the good screw so I worry about that. The 3mm fits perfectly.

I just got my P-22 not long ago and of course, just like any 22 semi-auto, it is ammo sensitive.
It worked pretty well with some CCI and Federal solids. I tried the Remington Subsonic hollow points and could not get off 2 or 3 shots without a malfunction. Of course to be sub-sonic they are equally underpowered which probably explains it.
The CCI Stingers worked flawlessly. I understand that with some P-22's there was a problem with the hammer spring being too heavy. Contact Walther or Smith and you can at least check to see if this is a problem. I think if more people griped and sent guns back to the manufacturer when they don't perform maybe guns coming out of the factory would improve.

I bought one of these guns because years ago I owned a Beretta 70S in .22 that I foolishly traded away. Now I have never been able to locate one at any of the million gun shows I have attended over the years. The P-22 reminds me much of the 70S and in many ways is better, except perhaps in the reliabllity dept.

The reason I bring up the 70S is this: A lot of people put the .22 down as a defense round. Check your figures and you will see that probably more people have been killed by the .22 than many other rounds combined (in peace time that is).
I don't want to sound too James Bondish but it is a fact that the Israeli Mossad used the Beretta 70S, in .22, quite often for assassination. Of course they usually used multiple assassins and went strictly for head shots as they were trained to do. The advantage to the .22 was that it was fairly quiet in use, small and very concealable. Look it up yourself on the Internet about the Beretta 70S and it's role in assassination. The .22 Ruger was often used in Vietnam for the same type of work.

I am not saying that if I had my choice of defense handgun, that it would be the P-22. As a matter of fact it would not even be a semi-auto.
I prefer my S&W 5 shot Model 696 in .44 Special.
It has a 3" Magnaported barrel and Herret's custom Detective grips custom fitted to my hand.
With Silvertips or the CCI Gold Dots I feel very well protected but sometimes if I worry about overpenetration thru walls, etc, I break out the P-22. With the magazine half loaded with Stinger hollowpoints and CCI solids I may not be defended as well as I could be. But I sure would not want to be on the receiving end.

I think it is a great little contribution and I hope lots of custom accessories are produced to fit the accessory mounting rail on the frame. I think some inexpensive night sights would be neat too. A laser that replaces the guide rod would be cool but would cost more than the gun.

The first thing I thought about the gun when I saw it was "suppressor". It is perfect for that if
you can afford the license.

Anyway, I got lucky and got my P-22 for $230. The next gun show I did not see one for under $260.

It's all just luck and timing!

PS: A little judicious polishing on the hammer and slide contact points with a stone and/or fine
emory cloth and a thorough cleaning will help with the ejection problems. Then just shoot it a lot and I will bet that unless you got a lemon, all of your functionality problems will disappper.
At least most of them.

It could use a trigger job but the gun is a bit new to know how to do a proper job as yet. I tore
mine completely down and be careful. It is not for the faint of heart. I did a bit of judicious stoning but without much improvement. This type of gun is difficult to improve the trigger pull on but considering it is not a target gun, that does not bother me much. I can live with it just the way it is.

Greg Phillips

Well after about a hundred rounds or so I have only had one mis feed, but still no jams or the like. I am quite impressed with this gun since all the P22's I've fired (3 diff. ones) none have had any of these horror story problems that seem to be somewhat common. My barrel nut, hoever, did loosen up after that many rounds and I was wondering: has anybody fully resolved the problem using locktite (not super glue- I don't want that in my gun)? Same with the nut in the grip- any tips? Thanks!

BTW- my P22s serial starts with 'N'xxxxx and clips both end in 'A'. They seem to be pretty hassle free.

I recently purchased a Walther P22 and although I am a seasoned shooter this is my first handgun. This week I put over 1000 rounds through it of varying brands all were copper coated and high velocity. My Walther produced similar groups and fed every brand of ammunition I put in it. I took the time to properly clean and lube my pistol after shooting and I have to say that its is one of the most accurate and reliable firarms I have ever come across.

Well I decided to call Walther today and order up two more stabilizer screws so I can just drop them in once I get the stripped one drilled out. They were very helpful and didn't ask any unnecessary questions- he just got my first name and address and I will have the parts in 3-5 days, no charge whatsoever. They also have next day available, if you are in a hurry and willing to pay lots of shipping- it would have been about $18 just to ship two screws. Good customer service rating in my book, though.

I have had my p22 since they first came out i've put about ten thousand rounds threw it and had a hand full of jams if you keep them clean and oiled thair a grate compact self defence wepion and fun to shoot.I have no regrets about my perches all the sh** talking about this gun is bull sh** if you ask me

I have had my p22 since they first came out i've put about ten thousand rounds threw it and had a hand full of jams if you keep them clean and oiled thair a grate compact self defence wepion and fun to shoot.I have no regrets about my perches all the sh** talking about this gun is bull sh** if you ask me

I've put at least a 1000 plus rounds threw my P-22 with a problem. Yes theaguila SSS 60gr. works great threw mine.

That is I had no problems with my P-22.

I put the Five inch barrel on my P22 and I had no problem hitting point of aim out to fifty yards with the factory sites. It ate every brand I put in it. Fed,Win,Aguila SSS, and Rem. Now out passed fifty I had to concentrate a little more. I think the trigger is just fine on the one I have. Twenty yard rapid fire inside a six inch circle.

Wow! I sure am glad I didn't see this site before I purchased my P22. All the negative comments would have talked me out of it. And that would have been a real shame, because I'm having a tremendous amount of fun with it. I don't know if I just got lucky or something, but mine works perfectly. I thought it was fussy about which brands of ammo I use, but it turns out that it's really only fussy about being cleaned regularly. If you're having problems try giving it a good clean and lube, and check to make sure the screws that have been referenced in several of the preceeding messages are tight. I've had zero problems with CCI Stingers, Remington Targets, Subsonics, Thunderbolts, and Golden Bullets, provided the pistol is clean and lubed. Also, keep in mind that the instructions call for you to tap the magazine so that the bullets are resting all the way to the back before inserting the magazine. My experience with this gun has been 100% positive.

Just to be clear, I love the P-22 and also agree it would make for a great self defense weapon, should it be needed, and used properly. If it hadn't been for the factory stripping that screw head, it would have been a perfect gun. Supremely accurate, even to 50-60 yards and that was only the second time I really got to sit down and practice with it.

Please help! Does anyone know what the thread
specifications are on the end of the barrel?
Are they Metric or American? How many threads
per inch. I have a cheap thread gauge but the
threads are so fine, it was difficult to be certain. I went to a hardware story and tried every type and size bolt to see if it would thread
into the barrel nut but could not find one to fit
it!
Greg Phillips

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I am writing to inform people that they should absolutely not buy this gun. I bought it because I liked the size and weight of the pistol. However the pistol simply does not work. I had to send the first pistol back to the company and they could not fix it. It had to be destroyed at the factory. The company sent me a replacement which also fails to function properly. I have had the follwing problems.

1) All magazines fail to feed rounds on both guns.

2) The pin located in the safety slides out on both guns.

3) Empty shells were constantly jammed between slide and barrel on both guns.

4) The barrel bushing came unscrewed on the first pistol. I "fixed" the problem by tightening the bushing so tight the wrench bent and I could not unscrew it without damaging the bushing.

5) One magazine had to be forced into the gun and would not come out when released on the first pistol.

6) Rounds were constantly caught on the barrel ramp on the first pistol.

7) The magazines would fall out of the gun while shooting, this was the replacement pistol.

In conclusion the P22 pistol is a complete and utter failure. Do not under any circumstances buy this gun. It simply does not function. I will never recommend any of Walther or Smith and Wesson automatic pistols to anyone and they have lost a costumer for life. The only thing I can say in Smith and Wesson's defense is that both of these pistols were made in Germany and started with L for a serial number. And when the gun did shoot it did shoot accurately. Do not buy any pistol with L for the first letter. One was a grey frame the other was a black. I am surprised Smith and Wesson would put thier name on such a pathetic and poorly manufactured and designed product, after all they do make good revolvers. I am a mechanical engineer and I cannot imagine how the designers got away with this one. It was obviously designed solely in a computer with little thought to the real world. Some people trust thier lives on thier gun and this model simply does not work. This pistol is completely unreliable and untrust worthy. You would be better off throwing it at a your target than attempting to fire it. I could design a better pistol than this piece of junk. I have had nothing but problems. Do not under any circumstances buy this pistol !!!! :(

This final comment is something that bothers me about this pistol. Why am I buying a German made pistol when I live in Massachusetts and I could literally drive to the Smith and Wesson factory? Why is this pistol not made in the USA? I guess it is just another instance of "outsourcing" US jobs. I am sorry to have such a negative opinion of the P22. I tried to enjoy it for target shooting but it failed twice and in my opinion thats twice to many. :(

AAC Pilot silencer is best for the P22.Silenced,short barreled P22,when shot dry has an average sound signature of 119dB with supersonic ammo,115dB when shot dry with subsonic.It's only 25 bucks more than the Gemtech Outback,and has reduces sound 8 dB's more than the Outback,the AAC Pilot has lifetime warranty and stainless steel rear mount.No,joking,this package is awesome.You can go to Advanced-armament.com to see an article on the P22/AAC Pilot silencer.They're even putting ads with this set-up in guns mags now.

Also,AAC sells P22 threaded barrel bushings for 40 bucks...20 bucks cheaper than Gem-tech.And,I forgot to tell you guys the new dB reduction of the Pilot...41dB! And,if you'll remember,the intergrally suppressed rugers and brownings have 43dB reduction...that's not much difference!41dB...that makes Gemtech's Outback seem awful crappy with it's 33dB reduction.I know 9mm silencers that have -33dB!

I bought a P22 (5") and took it to the range immediately. I put 700 rounds through it. The dealer warned me that it takes about 50 to 100 cci stinger to break it in. And indeed. after having 50 stingers and several jams the damn thing just works like a charm! I used CCI Minimag and the remington golden bullet after the CCI stingers. After about 400 rounds the often mentioned pin under the safety lever came out and the worm screw on the front stabilizer came out. I tightened all screws and pushed all pins back, put some loctite on the pins and was happy ever after....
The gun is VERY accurate (I shot competition in Germany... I know what I'm talking about).
Yes, I am a little disapointed in the initial quality of the gun, but after the mentioned tightening and securing of screws and pins it is a very pleasant shooting gun. I will give it to my wife as a home defense gun. Like mentioned by others before: A .22 can as well be a potent weapon if you are trained to deliver an aimed head shot under stress. If you use a hot hollow point .22 at the right spot the damage will be lethal. It just needs training... Together with a noise supressor a perfect match at close range and close quarters (like in a home defense situation).
Oh, and by the way... if you are not able to deliver an accurate shot under a high pressure, high stress situation the best high powered handgun is useless for self defense. On the contrary. You will do more collateral damage and bring so called "innocent bystanders" in a dangerous situation with a big bore gun you are not able to control. And just as a little detail: think of the noise of a .45 fired in a 10' by 8' bedroom. If you are not wearing hearing protection (and I guess you won't be able in a home defense situation) you will probably bleed out of your ears and have popped eardrums. Think about it! Hoping that none of us will ever be in need of home defense, I will close this little article with the words going to "J": why is a walther p22 made in Germany, hmmm let's see... oh, it's a german company. If you don't like german products don't buy them!
I personally don't give a damn where stuff is made. If it's well made and it deserves my hard earned money I'll buy it!

The P22 is my first gun, had it now almost 1 year. It is an "L" series with "A" mags. I have fired about 750 rounds and it has performed very well. I had one case stay in the chamber and had to pull in out manually. This last week I did experience the symptoms of it "not firing" but, after reading some of the entries here, I quickly discovered it is the pin at the safety coming out. I have pushed it back in and the gun works flawlessly (per usual). I will try the locktight bacause it does loosen as you shoot. I have not had a problem with the gun's operation while using "high velocity" cartridges. Did try CCI Blazers "standard velocity" and there were problems (caused by not enough power to cycle gun properly). The only other comment I have for right now is that for the money, this gun seems to deliver what you expect. Maybe a small problem with the safety pin loosening but, it is accurate and works very well with proper amount of charge. I say, buy it!

Just purchased a P22. The gun feels good and I really like the sights. No misfeeds yet. HOWEVER this is the worst gun as far as reassembly that I have ever owned. Is there a secret to putting the slide and SPRING back together on the 3 inch model??

I had trouble with that my first few times. No secrets that I have found yet, maybe I'm just getting better at it. Make sure that the spring is seated properly on the slide before you get the rod through there or else you just have to start over. There is something in the manual but, I can't make sense of it (like a rod or something?).
Well, I wanted to come back here and make an update to my post about the roll pin near the safety. I called S & W today and the rep. said that I shouldn't use locktight but, I could either send them the slide to be fixed or I could do the fix. He said, "flip the slide over exposing the pin from underneath then take a center punch and hit it to make a dimple." He said that will stop the pin from walkng out and that is how they handle it if you sent it to them. He said that the pin can still come out if the need arises later down the line.
Hope this suggestion works. I am going to try it. I'll try to post another message once I do it and see if it works. If anyone else gives this a try, please let us know the results.

Cheers!

Hey all,
I'm new to this forum, but not new to Walther pistols (PP,PPK,PPK/s & P22). The newer "N" serial # P22 slides already have the pin dimpled from the factory. Just turn the slide over and view the exposed portion where you can see a bit of the pin. Both my slides (I have two P22's) have the pin already done in this manner. I guess as concerns come in on the P22, S&W modifies as the new ones are produced.

Almost forgot,
The receiver screws you are claiming that are backing out (one can be seen by field stripping and the other that is hidden by the grip frame) are in fact "lock-tightened" now by the factory. I removed mine from both my "N" P22's and lock-tite was used. I guess another issuue S&W addressed from concerns. It seems they took care of all the bugs from earlier series (A-mags,safety pin,receiver screws). Both my "N"'s are flawless with no matter what hi-vel I put in them. Now to try sub-sonics. I wonder if Wolff Gun Spring will produce a lighter reciol spring for better cycling of the lower velocity ammo?

P22 reassembly,
I called WaltherAmerica and they told me to use the small rod included in the accesories kit to compress the mainspring prior to guiding the slide back on. There is a picture of it in the manual but it is located in the section dealing with changing barrels. That didn't work worth a damn either. So I took it to the dealer and asked one of the experts to reassemble it for me so I could learn from him. He just rolled his eyes! Claimed he worked for over 20 minutes and could not reassemble. The range officer who cleans all of the rental guns each day came over and put it together in about 2 minutes. He claims practice makes it easier each time. He did not use the accessory rod. He thought it was a stupid design. I have to agree. Walther (S&W) must have had a monkey for an engineer on this gun. I can strip and reassemble any of my Browning High Powers with my eyes closed.

Well I finally got mine back from Smith and Wesson, hard to believe it takes that long to get one screw out...About the pin in the safety- my p22 has a N serial number and the pin still moves around in there enough to get in the way of the safety switch when trying to move it into the fire position. If I need to make another dimple, where on the pin does it need to be to keep it from sliding around? I hope this doesn't become a recurring problem with my gun as it has yet to let me down on the range.

Just an update for the safety roll pin. I checked mine and it did have a small dimple on the exposed portion. However, they seemed to have either punched it to where the pin still sticks out a bit or it is still moving around some in there. It did not come out but it got in the way of the safety switch making it hard to move into the fire position with one finger. The dimple seems to be in a pretty useless place on the pin, meaning I don't think it could stop it from moving around since it's not near anything else. I will try another small one myself but I wonder how I can get the pin back in the other direction a bit. Do I just tap it in with something? What would I use? I tried just pressing it with another pin by hand. It only needs to move about 1/16". Thanks.

PS- I don't recommend using Winchester Xpert ammo. I had literally chunks of deposits coming out of my barrel when cleaning after about 200 rounds.

The pin needs to be tapped with a hammer (small one if you have it) and a flat punch approx a bit smaller in dia than the pin is. Get it centered and here is what I plan on doing (gunsmith tip of the day): I have taken a sharp center punch and "peened" the hole opening of the slide at its edge so there is a tiny burr that flowed into the pin hole. This is done on both sides. That minute burr will keep the pin from backing out in either direction. If the pin needs to be removed for parts replacement, the burr will flatten-out when the pin is tapped rather hard with a hammer & punch. The force of just firing will not disturb the pin at all.
Catch my drift?

Gotcha! The burr idea is a good one and was suggested to me at my favorite local gunshop. Their idea actually had to do with flaring the pin out but the same effect would be had. Thanks for the input.

Found a little trick for reassembly of the slide onto the frame. I noticed the main spring would bend to one side or another if the guide pin was tilted, even just a little bit. This makes it almost impossible to line the pin up with the hole on the slide. I found that pointing the barrel straight up in the air let the pin and spring rest in it's hole at the right angle. While keeping it pointed up, I pull the slide down around the barrel and the guide rod will usually slip right through, as long as the spring doesn't pop out to the side. I don't know if it's really a trick but it seems to be the easiest way for me to reassemble.

I have recently bought a p22 with a 5" barrel. I have shot it 3 different times. 200 rounds the 1st time, 50 rounds the 2nd and I was about 30 rounds into the 3rd time and I noticed that the washer at the end of the barrel with holds the front sight was cocked slightly one way. After inspection I noticed that the washer was tight and it was the barrel itself that was starting to twist back and forth. This is the first handgun that I have owned. I think that the lock for the barrel may have come lose. Is this common? And is it as easy as the directions state to change the barrel? I am a bit uncomfortable with taking this apart, having never done this before. If anybody can help, that sure would be great. Outside of this problem, the p22 has been a great handgun to shoot.

If you read through the forum some more you'll see that nearly all of us had that problem "out of the box". Loctite is supposed to work great and is in fact what they do at the factory before selling them now. The front stabilizer piece comes off the barrell entirely and the washer you speak of, actually the barrel nut, is under it and is what holds the barrel in place. This is what comes loose but I've never had problems after tightening it myself when cleaning the gun. Changing the barrell is cake- the whole thing comes out for easy cleaning- reassembly can be the tricky part.

The barrel nut (washer you speak of) and barrel threads should be de-greased with "GunScrubber" or rubbing alcohol to remove all oils & grease. Then just put a drop of blue Lock-Tite on the barrel threads and reassemble with wrench. That will hold the nut and make removal easier to do since you ONLY use one drop. Any more will make removal more difficult.
Only ONE drop!

Thanks to Jahovah and Walt Fan for their insight. When I took the stabilizer off, you could turn the barrel nut with your fingers. The process only took about 5 minutes. I am now looking forward to shooting it again. Thanks again and I will be checking back often to read about other peoples experiences and will post some of my own. One last thing, I also called the WaltherAmerica 800 number and spoke with a guy by the name of Larry and he was a great help. It is always a pleasure to deal with people who are willing to help.

Hi, read all this opinions before deciding to buy a P22. I found very negative reviews and some positive ones. Even though, I decided to buy one, a 3.4" 'shortie' version. I'm now waiting for the gun because they were out of stock in my local Gun Shop, maybe next week. The guy in the gun shop told me "Don't buy that gun! I sell them like hot cookies, everybody wants one, but I tell you, those guns are no good! They only accept Hi Vel ammo and after 10000 rounds they are coming apart" he didn't mention any malfunctions and jams... What I think about this? Well I have to say that I own a CZ 75 Kadet (.22 conversion to the CZ 75) with abou 1000 rounds fired. It's one of the best guns I ever had, quite affordable for a well made, rugged, extremely accurate gun (I can empty a magazine in a fist sized area as fast as I can pull the trigger 15 yards away) and guess what...with this gun it is normal to experience some jams and that generaly happens when I fail to clean it between a fair ammount of shooting or when I use cheap bulk pack ammo. Lets face it, a 22 is a dirty round, designed to be used in revolvers, and having a large spectrum of velocity ratings these days, it is very hard for manufacturers to tune the automatic cycle to digest all this ammo. Sometimes I get jams in a Marlin bolt action that is not so ammo sensitive as an autoloader, so even if my P22 is going to jam sometimes, that's ok with me, because I know a 22 is never going to be as reliable as a centerfire.

I consider the P22 as an All-Around fun gun, it's not a target gun (even the 5"), it's not a defensive gun, but it seems to have everything to be a great gun to practice combat/defensive shooting... oh well, at least you can train you jam clearing techniques in combat/defensive shooting eh eh!

I'll post my experiences when I finally get it, probably next week.

JB

HI ALL... Yes I too own a Walther P22 "the combo set"... And like most of you I had trouble with Cheap Ammo, but even if you use CCI Mini Mags (which I do)its still a Cheap gun to shoot... However... I need some help, I have owned my gun for 1 week now and put approx. 600 rounds through it, the problem I have is the Clips keep falling out, Walther's said they never heard of that problem? go figure... Has this happened to anyone else? Can anybody out there point me in the right direction... Thanks

I guess it would help if I told you that the two clips I have, one ends in "44-a" the other ends in "36-a"... The pistol starts with the letter "L"... Thanks...

Hello every one, I am a first time hand gun owner and after two years of deliberation I have just purchased a Walther p22 with the 3.4" and I have only shot it two diferent times. My question is why will the CCI CB not eject? The brass looks just like the CCI Mini Mags. Also, I have fired Remington's Golden Bullet (high velocity hollow point) And standard run of the mill round nose lead points. Is it true that "jacketed" rouns are cleaner and better for your gun? Oh, FYI, I do perfer the CCI Mini Mags.

Bought a P-22 (two barrel set) recently for my son. He loves the "James Bond" look, and the thing has shot just excellent, several hundred rounds of Remington gold bullets (gun not cleaned but CLP on the slide) and I do not think the gun has jammed or misfired once. Not my idea of a defense weapon, but for shooting fun we are satisfied and would recommend.

i had a question, did anyone from california heard that the p22 has been banned and is now on the AR15 list? i went to a shop today to see if i can buy one and that's what the salesman told me..
i'm kinda disapointed..

I think I have figured out the trick to reassembly. Take the small Guide rod from the accesories and slide it through the front spring rod opening on the slide, one side slides through easily the other is a little to tight on mine. Slide in the easier side and lower slide,and guide rod, onto the mainspring and spring rod to form a continuose rod all the way through the front of the slide. Just pull the slide back and the spring rod should smoothly ride through the front of the slide, just be prepared to catch the small guide rod as it will shoot out the front and fall. I thought this was the worst design ever till I figured this out thanks to Joe's post, now the spring never needs seating and the springrod is kept under control.

Just one more thing, the guide rod is not compressing the spring it just acts as a pre-threaded guide through the opening in the slide. Just figured I'd say that in case there was any confusion. Good Luck.

i traded my buckmark 4 one with the stabalizer and i love the feel of it but after about a week the fireing pin wouldnt strike

Tightened the barrel nut and the firearm worked great. Fired 300 + rounds through it last weekend. I agree, not a very good target or personal protection gun. A very good fun gun though. I let my 14 year old shoot it up north. Will be shooting again this weekend. I will post any problems we may encounter.

i sent mine back but i should get it back sometime this week so ill probably run a few rounds through it to test it out and just for fun

Got my P22 moments ago (in the previous post I was waiting for it, remember?) just had time to take a good look, my serial starts with a G and both magazines have an A in the end. First impression is good, but in some details it's definitely inferior in construction and design to that of the CZ Kadet. Grip and mag release is not very nice, I mean it works, but is not natural, I feel the gun is too small for my hands, but hey I'm 6'3" I was expecting that. Also the CG (center of gravity) is high, seems all the weigth is in the slide. At this point all I can say is the P22 is everything I was expecting it to be, I'm not saying it is good or bad, It is just what I expected.

Can't wait to test fire it, I'll post the results, maybe next week...

J.Basto

Between Saturday and Sunday my son and I fired 300+ rounds again. So far so good.

I recently purchased the p22 in military green and with the extended barrel with stabilizer. All bolts up front and barrel nut loosened after 100 rounds. Re-tighten and continued. Very accurate considering. The gun never had a hiccup since and I have fed it all types of ammo thru it from cheap to expensive. "N" numbered frame and "A" numbered magazine. I shoot bullseye competition as a expert and I definitely can keep all shots in the black dispite the extremely heavy trigger. I ordered a new threaded barrel nut and silencer from taticalinc.com should be very interesting to say the least. I would recommend this gun purely for tatical practice, backyard hunting, & play.

Hank (and everyone else),

Forgive my ignorance if the answer should be obvious (I'm pretty new to handguns) but at what range are you talking about? I'm certainly not a great shot, but I would like to know what the P22 is capable of if I should ever become one! Of course, I'm shooting the short barrel version, but I'd welcome any comments by experienced shooters on the range I should expect to keep all shots in the black. And how many in a row is "all shots"?

I had to tighten up some screws and the safety on mine to eliminate frequent misfires, but after that, the gun has been 100% reliable for several thousand rounds of various brands of ammo.

Also, I'm amazed at how many comments there are on this gun! If there are any readers out there who haven't seen it, you might want to check out the Walther forum at rimfirecentral.com for lots of information on this great little gun.

Roger,

Like you I am a new owner to handguns, p22 being my first. I have keep all shots (full 10 round clip) in the black from 10, 15, an as of Monday 20 yards away. The short barrel makes the task a chalange but practice, maintance, and staying with "good" shooting habits can do wonders. Good and safe shooting.

P.S.: I had to use a bench rest for the 20 yard shots but no rest used for 10 & 15 yards.

Roger,

Like you I am a new owner to handguns, p22 being my first. I have keep all shots (full 10 round clip) in the black from 10, 15, an as of Monday 20 yards away. The short barrel makes the task a chalange but practice, maintance, and staying with "good" shooting habits can do wonders. Good and safe shooting.

P.S.: I had to use a bench rest for the 20 yard shots but no rest used for 10 & 15 yards.

I ordered my P22, but she did not arrive yet.
I read all the information I could get about this gun and I found some interesting comments about this gun in "Glock talk" (Riemfire club).
Some people say that the spring of the hammer is far toostrong and is responsible for the misfireing.
They left the hammer coked when they put it away
for 2 weeks and had no problem anymore.
This would explain that the problem goes away
ones the gun has been "broken in"

Thanks for the useful tip Kurt! Will try that one too.

BTW- I found a very easy, very effective way to fix the roll pin by the safety. I just crimped one end of it slightly with some channel locks and voila! No more movement whatsoever! Didn't even have to tap it all the way out. I thought about doing the other end but realized it would be impossible to get it the pin back in if fully removed.

hi

i bought my p22 back onapril 17th at a gun show for 256.00 after tax and yes i did have problems but it was from the ammo i was using though. i bought a brick of the aguila super extra, and it mainly caused the slide to not close completely and not fire rounds due to the fact that the have a heavy wax coating on thembut i still forced a good 410 rounds through that same day. I cleaned it that night and the next time i went shooting with it i used the remington bulk stuff along with the thunderbolts my friend brought along with the brick of cci velocitors i paid $41.63 for and had ZERO problems. barrel nut does come loose but i dont care cuz i plan on buying the silencer adapter and the 5inch barrel for it (and hopefully the nickel slide too). and for those of you who havent figured it out the trick to getting the slide back on is with the new p22's like mine they come with a small plastic bar that slides into the hole below the barrel only one end of it will fit though cuz its tapered off and you cannot tell with the naked eye and that keeps the spring from moving and bending on you as you put the slide back on. you also have to make sure you pull the slide all the way back and then push down so that it slides on right as you slowly let it move forward. no for those of you that dont know walther has a reputation of making some of the best but pricey gus that dont like cheap ammo for the guns they normally make arent cheap take the p5 for instance, so in other words dont use cheap ammo in them check to make sure that they arent covered in wax, etc.

the only gripe i have with this gun and walther is that they dont have any cheaper add-ons for this gun, the only people that make a holster for it is fobus (and i really want a tactical leg holster for the competions we have at the shoots i go to due to my long a** arms, and when i called them they couldnt even tell me what kind of accesory rail it had i just got an email back from them saying that the xml mini light for the springfield xd9 and the insight m3 tac light would fit on it which im about too look into even though the people from insight said it would not fit). and for those of you that want one or plan on buying one clean it first and only use clean high velocity ammo in it personally cci velocitors (17/20 for both clips 25 yards out after adjusting rear sight to the left a little shooting at metal plates) are my pick for home defense and just plinking around use the remmingtons.

serial# L######
model# P 22
Barrel: 3.4
rounds so far 820

hi there all,

i've had my p22 for about a year and a half now, shot about 2500 rounds through it, with only about 15-20 ftf, i find that the aguila sss 60 grain 22lr to be the best for reliable shooting at the range, and also quik shok prefagmented 22lr. for a carry weapon the p22 is great since you can keep it just about anywhere, is very light, and as a sa/da can be carried cocked and locked.

I just got my p22 on 5/3[compo,at a Hartford Ct gun show] and took it to the range last night. The serial number is in the 45000 range and the gun was flawless all night. I ran about 300 rounds through it,all were the cheap Walmart stuff. So far so good, they may have the problems sorted out but time will tell.

I just bought the P22 limited edition for $359 + tax brand new. Took it out today and shot 500-600 rounds through it with no real problem. About 9 or so that wouldnt' fire on the first pull of trigger but after pulling trigger again or repositioning the bullet they would go off...was shooting winchester 55grain round nose bulk ammo....I would say this gun isn't really for target shooting and that the baretta Neos works better for that. But just for plinking and shooting around i would say it is good. It is small and compact and u can put it almost anywhere....once i get my TAC67 silencer for it...no one will know im even firing it.. but a GREAT overall gun to purchase.

My friend just gave me his walther p22. I fired 300 rounds of remington cyclone without a jam or missfire. The gun came with a SD22 silencer without a manual. Could anyone help me or give some tips on how to use it? amount of water to place? how to clean it? i tried it with aguilla sss but noise reduction was minimal, is the silencer defective or am i using the wrong ammo?

^^^^
Sounds pretty sketchy to me...he just gave it to you?? Did you ask him anything like 'why'??

I don't think I would just take a silenced weapon from somebody if they wanted to just 'give' it to me without knowing it's history EXACTLY.

Don't mean to scare you or anything but if someone is trying to get rid of a gun AND a silencer without selling it legally, chances are there's a reason they're doing it. catch my drift?

This is very illegal. You can not just give someone a silencer. You need to get ahold of a Class III dealer and see what needs to be done on your part. Good Luck.

just an observation, is it just me or is the SSS the only subsonic ammo that cycles through the walther p22 without any problems. As for the grouping the Walther still puts them in the 10 ring at 50 feet.

will a glock light fit on the p22 rail???

The SD22 silencer is about the shittiest silencer you can buy.It only has about -20(dB) noise reduction.That's like half the normal Noise reduction level of a good rimfire silencer.Try putting around 5cc's of water in the rear of the silencer,and using either remington or CCI subsonics.And,yes,you definitely need to have it registered if you are going to keep it...find a class III dealer in your area,take it to him,and he will fill out the paperwork for you,you'll have to get the law-enforcement signature,passport photos,and $200 transfer tax,and the dealer will have to keep it at his store until you get approved by the ATF.But,I suggest if you decide to go through all of that,you get rid of the SD22 and buy a good silencer.That one won't last very long,and it's a sorry excuse for a silencer at that.Hope this helps.

my P22 s/n # Lxxxxxx clip #256 93 44-A is ammo sensitive had good results out of remington hi-speed cyclone. my problem is the clip comes out while shooting the gun. anyone have any info on this problem any fixes etc.

As a test, can someone confirm something for me? With an empth magazine inserted, the safety off and the hammer in the forward position, squeeze off a double action shot. Does the hammer strike the firing pin? Mine does not. My P22's hammer is stopped before it engages the firing pin and will not fire in DA mode. It has worked flawlessly other than that. Is this a common problem?

Any help is appreciated.

C

Brent--

This happens to my wife constantly, but never to me. We have identified her problem as having to do with the way she is holding the gun. Somehow, her double-handed grip is allowing her to hit the mag release when she fires. The mag only comes out after a shot, so we think the mild recoil is causing one of her fingers to come in contact wit that release lever.

I have put half again as many roundthrough the gun as her and I have never had this problem. Try firing STRONG hand only and see if the problem persists.

WHERE CAN I GET FREE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DETAILED CONSTRUCTION OF A SOUND SUPPRESSOR FOR A 9 MM. PISTOL?
THANK YOU

thanks CBJ. i got the gun for my 8 year old son.the clip comes out on him a lot. it dont fall all the way out but slips out just enough to cause the gun not to fire. i aint shot it much but the next we shoot i'll let you know it went.

I had tried that "fix" for the roll pin on the safety (the one with the dimple from under the slide) and that did not seem to work. I did try the other suggestion of pinching the end of the roll pin with a pair of pliers. That helped but, still came out a little (always to the left) so, I pushed the pin out to the right and pinched it there. Now, it has not moved. I think that pinching the pin seems to work MUCH better than the "dimple" routine!
Also, I saw a write-up about the "magazine coming out problem". I can't remember where I saw it but, they said to take a look at your trigger finger. If it is at the bottom of the trigger, it can hit the mag. release during recoil. They stated that the design "could be better" but, both me and my wife have not had this happen. Just see if you can tell your son to place the pad of his finger higher up on the trigger. This should do the trick. :)

CBJ,

I had the same problem with double action failing work and catching on the half-cock notch.

GO Here for info and a fix, but only attempt it if you are mechanically inclined.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63633

Where can I get the worm screw? I lost it.

i had the problem with the mag falling out when firing but my wife didn't. i am sure it is because i have fat fingers. i moved my finger higher on the trigger and it didn't happen, but it sucks on draw and shot because of my habit of pulling on the bottom half of the trigger. i also had feeding problems. i am going to try all the ideas in the forum. thanks for the info

Some info update
Got my P22 Target last week haven't shot it yet.
Contacted Walther in Germany to answer me two questions.
Has my pistol been manufacture by S&W or in Germany?
Answer: All P22's are manufactured in Germany.
My Serial Nr. starts with H******, when has my Pistol been manufactured.
Answer: Your pistol has been manufactured in November 2003.
The letters in the serial Nr. are not in sequence with the alphabet.
Take care
Kurt

I n May,2003 I bouht brand new P22 with conersion kit that includes both 3.4 & 5 inch barrells wwith three aim sihts and couple of gun rests. I paid 407.00 with tax. Want to know if price wa too high.

I paid 360.00 for the same thing,so 407.00 wasn't to high.Let us know what you think of the gun.

Hi all, I just read an artical in Gsns and Ammo and other firearm magazines about hornady's new .17M2 bullet that is a necked down .22cal to fit a .17cal the artical said to find out if your firearm maker is going to release a barrel for your specific gun. does anyone know if Walther or Smith and Wesson is going to make such a barrel?

I called Walther US customer service to ask about the Walther laser sight that is shown in the German 2004 catalog. I learned that the laser and pistol kit should be available in the states in late June. I e-mailed Walther Germany twice but received no reply.

Has anyone heard anything yet? I'm interested in buying an OEM laser to add to my green P22 but it can't cost an exorbitant amount of money. Maybe $200 to $250.

Anyone with knowledge about this subject, please reply. Thanks

I bought the P22 with the nickle slide and 3.4 inch barrel for $280. Fits my 90-pound, 19 year old daughter's hand perfectly. This is the first gun she's been totally comfortable shooting. We've put about 300 rounds through it so far, mostly Remington bulk box but also CCI Mini Mags. No Failures to Feed, Failures to Fire, or Failures to Extract. A few spent cases have gotten caught by the slide and a few times the slide has stopped short of full forward. I think both are due to low powder in the round. A very fun gun to shoot.

Hey All,

In spite of jams with P22 in USA or EU (Germany...) It's all about the same. P22 basically need more efficient ammo. We tried MiniMags and worked good. Stingers were a little bit problematic and according to me the best way to go is to use PMC ZAPPER-HV-HP. Don't know about fixing the problems in series past "N"

Regards from Europe.

Thinking about buying a p22 but there sure seems to be a lot of guns with problems. What serial number letter should I look for (N,L,H???) and would the suppressor adaptor with thread protector cure the loose bushing nut problem?

can someone please tell me where i can buy a factory laser for the walther p22 PLEASE! thank you very much!!! please e-mail!!!

does anyone know where I can get a Walther P22 in and around Toronto for fairly cheap. Preferably from a place that I can buy hopups to.

Well after researching and looking around I ended up trading my P22 in for a Ruger MK II. I have never looked back since. I'm sorry to say, but there are much better small caliber guns out there, both for target shooting and/or a carry weapon. My ruger has never failed to feed, jammed, misfired, failed to extract, or jammed during extraction with ANY AMMO I SHOOT WITH IT. I recommend using the FEDERAL BULK PACKS with the P22 or most other .22s for cheap ammo. It is also eons more accurate than the P22 was with my 5" barrel and the rugers is 5.5". As for a carry gun, I plan to get a Beretta Tomcat .32acp. A very nice, affordable, small gun with a bit of stopping power.

I recently purchased the P22 combo that came with both the 3.4" and the 5" barrel (not that that is really important here) - but after toying with it, breaking it down and putting it back together, I tried to see how to remove the sideplates, trigger assembly, etc. in order to change out the receiver or grip on the gun. After uneasily working on the straight pins (without so much as a budge) I'm left wondering if all they need is a hard push, good tap or what? I don't want to hammer away on them if all they need is some turning - but they don't seem to look like they do. So if anyone can help, I would be most appreciative.

Ok, whoever read what I had posted above - please disregard it... After sucking it up, I gave the pins a nice smack and they popped out (clap if you like). After doing so I was still unable to get the sideplates, trigger assembly, etc. out. Now, I suppose is my current question - what step am I missing to get that stuff out? Thanks to whomever takes the time to help me out.

I am getting a p22 target is that better then the normal p22 cuase have one on layway is it true that is a good gun e-mail me please.

I bought the P22 as a 'second' to my Glock 17 (which I love). I bout the 3.4 barrel to keep it on the inexpensive side. The Glock is pretty cheap to shoot, but I thought the Walther P22 had the look of a combat auto and felt great in my hand and would be a fun gun to pull out before or after my 9mm shooting. I did have it not eject 2x's - but figured out quickly that 22lr ammo is not only cheap but CHEAP. A dollar fifty more per hundred and now it fires perfectly. I have put about 600 rounds through it (its still new) and think it is a great gun/value. I had a short panic when I first took it apart to clean as I had been spoiled by the Glocks ease of tear down n rebuild, but after I figured out the I was putting the spring assembly in backwards (I dont like to read :) - & figured out the little rod helper and now I can tear it down and reassemble it in no time -easy. I was surprised at its accuracy and the amount of fun I have shooting it-everyone who trys it agrees that its a blast. I have read a lot of complaints about material composition, jamming, ect. and can only add that if you are expecting the performance of a 500+ dollar gun buy one-this is a sub 300 dollar gun that works great. I highly recommend as a first time gun (for you or your family members) or as and addition to your growing arsonal.

BTW - to the guy who says he got a free p22 with a silencer-it is a felony to transfer the ownership of a silencer without the $200 stamp. You have to have the paperwork with the gun at all times or you will go to jail. Have fun.
DM.

I have not fired a P22 yet, but I used to own a PPK/s in 22lr. The jamming problems of the P22 seemed to match my ppk's before I gave it a very good clean and lube job. I suspect the tight tolerances and the powder residue from the round or even defective rounds are to blame for jams, rather than the gun itself. Also stay away from high velocity rounds, stick to med/standard velocity. Inexpensive Federal brand worked wonderfully in either velocity. So did CCI's but were more expensive. All in all, a great gun for many uses. If anyone in El Paso,TX or vicinity wants to sell a used P22 or better yet, a PPK,PPK/s in 22LR, a Beretta M87 22lr (mod84 look alike), or a Browning Buckmark for a reasonable price, please e-mail

I am like one of the other readers. I am sure glad I purchased this little gun before I read some of the negative comments. I just purchased my P22 and shot it today for the first time. I shot 70 or 80 rounds and had no problems at all. I was also very suprised how accurate it was at about 40 yards. I feel this gun is a good buy at around $250.00 and would reccomend it to anyone looking for a small semi-auto to carry for fun or self protection.

I recently purchased a P22 for my eleven year old to teach him to shoot. It is perfect for this. It is small and light weight so he can handle it with ease. Standing with a two handed grip, I can put 10 rounds onto a 5 inch circle, and I am no expert by any means. As far as jams go, we get about 1 jam per 75-100 rounds. SO WHAT! Some people act like this is just terrible. Semi-auto's jam. Period. If you want reliability get a revolver. Considering the price, this gun is amazingly fun and cheap to shoot. If you want a gun that is less likely to jam you will need to pay much more for it. I have a Ruger 10/22 rifle that gets a stove pipe jam every 40-50 rounds or so. This is not a big deal. You clear it and keep shooting. As far as use of the 22 caliber for defense: If you get hit with a 22 round at close range it will get your attention. It will definately give you pause. In those few seconds you can get off another 4-5 rounds and this will definately take the fight out of your attacker. Overall I am very pleased with my purchase.

DO NOT BUY A HIGH-POINT 9MM THEY ARE THE MOST INACURATE JAMMING PICES OF SHIT YOU COULD BUY THEY CANT EVEN GO THROUGH A NINE ROUND CLIP WITHOUT JAMMING OR NOT FIREING EVEN WITH GOOD AMMO THEY WILL DO THIS!!!.

My love affair with this pistol began when I first laid eyes on it in a gun shop while I was shopping for a small lightweight backup/off duty gun in .380 ACP. I left the store that day with a Kel-Tec P3AT but I never forgot how appealing the Walther P22 was to me. I really liked the extra features of the adjustable three dot sights, ambidexterous safety, interchangeable backstrap, magazine slide lock, tactical rail, and loaded chamber indicator, none of which were featured on the Kel-Tec. Plus it seemed to be well made for a gun in its price range, it fitted nicely in my small hands, and it just looked so damn cool. After doing much research and reading all the posts on this board, I gathered that the sentiments to this pistol are mixed with both positive and negative. Nonetheless, I went ahead and purchased the Walther P22 3.4 and 5 inch barrel combo set with the gray polymer frame at Galyans Sporting Goods in Indianapolis, Indiana in June 2004 for $339. My specimen is an "L" series model with the "A" style mags.

I couldn't wait to try this gun out and as soon as I got home I shot roughly 50 rounds of assorted ammo through both barrels in my garage into a telephone book. As to be expected and unsurprisingly, it is picky on ammo. I stripped it and cleaned it that night and on my first opportunity I took it to the local range and gun club I belong to three miles away from my house. In this time up until now, I've not cleaned it since the initial cleaning and have shot close to six bricks through it, roughly 3,000 rounds. Shooting a brick or more at one sitting is not untypical for me and I've got the sore thumbs due to reloading mags to prove it. I picked up a spare mag for it at a gunshow and now I wished I had bought five extra mags.

My experience thus far with this gun in this short time has been this:

The gun right out of the box with the short barrel and default #3 sight shot a little low and to the right, an experience commonly reported by other owners. This was easily rectified by replacing the front sight with the shorter #2 sight and adjusting the rear sight. Short barrel accuracy is so-so but I can hit the three foot diameter cast iron metal gong consistently in 10 out of 10 shots at 20 yards. On paper targets groups are approximately 5 inches or so at 7 and 20 yards. I believe this is largely attributed to the operator's skill (me) and not the gun.

Experimenting with a large variety of ammo, this gun reliably feeds Winchester Wildcats, Remington Golden Bullets and Thunderolts, Federal bulk pack copper plated hollowpoints, CCI Stingers and Mini Mags, PMC Zappers, and Aguila Super Maximum Hyper Velocity and Aguila Sniper Sub Sonics. My first preference are Federal bulk pack copper plated hollowpoints as it shoots them exceptionally well and I especially like the fact that I can pick up three to four bricks at a time of loose 550 rounds at the local Wal-Mart for $8.87 each. I also like the Remington Golden Bullets if the Federals aren't available. Shooting hot loads like the CCI Stingers and Aguila Super Maximum Hyper Velocity is insanely fun. I've mixed them up with the Federals in my hand and loaded the mags with my eyes closed just for kicks and believe me, you'll know when you've just shot a Stinger or Super Maximum Hyper Velocity. There is a much louder report, more pronounced muzzle flash and more "oooommph" in the kick. By the way, when shooting any of the loads I've listed so far you will need to wear hearing protection as they are loud coming out of a short barrelled pistol as opposed to my Ruger 10/22 rifle.

Now, getting on to the ammo that doesn't work so well - it absolutely does not like Blazer or Wincester X-pert hollowpoint ammo. It will jam, FTF and stovepipe on me. But that's the end of the "bad" ammo. It will shoot CCI CB short and long caps, as well as Aguila Colibris No Powder, but as you can expect, there is not enough energy to cycle the slide. You will have to rack the slide manually each time to reload the next shot. The CB caps sound like an M-80 firecracker while the Aguila Colibris is a little quieter, sounding like a loud toy cap gun. Incidentally, Aguila Colibris is nearly silent in my Ruger 10/22.

Although I prefer the looks of the shorter barrel, affixing the longer 5 inch barrel with the mock compensator is like getting a new gun! Arguably, it makes it probably the most accurate pistol I've ever shot and own. The longer barrel lengthens the sight radius. The default #3 front sight was right on. Who ever knew that a 5 inch barrel could make such a difference but I can consistently place shots at 21 feet into the red bullseye on a standard Outers Score Keeper paper target on a bench rest. The majority of 30 shots (three magazines) will fall in the 10 ring, sometimes with the red bullseye shot right out, but I'll get a stray bullet or two that will wander into the 9 ring. At 25 yards my groups widen to five inches or so, but I think it's due to me not being able to make out the red bullseye as well. In my opinion, for any pistol that is good. With practice, I can hit the 50 yard(!) three foot diameter cast iron metal gong consistently in 10 out of 10 shots - no small feat for a handgun. I can't be so sure I could fare so well with my Glock 22 .40SW with Lasermax red dot guide rod laser.

With the longer barrel and attached compensator, and even with the short barrel, I found much to my delight that I could attach my Glock Insight Technologies M3 Tactical Light. On the long barrel it slides on perfectly and looks like it's made for the weapon and on the short barrel it will protrude a little past the muzzle but will still provide the same amount of functionality.

As far as holsters go, sadly there are a limited amount of choices currently available. Uncle Mike's manufactures some universal holsters that might fit but one excellent option is the Fobus plastic paddle holster fitted specifically to this gun. I was able to find one on eBay for $21 and it is an excellent holster, lightweight and a great value. Of course, Walther makes a holster for it but looking at pictures of it on the internet, I'm not very impressed. I like my Fobus very much and have even carried my P22 on my person concealed, loaded with a clip of Stingers. Although it wouln't be my first choice, I wouldn't hesitate to carry it in this capacity as a defensive weapon.

With the "good" ammo that I described above, I would say that I experience a malfunction of FTF in an average of 2 to 3 rounds out of every brick of 500. That's not enough to take away from the shooting experience and what gun doesn't malfunction from time to time? Even my Glocks will FTF or stovepipe every once in a while with standard target ammo.

I haven't noticed the barrel nut working its way lose yet. Each time I've changed barrels it has been on tight. The supplied wrench tool is easy to use.

Now onto the negative things, and there are a few, listed from worse to bad:

While shooting the Walther I notice that there is no consistency to where it like to eject the spent casings. My Kel-Tec will eject the casings well over my head to the point of hitting the ceiling of the overhead awning but the P22 will sometimes, but not all the time, eject hot brass onto my arms, shoulder, face, forehead, back and even on occasion going down the front of my shirt! I find that wearing a ball cap helps to aveliate this problem, but it is an annoyance, albeit minor, nonetheless. I've read in a post somewhere that the ejector can be filed down in such a way that it will modify the trajectory of the brass outward and away from the shooter. Unfortunately, I am not mechanically inclined enough to attempt this proceedure but if worse comes to worse maybe I can find a gunsmith to do this for me.

My first few times shooting it the magazine disconnected and partially fell out. I noticed this when the magazine disconnect safety kicked on. This only happened twice and I adjusted my grip and I haven't noticed a problem since. I surmise that it must in the design of the mag release, as it is positioned horizontally unlike the push button releases common on most guns and that I must have been inavertantly hitting it.

In one incident, I noticed that the safety had "walked" its way into the on position. I initially thought it was a misfire and couldn't figure out what was wrong until I noticed the safety selector. It's happened only once and I notice the pin that is by the "S" has started to stick out a little bit on the non-ejecting side. At least it went from "FIRE" to "SAFE" and not the other way around.

Disassembly is a bone of contention among some owners and not surprisingly, the first time I took it apart I found it a challenge to get the guide rod and spring to line up correctly into the slide. Using the supplied tool makes it much, much easier. Once you figure it out you can strip it and put it back together with ease.

Other than that, that's all I can think of as far as the negative things. If you elect to purchase a Walther P22 your experience may differ from mine. My example is the "L" series and I've seen the newer "N" series out, so hopefully they should have some of those problems ironed out. However, I've heard that the combo set isn't available in the "N" series so if you want an "N" series gun you'll have to buy the barrels a la carte. I can't really say that any of the negative things have taken away from the shooting experience. It is a great little gun in a smaller budget package but with all the features found in the more expensive guns, and then some. It's an excellent value and an absolute joy and pleasure to shoot. It's one of the most accurate handguns I own and I can shoot it all day for much less than two boxes of the "big bore" pistol cartidges. Oftentimes I'll invite friends to go shooting with me and they're done with their handguns in 20 to 40 minutes because they've ran through 50 to 100 rounds and at that point, I've still got plenty to spare. At this point I've shot it so much that the gray portion of the frame underneath the muzzle is coated in black soot. I've only cleaned it once since I got it and I plan on cleaning and lubing it again soon so it will function in tip top shape. It is economical to shoot. It's a great companion if you're hiking through the woods or backbacking. For novice or young shooters it's a good platform to learn on due to the lesser recoil and smaller size. I've shot the Ruger and Browning .22 LR pistols and they are fine pieces no doubt, but I don't think they match the eye appeal of a tactical modern pistol. It is by far the favorite gun in my collection and I would highly recommend it.

I hope this review helps those who are contemplating purchasing this fine handgun.

Minh

Oh by the way, I forgot to add that this is one of the easier pistols to shoot rapid fire, due to the smaller caliber. For fun, two and three shot bursts can be fired controllablly in under a second. Try doing that with a .45. I just can't get over how much fun it is to shoot!

Just bought my P22, but havnt shot it yet. I'm looking forward to it, as I have wanted one for a long time. I'm not looking for perfection, but this is going to be a plinking backup to my 2 springfield XD's. I just hope I dont have all these problems, as my XD's are both flawlessly reliable and fieled strip in about 10 seconds with their captive guide rod spring.

I was wondering if the p22 with the 3.4 inch barrel is as accurate as any other .22 pistol.

Im from the philippines and absolutely no prob with the unregistered silencer.

I've had my P22 for a week. No problems with jamming. N serial, A magazines and AD on the ejector port. The only problem I'm having is the barrel nut coming loose every 100-150 rounds. What do you guys recommend? Loctite? Which color? I've cranked it down as far as I dare to by hand and it's still working its way loose. Thanks for any suggestions.

I have had my p22 for about a year, early on when I was expierimenting with every kind of ammo I could find I had quiet a few problems. The worst was (I forget what ammo it was, sorry) faliure to eject. I had to pull out my cleaning rod and knock the case out from the front. This happend with three rounds out of the first 25, at which point I gave the rest of the stuff to somebody else on the range. The rest of my problems were with my grip, the gun is so small that I found if my hand was in the wrong place the slide would drag on it and cause problems and I would also unintentionally hit the slide release sometimes (or be holding it already so the slide wouldnt lock back after the last round). I was pretty discouraged after the first couple trips to the range, but after finding ammo that this gun likes and getting used to holding it properly I no longer have any problems at all. I bought it because I like the way it looks, most other 22 pistols looked goofy or too big to me and since I own a p99 the similarities make it useful as cheap training.

A said, "With practice, I can hit the 50 yard(!) three foot diameter cast iron metal gong consistently in 10 out of 10 shots - no small feat for a handgun."

Actually it is a small feat. 3 feet at 50 yards is not at all impressive. Back in the 1940's the S&W K-22 Masterpiece .22 revolvers were marketed with the claim that the revolvers would group into one and a half inches at 50 yards. I have one from 1948 that will do just that. The majority of Browning Buckmarks, Ruger 22/45's, or Ruger Mark II's should come close to that out of the box and most can be tuned to achieve it. You'll never get that with the P-22.

As for the .22's use as a defensive round. Does the fact that you can kill a grizzly with a .22 by hiding and shooting it in the ear/eye while it is shuffling along mean that it is a good round to defend against one that is charging you? Same logic applies to confrontations with people. Yes a .22 will kill them eventually but will it STOP them from attacking me NOW. If you notice the term stopping power is used when talking about defensive weapons, not killing power.

The best stopper is still the .357 magnum 125 grain JHP.

The P-22 is simply the niftiest little plinking pistol around. No more, no less. If you want a .22 pistol for hunting or target work get something else. Want one just for fun. I think the P-22 fits the bill nicely.

I just bought a P22 with the short barrel and the green grip. I wasn't too crazy about the looks of the military model but I bought what the store had in stock. I was wondering if anyone here has had any luck changing out the grips? I have gotten as far as taking all of the pins out and the mag release off but can't seem to get any further than this. Are there any web pages out there that have a little more detailed instructions on taking this thing down?

Thanks

PT

I paid: $209.00 + tax about a week ago at Sportsman's Warehouse, Phoenix AZ (in-the-door-looking to out-the-door-with-gun-and-ammunition in less than 10 minutes).

Here's my experience with ammo:
CCI Green Tag -- 0 jams in 100 rounds.
CCI Mini Mag -- 0 jams in 100 rounds.
CCI Pistol Match -- 0 jams in 50 rounds.
CCI Stinger -- 0 jams in 50 rounds.
CCI Velocitor -- 0 jams in 50 rounds.
Federal Game-Shock -- 0 jams in 50 rounds.
Federal Gold Medal -- 0 jams, 3 failed to feed in 50 rounds.
Federal Lightning -- 0 jams, 1 failed to feed in 50 rounds.
Remington Golden Bullet -- 0 jams in 500+ rounds, about 5 duds (most will fire if reloaded and struck in a different spot).
Winchester SuperX -- 0 jams in 50 rounds.

My favorites are the CCI Mini Mag, Velocitor and Stinger for the "bang", and the Remington for price ($9.90 for 525 rounds at Sportsman's Warehouse, Phoenix).
Least favorite ammunitions were the two from Federal that failed to feed and I ended up "firing" on an empty chamber.
Can't speak for accuracy on the different ammos -- all of them are better shots than me.

For what it's worth, I hit the target MUCH BETTER by holding the gun as high as possible in my right hand, wrapping the left around it and putting my left forefinger on the front of the trigger guard, and gripping firmly. The left forefinger grip seems to get rid of most of the down-right motion when my right finger pulls the trigger.

One downside -- the P22 throws the expended shells every which way including in my hair, in my face, in my shirt pocket and down my open necked shirt which causes the dangerous "hot shell in the waistband" dance (with a loaded gun). I think some of this behavior (of the ejector, not my dancing) may be specific to the milder ammunition -- heavier loads might throw the shells in a higher arc (over my head) but, to be honest, I haven't kept that close a track on this aspect.

As you can see, I'm putting a lot of different ammunition through the P22 -- I'm teaching myself to shoot before going back to my first love (and first handgun), a Ruger Blackhawk .357 Magnum. But I'm finding the P22 is almost as enjoyable (with the noisier loads) and, boy, is it a whole heck of a lot cheaper to shoot!

i own a p22 and i use it for my carry pistol many say you shouldnt carry a 22 for defence but i tell you this if you know how to use it and prectise right you can put that 22 where ever you want no recoil to worry about i practis up close shots and shots fromj 1 to 30 meters and can always hit hart with it

I to was having problems with my p-22 jamming, then one day I went through about 500 rounds at the range and about 100 rounds in it started jamming and the the action started feeling a little rough like it was really dirty. I went to swab it out and noticed just the smallest wiggle in the barrel. I checked and sure enough the end cap which I had tightened with the wrench bwfore shooting was finger tight. Went out to my truck and got some loc-tite (blue) put it on the threads reassembled it and it hasnt jammed since. Alittle extra work when cleaning to clean and dry the threads for another application of loc-titebut no more wiggle.. Which wasnt alot of wiggle in the first place but any at all can cause misfeeds,....or worse,......Bobzilla

have had my p22 for about a year after doing some research and several calls to s/w thay had problems with the 44 mags which caused jams which was replaced by the 44a also the 36 the other number which does not jam ive put close to 1000 rds thru it of fed and remingtom and have had three jams that was the 44a mag. makes a good back up weapon. remember a 22 carried is better than a 45 left home good shooting reg

I got my p22 last Aug. 8/04 with "L" before the serial#, and "A" in their Mags, so far I fired 70 rds of CCI minimags with NO problems, I find this as a good 2nd gun for my SW908s 9mm, but what I do not like is when field stripping it, why did a good refutable gun maker makes it hard to dissamble & assemble hard? I am not an acrobat to do it.another thing the barrel nut cmes loose, the PPK/s or PP can be disassembled in seconds.

brought the limitted edition home today (9/5/04) w/ both barrels, for $340+tax from Sportsmans Warehouse. i had to have this pistol after shooting my friends yesterday. much funner AND cheaper than my 9mm!

regarding the re-assembly from field strip - i couldnt figure it out from the manual. called my friend and had it back together in 1 minute on the phone. comment #1, talk to (or watch) someone, and it will be easy for ever more. comment #2, yeah too bad about having to have that little plastic piece, not ideal for the survivalist situation.

my model is an "N" series with "A" mags. I will report back after a couple k rnds.

Well I have had my 3.5" p22 for about a month now ser # LXXXXXX, I love the way the it feels in my hands, and it does look Great, but from there it goes downhill, I own two Glocks a 17 and a 30 with no misfeeds on ether, so simple in design and so reliable, but not pretty to look at. I have 3 clips all of which have XXX XX XX-A
ser. # the first shooting went like this 3 shooters each with one of my clips, all had multiple jams with the clips dropping out 2-3 times per clip or 10rds, so much for clip or shooter error, the bullets were Walmart Federal copper HP bulk pack and sportsman warehouse Remington golden bullet 525 pak, which is what most are having some of the best luck with, so the finger is pointing at the pistol for blame.
As for design, a captured recoil spring like the Glock would be a real plus for reassembling, the Safety would be more understandable if the "F" was a bright RED, when handing the pistol to the next shooter, as it looks,if you move the selector to the "S" position, you are now in the "F"ire mode and with no RED "F", A non-P22 owner know thinks it is on safety. I have my 2 boys shooting with me and it seems they could come up with a better system all around, everything seems to come loose on this pistol, I have never had this problem with any other firearm except scopemounts witch loc-tite cures, your "BARREL COMING LOOSE", what other firearm do you know of that has that as a problem "HOLY SMOKES".
Not real happy, I will be in touch with WALTHER, It is a fun gun to shoot when I can make through 10 rds and the clip doesn't fall out. I subscribe to "Gun Test" magazine, and their test pistol went through great with a "buy it" approval, it seems some P22 work great just a little ammo brand choice, and some of us have nothing but problems, maybe I just got one of the BAD lots. Terry

i got my p22 a few months ago. i took it to the range the weekend i got it and fired at least 400 rounds through it with very litle problems. 22lr rounds are the dirtiest and most pourly produced rounds that you can buy so you can expect to have occasional problems with feeding and accuracy. i have owned a browning buck mark and a ruger mark 2 and a smith and wesson a22 and a bersa 22 and a taurus p22 and i like tha walther better than any of them. i have fairly large hands and i did not find the grip at all uncomfortable despite the lack of room for my pinky finger. i found the gun to point very naturally. also with the five inch barrel it was quiet enough to shoot without muffs with no discomfort. my wife who seldom ever shoots with me fired the gun and was putting 7 out of 10 in an 8 inch circle in her second clip. overall i found the gun to be wonderfull and i would recomend it to anyone who is wanting a good all around weapon. also, for a gun that so many have said it not a target gun, for a gun not intended to be a target gun it does a heck of a good job. and to those of you who dont believe the p22 should be carried as a self defence weapon i will say this, most shooters with half a brain know which caliber to carry for which situation. no you dont carry a .22 into bear woods, who would? but i own a glock 21 and a glock 36 (both .45 cal.) and for everyday protection in city or rural setting i would trust my life to the p22 just as soon as i would the glocks.

You wouldn't TRUST your life on My P22, unless you just have a death wish! I would trust my life on a GLOCK!
Terry

OH P.S. I went out and shot again tonight, with my buddys both of which have P22's, I shot theirs with out any problems, I tried to make a switch there but they watching to close, Damn that would seem the quickest fix, how about it "ATTITUDE1" want to trade?
On slow fire seems to get worse after the 5th or 6th round, had a drop clip on the 5,6,7,8,9,10th round of one clip a NEW personal best for me so far! 6 clip drops on one clip WOW,
took that same clip out and ran it through the other Two P22's with out even a hick-up in their guns. In rapid fire I made it to the last round before it dropped the clip, maybe it new it was time to reload? Now if I could train it to drop the clip on the last round that would be great!
I love shooting this little gun, If you get into a gun fight throw them my P22, then grab your GLOCK. :-/ Terry

my p22 never jamed on me i use stingers and boy i put more then 1300 rounds and still have never jamed not even when it got dirty i carry it cuz its nice and small light weight and shooting it is great but i always have a bigboy (mak-90 or ab-10 or mini-14)near by just in case i need a little more power

back with a short report (i posted several above this one).

after 500 rounds of winchester super x, 0 FTL, 0 FTE, 3 FTE. About 99.4% efficient at ejection. 100% efficient at loading and firing. Not bad in my opinion.

seems to me the savy buyer will pick up only the serial beginning with "N". It will have "A" mags.

btw, i love to shoot this thing. and that's all i'm really in it for anyway. cheers

I just purchased a P22 today for $259 and took it out and shot 100 rounds of CCI MiniMag. I am very impressed with the gun I had no jams or misfires and it was very accurate(although I had to put the lowest front sight on it). I also own its big brother the P99 in 40 S&W and thats what made me want the P22, inexpensive ammo and great quality.
I Was told the early P99 had a problem with the clips (they would jam if 10 rounds were loaded) so that may be some your guys problem.

I have been reading books about the Mob and SAS/CIA hits for years. The 22 cal is the preferred cal of choice for hit-men believe it or not. It is solely a head shot weapon. The 22cal will have the velocity to enter the skull but not exit, only recherché within the skull wall and not leave any large amount of blood when the shot is fired. This is also why it is a popular model with a silencer for the collector. It is a pure James Bond play toy. I love shooting 3 liter coke jugs filled with water.

I own a Walther P22 with 3.5" Barrel. I usually shoot Federal ammo with few problems. As far as it being problematic, whom ever stated that must not clean it well enough or shoots inacceptable ammo. I love my P22! It is fun and pretty cheap to shoot. Accuracy is perfect when sighted correctly ( I can hit spray paint, soda cans, etc. at over 150+ feet standing !!!). At that distance any misses stay pretty tight group wise too!! All in all it is an incredible camp, plink, target, small game, or even concealable weapon! In the case of defense just remember the rules. And, YES YOU CAN take someone out with a .22lr, just get to know it and fire ammo that you know is compatible.
THE P22 IS THE ULTIMATE .22lr PISTOL!! NO DOUBT!
ENOUGH SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I saw my first P22 back in May/04 and fell in love with how it felt in my hands. I shoot IDPA matches with 2 S&W's - 5926 & 6904. I'm quite familiar with firearms since my dad bought my first one when I was 7 years old - 43 years ago. I bought an OD Green P22 in June/04 and a Beretta Bobcat for my wife. She has arthritis in her thumbs and has trouble pulling the slide back on my 9mm's. She didn't like the Beretta because of the long/hard trigger pull. Needless to say, she took my P22 away from me. I sold the Beretta and bought her a P22 Aug/04. We've shot about 700 rds through mine with 1 FTF and 1 jam. We've shot about 200 rds through hers without any problems using Federal ammo in each. My wife isn't a "shooter" like I am, but this is the first gun that she's been comfortable with. I'd recommend this .22 to anyone looking for a good pistol to shoot to become more familiar with handguns. Before buying one though, one needs to read through this forum and learn about some of the "quirks and fixes" for the P22. As far as Terry's comments - you can get a lemon in anything, sounds like that's what you got. Get rid of it and get another one, if you really like the gun. Thanks to everyone for the useful info in this forum. Good shooting and remember to double-tap when clearing the holster on the first round.

Where can you get a 3 1/2 p.22 for a $199.00 and at what store?

is it bad on a p22 to dry fire it when the safty is on. i have been told that is a method of decocking the gun. anyone know?

G’day all. First let me say that as I do not yet own a P22 I am unable to test my “possibility” about what could be causing the cycling jams reported on this forum. I saw and fell in love with the P22 this weekend, and I intend on purchasing one ASAP (hopefully within two weeks), and I’ll then be able to test my theory personally. Secondly, I have little experience or knowledge with/about European automatic pistols (I prefer the Colt M1911 .45 auto or Ruger .44 Magnum wheel gun), so if the statements below are inaccurate, please pardon my ignorance. With that said, here’s my question for all the P22 owners on this forum, both those who have experienced problems, and those that didn’t-

When firing, did you have your arm fully “locked out”? Was your arm-elbow-wrist stiff and locked, grip firm and tight? Or loose and limp, grip soft?

My duty weapon is a 9mm Glock 17, and it occurs to me that there are several similarities between the Glock and the P22. Both are of European design (not a slight, just a fact). Both use a polymer frame and are therefore relatively light weight (as compared to an all metal Colt M1911 or Ruger MKII). And both cartridges are relatively underpowered (the .22 cartridge of course due to it’s size).

My firearms instructors were adamant about, and repeatedly instructed/warned us to fully “lock out” our arms and use a firm grip when firing the 9mm Glock, else a short/incomplete cycle of the slide and jam was likely to occur. Now I never experienced this (though others in my class did), but it certainly sounds like what some forum members are reporting.

The P22 (and the Glock) is a European design (again, not a slight, just a fact), very light weight, and uses a very “weak” cartridge. I really can’t discuss/debate European vs. American auto pistol designs, but I think the Colt M1911 or Ruger .44 automag for example are a much more simple, functional and less complicated design than the “elegant” and “deliberate” European designs. The P22 has a polymer frame (as does the Glock), which of course is durable and lightweight. However, this lack of weight, or heft (compared to a Colt M1911 or Ruger MKII) may be in fact hindering the recoil/cycling. The P22 doesn’t have the weight of a solid metal frame to push against to aid in recoil/cycling. And finally, the “weak” .22 cartridge, coupled with the design and light weight of the gun may not have the power to function correctly if the shooter isn’t locking out their arm to provide the required resistance for the slide to recoil/cycle properly.

Some poster’s have reported no problems at all, regardless of ammo used, some have reported problems with certain brands of ammo, but said when they switched to a different brand the pistol functioned fine, and still others have reported problems no matter what ammo they tried. I’m not denying there are differences in the various brands of ammo. There are. But I wonder if the shooters who reported no problems regardless of ammo used are using a “good” stance, firm grip, arm locked which would aid recoil/cycling? And if the shooters who reported problems with some brands of ammo were using a “bad” stance, weak grip, arm loose which would hinder recoil/cycling? And then switched to a more “powerful” recoil producing cartridge, enough to cycle the slide even though the shooter continued to use the same stance, weak grip and loose arm? I don’t know all the in’s and out’s of reloading, ballistics, etc; but a heavier bullet with “X” amount of powder will produce more recoil than a lighter bullet using the same “X” amount of powder, correct? And adding more powder to the lighter bullet will produce more recoil, right? I see that there are several bullet grain weights of .22 ammo, so I am assuming that there are also different powder grain weights too. So by switching to a more powerful cartridge, this perhaps would have overcome an improper stance.
And for those that reported problems no matter what ammo they used? Well, I don’t know. Are they perhaps just using really bad (shooting) form? That not said as a slight, just as a possibility.

A .45 or .44 mag with their lusty recoil will cycle/function even with the loosest, sloppiest grip. Heck, you could hang it off a finger and fire it and they’d still work (cycle). But the little .22? Perhaps it needs some help in this case (P22). Shooters, are you using a correct stance, grip, etc. when firing the P22? If not, for those that have had problems, next time you shoot your P22 make a conscious, deliberate effort to use a firm grip, and lock your arm and wrist. And I’d then be interested to know if the same problems are experienced. As I say, when I get mine I’ll be able to test this idea/theory myself.

I read with interest (almost) all the post’s about this little pistol. All the praise and complaints, problems with feeding, cycling, magazines, roughness, etc. But nowhere did I see mention of using a good shooting stance with firm grip and arm locked out. Could this then be the problem?

Submitted for your consideration and as food for thought.

Regards,

Mark

I have a p22 and the I need a # 1 front sight, also the back sight is very loose. Has any one else had this as a problem. If so what did you do.
Thanks

I purchased the p22 for for my 6 year old daughter in september. First off the seller gave me a brick of cci blazer with the sale (nib weapon). Needless to say that ammo jammed every round and i was pissed that i had payed for the firearm. After reading the finer print in the owners manual it stated that only high velocity ammo should be used in the gun. So i got a brick of winchester X and haven't had a jam load failure anything since then. My daughter has put roughly 5,000 winchester X rounds through this weapon with no problem. The rear sight did walk after a few hundred rounds but the Walther laser sight eliminates the need for the mechanical sights and is priced right (59.99). My friends and family have fired this gun and all have had a blast with it so i would recomend it to anyone.

My wife had problems with the magazine dropping out while shooting. She was pulling on the bottom of the trigger and hitting the release on the left side. She is a right handed shooter and uses her trigger finger to release the mag on the right side. So I took the mag release off and shave the left side down with a dremel tool and reblued to match. Problem solved. I left enough on the left side it could still be used with a little effort.

i posted twice recently. let me boil it all down for you:

1 get the pistol serial number beginning with N
2 get the magazines with serial ending with A
3 use only 38 grain or better ammo. 40 grain is choice, doesnt matter if it is brick or valuepack
4 learn to use the little plastic shim for field re-assembly right away, it is easy and indispensible.

if you follow these rules, and you are realisitic, you will NOT be dissapointed. it is what it is, a cheap fun shoot that is arguably deadly. sorry you had to go through 2000 posts to find this simple guideline. enjoy-

Recently bought a P22 but have not tried it yet. From some of the comments I would probably have not purchased---as I have numerous other 22 guns--everything from small American Arms revolvers to heavy Ruger, Colt and Smith & Wesson target models. For a all time carry gun my favorite is a S & W mdel 340 357 with high viz sights. At 12 oz it is lightweight and packs a punch on both ends. Not for target as after 10 to 15 rounds your hand starts to bruise. Has ore kick than a 50 Desert Eagle or that matter a 2-1/2" custom model 29 in 44 mag with hot hand loads.

Purchased N-serial P-22. Disassembled, lubed, reassembled and took to range. Fired approximately 150 rounds of differing types of ammo. About 6 misfeeds and ejection hangups, no failures to fire. Most of the misfeeds/eject problems with CCI Stingers. Suspect the longer brass may be problem?? Aguila Supermax had one misfeed. Aguila SSS cycled well but were very inaccurate. CCI Minimag and Velocitor cycled without problem and produced the best groups.

Brought the weapon home and broke it down for cleaning. Noticed that the screw labeled in the manual as #4/5 ("stove bolt") just to the rear and above the trigger lock on the right side of frame was G-O-N-E! Can't find it - may be laying on the range. Anyone else have this problem? Guess I'll have to order a new one!

Fun and accurate gun to shoot - definitely particular with its ammo.

Additional note: to those of you who think a .22 LR is plenty for self defense... Yes, a .22 will kill efficiently when shot placement is PERFECT. A Mossad or CIA assassin would have the advantage of unparalleled training and the element of SURPRISE. They use the .22 as an OFFENSIVE weapon!! In a defensive situation, you must consider that you will be under extreme duress, adrenaline spiked, tunnel vision setting in, etc. Roughly 80 percent of shots fired by cops (and I've been one for 10 years, SWAT, Range Officer, etc...)in shooting incidents MISS the target! Most of those cops are fairly well trained as well! Those few rounds you MAY hit the attacker with should be of a sufficient size / velocity so as to make as much difference as possible. Is there any one magical caliber?? No - it is personal preference, whatever works for you. Shot placement still makes all the difference.

A short story for you:

A friend of mine (on duty) was attacked by a knife-wielding assailant. He fired approximately 5 rounds from his Glock 21 with 230-grain +P rounds at a range of less than 20 feet (as he was "back-pedaling" away from the rushing bad guy). He doesn't recall using his sights - you won't either when the crap hits the fan! He hit the bad guy twice, once in the lower abdomen and once in the scrotum. Neither round put the guy down right away - it took half a minute or so for him to lose some blood before he weakened and toppled over. That was with a "hot" .45 load! Imagine if he had been hit with a .22 - probably wouldn't have even slowed him down.

So... carry what you will. But don't count on having that rock-steady aim which you have on the range when you find yourself in a life-or-death situation! And if you choose to carry that P-22 for self-defense: If you don't hit that attacker in a "quick incapacitation" area (head, heart, upper part of spine, etc) he will be able to fight you for a LONG while before his .22 wounds will take him out of the fight.

(my off duty concealed carry is a Sig P239 with 125 grain .357 Sig Gold Dot Hollowpoints: 500+ ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle)

good shooting

I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A P22 WITH A "N" IN THE SERIAL NUMBER EVRYWHERE AND CANT FIND ONE. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS?

I DISCOVERED THROUGH MY SEARCHING FOR A P22 WITH THE PREFIX "N" IN THE SERAIL # THAT ONLY THE EXTENDED BARREL MODELS HAVE THIS. I DONT WANT THE EXTENDED BARREL SO I THINK IM JUST GONNA GET ONE THAT HAS THE "A" SUFFIX ON THE MAG.

I HAVE HAD MY P22 FOR 2 YEARS NOW, AND I LOVE IT. I HAVE THE 87MM BARREL VERSION WITH THE BLACK FRAME, AND IT IS THE BEST 22 PISTOL I'VE EVER OWNED(ASIDE FROM THE 22 CONVERSION FOR MY COLT 1911) I AGREE THAT IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST CHOICE FOR A DEFENSIVE WEAPON, BUT IT WOULD STILL PUT A STOP ON SOMEBODY IN A PINCH. I SHOOT CCI MINI MAGS OR BETTER, AND LET ME TELL YOU, THEY DO A NUMBER ON A MILK JUG FULL OF THICKLY MIXED JELLO(REDNECK BALLISTIC JELATIN).

Hi
I purchased a P22 black 5" w/fake comp (barrel weight)when they first hit the market. Serial # starts with B magazines end with 44 no letters. I've fired about 3000 to 4000 rounds thru it. No pins coming out, barrel nut stays tight, magazines don't fall out. I read the manual so I didn't have any problems taking it apart or putting it together. I admit it's not as easy as a P99 etc. but I have a SIG GSR 45 auto try putting the trigger block back in after you take it apart and you'll think the P22 is fantastic. I fire Winchester Super X and I don't have any more feed problems than any other semi-auto I fire 300 to 500 times in one day. I'm 61 so I can't see a can at 150 ft but at 7 yds rapid fire I can make a 2 inch target dot into a 2 inch hole.
I do oil it about every 100-200 rounds lock the slide back, turn the gun over and put a drop on the exposed slide, turn it up right a drop on the slide inside the ejector port, a drop on the barrel in front of the slide then close the slide and put a drop on the barrel hood. I do the same with my three 45 autos. Dry semi-autos do not function very well after a few hundred rounds. The P22 is fun to shoot and very accurate and everyone I have had shoot it likes it. If you are going to shoot in the Olympics don't buy a P22.
I have a P99 in 9mm and just purchased a G22 and they both function great and very accurate(on the G22 only put 9 rounds in the 10 round mag.)
I really didn't imagine someone buying a P22 for self defense. I guess if you're a person who can get awakened abruptly at two in the morning half asleep in the dark or semi-dark adreline pumping and shoot the intruder in the eye or behind the ear it's great. I personally prefer my Sig ST 45 auto with night sights.

i was interested in buying a silencer for my p22 but i have heard that it is impossable where i live in missouri, if you think you might know how i can get one please let me know, thanks so much.

I originally bought the 'deluxe' P22 which came with both barrels and the 'compensator' weight. I walked from the cash register right into the range with my new gun in its fancy carbon-fiber carry case and loaded up 10 rounds to shoot through the short barrel as it was already set to go in that configuration. The gun jammed 4 times in the one mag, I was in utter disbelief, so I brought the store manager in to watch (after all, this thing was made in Germany...). I fired one more shot that cycled fine. Then, on the next shot, the gun simply exploded. Yes, the brand new Walther P22 EXPLODED IN MY FACE. Most of the debris hit me since the manager was standing over my shoulder. ALWAYS wear eye protection!
He only got some splatter on his face since he was behind me. My face and forearms were covered in grit and powder. A small piece of something was stuck in my cheek, but came out easily enough in the bathroom and there was not any bleeding.
The slide stayed on the frame, but the slide lock spring blew out through the side of the frame and jammed it permanently. The gun had scorch marks on it and was a smoking mess.
The rear of the .22 shell blew apart, and we suspect that the gun somehow fired out of battery.
To make a very long story short, I was refunded my money and the gun was sent back to Walther USA.
A replacement gun was ordered. It came in and I again headed right into the store's range. Again the gun jammed at least once with each full mag. Also, the gun was so far off target that the rear sight had to be adjusted so far to port (L) that it was almost hanging off of the slide.
This gun was also sent back to Walther, and I got a third P22 from them.
This one also experienced several jams (only the early P22's are supposed to need high-velocity only ammo).
I sent it back, they ground the hammer and polished it and sent it back again.
It still was not 100% reliable, so I fixed it myself.
How? I took apart all 5 mags and dried them out. I then VERY carefully stretched the mag springs just a bit, then sprayed the followers with Remington Dri-Lube dry Teflon lubricant.
I cleaned the gun, dried it completely, then used the Remington Dri-Lube to lube the gun as well.
Dri-Lube is the best stuff around for guns (Except for Berettas), and I use it in my door locks, etc... anywhere I don't want to get oil all over myself.
My Glocks all run great on Dri-Lube, as does my HK USP, AR-15's, Colt Pocketlites, Ruger MK II, modified Beretta 21A, etc.
I bought the P22 to enjoy with my registered suppressor (silencer). It looked like a lot of fun, was small, light and inexpensive, and was a true double action .22. Most importantly to me, it was GERMAN MADE. You would be hard-pressed to find a people more able and skilled at making the best firearms in the world. I fully expected this to be the most reliable .22 one could find.
I am happy to say that my third P22 now works great after I fixed it myself. My Glock's Insight Tech M6 will slide onto the rail, but will fall off after a 5 or so shots since it won't lock on. No big deal, it's just a fun gun.
However, if I heard someone scratching at the back door in the middle of the night, the silencer would be on my Ruger MK II with the Lasergrips activated (as a quiet compliment to my Glock 19, of course).
Why would the silencer be on my Ruger MK II? Because it has NEVER failed to fire or cycle EVER, no matter what kind of ammo or how dirty the Dri-Lubed gun was!
I can now finally enjoy my little P22, but for utter reliability, I still use my big, heavy American-made Ruger MK II (bead-blasted stainless, very sharp!)
As a side note, I own several silencers, and Gemtech and Advanced Armament make the best ones available anywhere.
I have since started my own company, you can find links to both of these fine suppressor companies at the bottom of my site: www.jupiter-arms.com
Enjoy your sport and keep safe!
Rad

Just picked up a P22 long barrel model with an "N" serial number and "A" on the magazine....haven't shot it yet but I am anxious....I have taken into account all the comments about the care and feeding of the P22 and have chosen ammo accordingly.

I don't see it as a defensive arm.....I'll rely on my .45 or .357 Magnum for that....mostly as a plinker. But in a pinch if it's all you have....rule #1 for being in a gunfight - have a gun!

Hi!

Keep talking!

JS from Finland

I really love the looks of this gun and it feels great in my hand, but after reading some of these posts, I almost felt like changing my mind. once I got about halfway through, though, it seemed that the Walther company had fixed most of the major problems. Is this assumption correct? If I buy a new gun in January 2005, would the gun be a dud or not??

Well, I'm a West Texas boy my self, and in my young days, I would take deer at 75 to 100 yards with a .22lr. Ruger 1022 and MKI were the only fire arms this little 7 year old had back then. So let me say this, a .22 is perfect for defence, if you can use it. It don't matter how big the bullet is, if it hits a vital organ your still dead. Point in case, go to the Texas Trophy Hunters web site, you'll see that out here we prefer the hot rod 22's over the 7 and 300 mags. One last thing, I bought a P22 for my dauther, it was a weight issue being lighter than the MK II I wanted to get her. Anywas she has put more than 5000 rounds through it with no problems. I do make her breaking it down and clean it after every use, which helps alot. Anyway food for thought, dont let anyone convence you one cal. or make is better than the other. If you like it, and it fits your hand, then with some practice you can hit anything you aim at.

Does the 5" inch make it more a accurate then the 3.4" if so how much?

I bought a 3.5 barrel and a slide for my P22 on ebay from a germen company. monday the BATF came to my house and took them. They said I broke the customs law for not filling out a form 6

I dont really think that this gun was made as a primary carry weapon, i think that what Walther actually had in mind to start out with was a BACKUP to your standard carry piece. i think you actually get MORE for your money than it seems with these things.great little pistols with a wide variety of accessories available. cant go wrong for the price. great little plinker, and a great little backup weapon, JUST in case.

be sure in the near future to check out the absolute BEST new firearms auction site around www.armsbay.net. were in the process of setting it up, but i think when its done, youll all agree it will be the best on he net, hands down

I just bought a P22 limited edition. I have 450 rounds through it, and no jams.

Remmington 40gr copper plated bullets: 0/250 jams 4/250 no fire, 2/4 no fire after recycled in a revolver.

Winchester 40gr Wild Cat lead bullets: 0/200 jams, 0/200 no fires.

I am glad I bought it. I found it easy to disassemble and reassemble, using included rod.

Good fun at the range.

IVE BEEN WANTING TO GET A WALTHER P22 FOR A LONG TIME (MY EXPECTATIONS ARE REALISTIC ABOUT THE USEFULLNESS OF THE GUN!!!)BUT WHEN I WENT DOWN TO THE SHERRIFS OFFICE TO GET MY PERMIT I WAS DENIED BECAUSE OF SOME RUFF STUFF WHEN I WAS A YOUNGER MAN THEN I AM RIGHT NOW. BOY WAS I BUMMED OUT. ANYWHOO, POINT IS; IF YOU LIKE OWNING HAND GUNS BEST STEER CLEAR OF ANY TROUBLE THAT COMES YOURE WAY!!!(SORRY FOR THE TYPOS!!)

Just got a P22 today, fired a hundred rounds of the cheep Remington LR hi-speed crap with no problems. Gun feels good in the hands, well balanced and all that. I think it would function well as a self-defense weapon, unless the attacker was high on something dope, like speed or coke. The rounds pop off quickly enough to stop most any human, don't you agree? A quality German pistol in my opinion. My accuracy has never been remarkable, but it was even farther off with this particular peice, adding to it's up-close self defense bonus. PEACE!!
--Chase

You must use at least 40 grain ammo to reduce the p22 from hanging up. I had the same problems you discribed with winchester Xpert brick ammo but Federal 40 grain cycles perfectly until the gun gets really dirty. Also the sights needed alot of attention before the accuracy became consistant.
I buy guns I like not guns I need, Its a fun gun with alot of options.

I purchased my P22 about 3months ago and did experience a few problems with the less expensive ammo but I just finished my last box 0f 500 out of 5000 stingers and experienced absolutely no problems.
What I am trying to find is 10+ magazines because there looks like there is plenty of room for more rounds.
If anyone has any idea of where I can find a few I'd be grateful.By the way,I did have the misfortune to have to shoot a wild dog (a feral chow mix I think) while hiking DEEP in the mountains backpacking and this est. 130 lb. beast dropped like rock with one head shot while running right at me.
The Results were amazing for a rim fire. I definitely would not want to be shot with this weapon and believe it to be adequate for self defense; Of course not as powerful as my brand new GLOCK 19 for concealed carry.

This gun is AWESOME!!! I have fired more than 1500 rounds and not even had to clean it and no JAMS! I have not cleaned it because the dealer said to wait till it would not fire!! This w/e I plan another 1500 rounds!

patrck

I'm 18 so i have to have my mom buy me this gun but I plan on buying this gun due to a few reasons. I live in vermont where its legal to carry a concealed pistol without a permit, and you are alowed to have a pistol on you as young as 16.(21 to buy pistol ammo, but this is rifle ammo so i can buy it at 18). i go stream fishing alot where in some areas you don't see houses more miles. And with the threat of rabies(animals crave water when in the final stages of rabies, ive even seen a racoon drown itself) and posibbly the crazy hick. Plus i love to target shoot.

I was looking at ruger mkII but they diddn't look pretty and they were alot larger and wern't as easy to carry. better accuracy yeh but i rather have the better looks and you can't beat all the tactical crap you can get for a p22. plus i could always pick up the 5'' barrel.

As for this not being a good self defence weapon? i have seen many many cases where a .22 has been used to defend or kill, and used successfully. It may not have the stoping power but a few .22 shots will take down most. And with a higher caliber handgun you sacrifice being able to plink(unless your rich)plus most people see the gun the confrontation stops so no need to shoot anyways. Overall it seems a good multipurpose gun.

As for jams, it hapens with any gun maybe more so with a .22 since its a smaller, cheaper, less powerful bullet. Whitch means quantity is over quality with more brands of .22 bullets. so of coarse it will have problems here and there.

i bring an update later.

I have the 3.4" and 5" versions. Both feed, shoot and eject any ammo I have used. My 5" has a problem with the safety lever dropping down into safety while shooting. I prefer my 3.4 " pistol. I just put on my 1/2" x 28 adapter so I can attach an AAC Pilot suppressor which I will be picking up in February. Neither gun has target grade accuracy, but are accurate enough. I installed the Walther scope mount with a red dot scope for shooting inside or low light conditions. www.machinegun.com for adapters.

im stupid.. hello! i like this gun.. im a dumbface!! teehee! thats how you guys sound

well i got the gun today and it was cheaper than i thought, there was a 20% discount. so it only cost $171.00. plus i had a $30 voucher so the total was $151.00 it serial starts will L, and the mag ends in an A. it came with no case or accessories. but i picked up a nice plano box for 6.00
shot a bunch of rounds in it with no problems.

I carry a Glock 26 everyday , and bought the
G22 as an inexpensive training tool. It has
performed flawlessly, and I was'nt aware of
any ammo issues.I shoot Remington .22 in the
550 box, and of over 1000 rounds fired, I've
had one dud.Occasionaly my index finger hits
the mag release when I pull the trigger.Over
all, I'm pretty impressed.

I am thinking of buying a P22 becasue I love the way they feel and the way they look. I have read mixed reviews about this gun and am not sure I should get it. People either really love it or really hate it. Can anyone out there help me out in deciding what to get? thanks

Have a P22 with both barrels. Gun groups well but still shoots low w/ the #2 site. Any suggestions?

I am looking for FACTORY subsonic ammo for my H&K 40Cal USP. I got some thru Shooters News(private party) but the gun would not cycle. Looking for FACTORY rounds. Anybody have a lead for me? THANKS!

Love the Walther but,I recently returned my P22 to Walther due to a variety of problems occurring with the gun. Problems included misfeeds, not ejecting spent cases, stovepipes, damage to the inside of the slide, and the magazine dropping out of the gun when fired. Walther called me back and sent a brand new gun.

I just got back from the range tonight and from what I can tell the gun does not like the cold weather and using different kinds of ammuntion does not help. The gun again misfed and the magazine dropped from the bottom of the new gun. Bad luck? or manufacturing? Has anyone else had this problem with the P22? So far customer service has been good.

I just bought the nickel 3.4" edition tonight, but I'm having trouble. could someone walk me through taking this gun apart! i can't seem to release the takedown lever. it just says to press down.. I push in on it, and pull down and off, but it doesn't move. help

I just bought a P22, and I love it. I have kind of small hands and the grip just fit like a glove. I think it's a fun choice.

The gun performs perfectly when cleaned correctly and quality high velocity ammo is used. The manual says to clean the action, the magazine lips, follower, and the reciever, which are vital in keeping the gun in top shape. Get the soot off the mag. lips and apply some good gun grease, the gun will be perfect. 6,000+ rounds and only problems were caused by me buying cheep ammo, and not keeping the magazine lips clean.

Where can you purchase a new slide for the P22? I want a nickel plated slide, the seem to keep clean better. Please let me know.

chad,
don,t push takedown lever. just hold it and pull it down.

I had mine for 2 years and not a problem with it, regular cleaning and stuff plus I use CCI Mini-Mag. But hey good article :)

I just got a P22 today, and ran out to try it out. I had Federal red box ammo, and had no misfires but several mis-feeds out of about 75 rounds. The problem may be that the slide will catch on the top of the hammer on the way out and back in. If The slide is pulled out and slowly let back in, the slide will stop when it touches the hammer and a little tap is needed to get it to return all the way. Has anyone else had this problem?
jan/7/05

A few months ago I had been out shooting with some Army Rangers. Two of them had P22’s as a personal “fun gun.” I was impressed that they could empty a magazine as quickly as they did with a 22 rim fire, with out any problems. (Kinda made the Mossberg 500, that I was shooting look rather boring... lol) So needless to say the week I turned 21 I bought my own P22. I’ve only had the chance to put about 300 rounds down the barrel before I moved to Korea where personal guns are outlawed for military personnel. Regardless I did not have one misfire or jam. Note: I used CCI Stingers (a “hot” round) as you should with any auto loading 22 rim fire. Anyone one that has problems with misfires and what have you; before you take the gun back, dig a little deeper in your pocket to find the extra 55 cents to buy better ammunition. I would suggest this pistol to anyone who’s looking for a relatively cheap fun cool looking plinker for the range. 4 out of 5 stars only because it’s to pretty to beat up, unlike my Mossberg 500 lol.

I went to several gun shops 1-7-05 looking at several types of pistols and I seen the p22 and all most bought one, but thats not like me I like to get some feed back from people, or check it out on the net. so last night I got on here and seen all the negative things more negative than good , so this morning I went 65 mile to a large gun store and they had the color I liked,
it felt very good in my hand 300.00 dollars worth
came home went to a gun range and I shot about 100 rounds, I was very very impressed and I could
not beleave how accurate it was, if you can hold on it will hit where you aim, the guy next to me at the gun range was shooting a ruger 2245 he ask what I was shooting and he would like to try it, so I said sure loaded it for him and he loved it he shot better with the p22 than his ruger 2245, all I can say I was very pleased, and for all the people out there with a negative
things to say, get good ammo thats # 1 . and the second thing is learn to clean your guns and they will preform.
the p22 is awsome for the size and accuracy and the cost there not much out there that can match it dollar for dollar.....

i like this gun it fires well and i have killed many animals with it and i agree that it could be more alittle more accurate

I just bought my p22 before christmas and i have put many rounds through it and i need to know the best brand name ammo for my gun because it keeps jamming. Please let me know. If you know a good brand let me know at meatwad_0@hotmail.com

I received a Walther P22 (3.5") this Christmas. I now have 7 .22 cal. pistols (mostly old S&W J frames and K-22's with a couple of Ruger MK.II's thrown in). My P22 is incredibly accurate at 25 yards when I shoot Federal copper clad hollow points thru it. None of my .22's like digesting any straight lead bullet. Alot of mess to clean up!!

Don't use super glue on any screw threads! You may need to remove the screws someday. Use Blue Loc-Tite instead. It holds good and will let you remove the screws.

Don't use super glue on any screw threads! You may need to remove the screws someday. Use Blue Loc-Tite instead. It holds good and will let you remove the screws.

I purchased a P22 as my first handgun after I turned 21, and I love it. I mostly use Federal Lighting ammo with no problems. I had a few jams and misfeeds for the first 100 rounds or so, but after the gun broke in I have not had a single problem. I absolutely love the way this gun shoots it is super smooth. It is now my favorite gun for plinking.
I have had the same problem that JC mentioned when slowly cycling the action by hand. But it doesn't catch when I fire the gun or release the hold back tab without touching the slide.

As a side note I would stay away from Remington's Golden bullets for any firearm. I had shell casing come apart one day while I was shooting my Remington 552 rifle. I don't know if you would call it a back fire, because the the bullet came out of the casing but the end also came off. I guess they use corrosive primers of something.

I purchased a p22 with 5" barrel back in April 2004. I had some minor issues with jamming until I started using CCI Mini Mags. I have shot 2000+ rounds since with no problems.

I had a chance to fire several hunded rounds of various ammo through a P22. I didn't have many jams, only 1 or 2. It's not as accurate as I would like for a .22, but it was reasonably accurate with Wolf Match 22 and Winchester Dynapoint 40 gr. HP's. My biggest gripe was the magazine kept releasing when I fired because my thumb was putting pressure on the release when under recoil. Overall good fit and superior looks to all but a few 22s. Also the thread protector continued to work its way loose.

I had a chance to fire several hunded rounds of various ammo through a P22. I didn't have many jams, only 1 or 2. It's not as accurate as I would like for a .22, but it was reasonably accurate with Wolf Match 22 and Winchester Dynapoint 40 gr. HP's. My biggest gripe was the magazine kept releasing when I fired because my thumb was putting pressure on the release when under recoil. Overall good fit and superior looks to all but a few 22s. Also the thread protector continued to work its way loose.

I just bought a P22 and wanted to take it apart - is there a trick to getting the takedown lever to go down?

I have recently received my 5" P22 and had my chance to fire it
for the first time yesterday.I was using Remington brass plated
golden bullet value pack.They worked well , one miss fire per
three hundred rounds at rapid fire and no jamming problems at all.
One thing I am suspicious of is the slight movement of the sableizer at the end of the five inch barrel ,even though I've made sure the mounting fasteners are nice and tight.The gun does shoot fairly straight.
This gun is brand new and I am taking action to getting this part replaced and considering shorter barrel for cosealability.
Any comments ?

re: P-22, i am still having mixed results with "N" serial, "A" magazines. bought used at a gun show for $219 w one mag. purchased four other A series mags. have fired appx 5000 rounds to date.

good points: smith and wesson support has been excellent.
they have furnished a new hammer, hammer spring, safety key, 4 large stabilizer allen screws, and barrel nut wrench, quickly and w/o charge.
can consistently place 10 rounds in three to five inch groupings at 50'. can't see well enough to do better but gun seems to be much more accurate than my abilities.
great looking, easy to load, tactical stuff available, easy to clean and i have no problem reassembling slide spring even without the guide rod my kit didn't have or the key or the wrench or the extra magazine. suggest you go to a dealer to see what should come with your gun purchase before going to a gun show and then bargain accordingly. in fact i recommend you buy the gun new from a local, reputable dealer.

from reading this blog it seems there are a variety of opinions on this gun, some have no problems, others have plenty. some recommend an "N" serial like mine to solve problems. following are my comments on experiences with my p-22;

1. most ammunition works reasonably well but expensive brands work no better than cheap ones. cci stingers won't load or eject from mine,

2. when the slide does not hang up it has failed to chamber only one round in appx. 5000 (stingers excepted)

3. the slide originally hung up on the hammer tip just in front of the safety roll bar. this in combination with energy required to strip a new round from the magazine caused 20 to 30% ftfeed

4. polish the hammer and round the top edge slightly to alleviate this problem, round too much and the slide won't cock the hammer then S&W will have to send you a new hammer also.

5. this almost alleviated all of my slide hang ups.

6. i stretched the mainspring 1/4" longer for increased strength, this has eliminated slide hang up on mine 100%. stretch it too much and the slide probably won't cycle. go slow and test.

7. mine has never had an ejection failure while shooting although when operating the slide manually it is easy to depress the rear of the extractor with your finger causing the front of the extractor to lift slightly. this will disengage the extractor mechanism. use the front grooves when operating the slide to manually extract a shell.

8. shoot it enough and the barrel nut will come loose, plenty of times mine hasn't and plenty of times it has although tightened very tight each time. a small amt of theadlock can be used but what a pain.

9. the two allen sockets are shallow on the stabilizer screws and will round out very easily even with proper placement, size and torque of the allen wrench. 5" barrel only, suggest you call S&W and order some extras now.

10 the small stove bolt holding the two sideplates together won't stay tight even w threadlock.

11. an M6 tactical light/laser won't stay in place due to the catch bar not reaching the p-22's groove, but what a system. the stabilizer can be modified to accept this unit (5" barrel) but Walther could make it work with a factory groove in the stabilizer.

12. ammunition problems, this seems to vary with each gun. for mine; remington viper, 36 gr left lead fragments all over the chamber and required immediate cleaning, cci stingers wouldn't feed with any dependability and wouldn't eject either. velocitors worked fine as did rem 36 gr cyclones, federal 40 gr classics and winchester 37 gr high velocity. Rem bulk yellow jackets had a high incidence of duds. Federal 40 gr bulk lead or copper clad both fire as dependable as any so why spend more? i.e. i shot 750 rounds this evening with o ftl, o fte and 17 ftf. fifteen of the rounds that failed to fire did fire on the second hammer fall and two would not fire at all until rotated in the chamber where they then fired the first time. i don't know why this is but i will say that in the early to mid sixties i seem to remember paying appx the same amt for a brick as i do today, $6.00. thanks for keeping the price down but i would spend another dollar for reliable ammunition as this seems to be where the problem is. some might consider 17 duds out of 750 good but it would keep me from picking a 22 for a carry weapon.
13. finally a problem that really has me concerned. one blogger reported over 10,000 rounds fired and still going strong. i keep this gun reasonably clean and lubricate with remington spray every 250 rounds or so. i have disasembled and cleaned thouroughly 8 or 10 times and lubricate the slide and hammer with a high grade gun grease, yet there is a lot of wear on my slide. it can be rocked back and forth and lifts appx. 12 - 15 thousanths of an inch when pushing the hammer back. are we sure the slide is made of steel, it looks like an alloy to me. i looked at new models and they have no play, other used models seem to have plenty of slide wear. 10,000 rounds is not many. will have to discuss this with S&W shortly as i am beginning to experience the hammer not being cocked when operating the slide manually. a thousand rounds or so ago i did not have this problem.

the p-22 has the potential for a great gun but as of now i am having too many problems that are beyond" all it needs is cleaning, proper lubrication and good ammunition."

happy shooting.

Kurt, if the allen screws are tight, your stabilizer is moving because the barrel nut is loose. remove the stabilizer and tighten the barrel nut with the spanner provided in your kit. keep an eye on this as it seems to be a routine problem many have even after properly tightening the barrel nut. safe shooting.

Connie, if you haven'f figured it out by now then simply grasp the take down lever between finger and thumb and pull straight down. it does not come off the gun but simply drops appx. 3/8 inch to allow the slide to be moved rearward sufficiently to dis engage the slide grooves. you can then lift the rear of the slide and slide it forward over the barrel. the stabilizer must be removed first on the 5" model

just in case someone wants to contact me my e-mail is raphaelarango@yahoo.com

regarding previous recently posted comments, did talk to S&W customer service regarding slide wear. was surprised to hear they think 5000 rounds is a lot of shooting. seems we use the same grease and was told they could make me a really good deal on a new slide if mine wears out. of course i would think the side piece slide components would be worn out also. i'm not so sure this is going to be that inexpensive. by the way a gun magazine article somewhere near this site under walther p-22 states the slides are steel. they are not, they are an alloy as i expected from the wear i'm seeing.

does anyone have a good source for the walther laser site that fits in front of the trigger guard. i haven't been able to find a source.

has anyone had any experience/recommendations regarding red dot type scopes. appreciate your comments

while my pistol has never failed to eject, it will throw hot brass and hit me right between the eyes occasionally. anyone know how to correct that?

finally, among some of the new and free stuff S&W sent me was a new slide spring which was one half inch longer than my original. the gun still cycles perfectly except for failure to cock the hammer two times out of 200 rounds due to slide wear.

Hi every body I was not so sure abpout the P22 but after reviws here I decide to get it currently I have a 9mm S&W a 38 Rossi 6 shoots and a 38 Davis Dual barrel 2 shoots special edition.
the one I always carry on my belt is the Davis 38 bcz of the size and the S&W on my shoulder or on my knee as a backup just i case for self defense the 38 is not enough but I will get the P22 bcz to be honest with I'm in love with 22 weapons bcz of the size and features. I get a shoot last yer on my knee with a 38 and to be honest with you thanks god it was a 38 and not a 22 otherwise I will be F&%$ up bcz the 38 get close to my popliteal_vein and if it was a 22 it will go trough that vein so. so far as I have understood a 22 well used is better then a 9m or 45 or any other hughe weapon.

My P22 is serial no "L" and mags end in "A". I have fired 800 rounds so far and no screws have worked loose nor has the barrel nut worked loose. Ammo results are as follows: (Qty. 200)CCI Mini Mags-Flawless performance. (Qty. 200) CCI Mini Mags Hollow Point-Flawless performance. (Qty. 200) Winchester Wildcat-2 times the slide did not cycle back far enough to strip the next round from the magazine. (Qty. 200) Remington Golden Bullet-Had 1 misfire where pin hit the rim very hard but shell would not fire and 1 time the shell only fed half way into the chamber. All of this ammo is "High Velocity" and as far as accuracy the pistol shoots where I point it. I would not hesitate to carry this pistol but I will have CCI Mini Mags in the magazine! If you just want to plink shoot the wildcats or some other cheap stuff. A couple of short cycles is not that big of a deal when you're just plinking. I enjoy shooting this little pistol more than any pistol I have ever owned.

Bought my P22 last weekend at a gun show in Houston.It's an L series with a A mag.It's new and cost $229.00. Made in Germany in Jan 05. Same problem with old Rem Golden Shells .No problems with CCI SGB [small game bullet].You can hear and feel the difference.

ran 300 more rounds through cci rem no problem
love my p22

Can the CCI sub-sonic rounds cycle the slide of a P22? How about Eley Extra? Can't seen to find CCI Minimags where I live. These two are the cheaper ones available, in addition to HV 22lr ammo made by ARMSCOR. CCI Stingers are available but a bit expensive.

I purchased mine about 2 weeks ago... maybe 3 anyways its been fun since I have owned mine! I have shot about 1000 rounds of Mini Mags through it, w/ No problems at all. Stingers seem to jam up a little because the casing on the stingers are longer than a normal 22 lr, they also get crimped when ejected. I have no problems what so ever w/ Velocitors, in fact those are my favorite bullets to shoot in it.

I have only had 1 problem w/ "Golden Bullet" bulk packs from walmart I have shot maybe 300 rounds through mine and have had just an ejection problem because the load was not "hot" enough to cycle the slide back all the way to pick up the next round.

Other than that, clean it after your done w/ it, and you will be good to go.

BTW I have the 5 inch barrel version, nickle.

I love mine, so much I put its big brother on lay away and am getting a p99 .40 s&w!!!!

Cant wait for that!

I just bought a P22 and was wondering, other than a longer barrel, if there was anything i could do to make it more accurate

I've had my supresssed (Gemtech Supressor, nice) P22 for about a year.

Opinions: it is VERY ammo sensitive. As I want a quiet round I typically shoot Remington Subsonics, which cycle the gun perfectly, and work great. Aguila Subsonics are so bad in the P22, that I donated the two bricks I had to the local shooting club.

Don't even THINK about the Aguila Subsonics with no powder. They never cycle the gun, and the ejector usually fails to even grab them. When I need needle nose pliers after every round, we have a problem.

Aguila Hyper Velocity rounds ROCK. Loud but damn, they are a sweet round in that gun.

As far as a great plinking gun fo the backyard with a silencer, and the right ammo, great. But defense? Ridiculous. I carry a Les Baer 1911 or HK P7M8 for defense...need I say more? B)

If you're small, get a Glock 26 or 27. If you cant handle a 9mm, you really should consider a Seecamp or other "point blank" gun, because even with basic skills, you point a 22 at an armed assailant, and he'll be changing mags and stepping over you before you can aim the thing. 22s are mouse guns compared to more appropriate self-protecion piece. Thouh I LOVE my 1911's, I consder H&K's P7M8 the finest carry gun made. YMMV.

Back to the P22...the tolerances are very loose, and I have to clean it daily if I want it to function smoothly.

I would NEVER carry it for defense. For the same money I'd buy a used Glock 17, 19 or 23 and feel a LOT safer. If recoil is an issue, get a 19.

The P22 is a lotta fun though. B) Accuracy? P22 are plenty accurate (even silenced, I shoot 1" groups from 25 yards)....just practice a lot. [I plink 150 a day in the woods behind my house)

/droop

Luis B. from Uruguay has enlightened me about the misfeeds and ejection problems.

If you buy ammo that comes lubricated or lubricate your ammo before using your misfire and ejection problems will go away guaranteed. As soon as I statred using Sellier & Belliot ammo, which is greasy and sticky I did not have a misfire again, not one in 1000 rounds. The gun will be dirty as hell but it will keep on firing. Unbelievable!

I love this little gun but is underpowered for self defense. I asked Walther about rechambering for .25 or .32, in the same frame, not to avail.
Any ideas?

There seems to be a lot of people defending the Walther P22 lately on this post. I have one, and I do not recommend it.

In fact, I always google on "walther p22 feed problems" to find Les' site so I can read the latests blogs.

When I was young, I had a very old JC Higgins .22LR pistol and I remember great times (and no mis-feeds) with that.

It just seems to me that with all the technology in the world, they could make a reliable mechanism for feeding 22 bullets (even with the different charge levels.)

And if the gun needs a break in period using higher power rounds, why doesn't Walther at least address the issue on their site or in their manual?

Kyle...I have several thousand CCI Mini Mags through my P22 and have had 0 problems. No misfeeds, no misfires, no stove pipes. In fact the first time out of the box I ran 500 straight without cleaning and had no problems. CCI Mini Mags might be the answer?

I recently purchased a P22 to be my backup. I have fired over 900 rounds through it with NO problems. I like it because I can clip an "inside the pants" holster inside my ballistic vest and it is comfortable.

To those that poo-poo the .22 in a defensive role...Look, 1 .22 round in my body is 1 more than I want. With the P22, if I need it, I know I can put 10 rounds in my adversary in a wink. THAT gives me time to disengage and retreat.

My duty weapon is a Taurus 24X7 in .45ACP. But, I carry the P22 offduty sometimes because it is light and is better than not carrying at all.

The reality of the "caliber bigots" is that if you can hit your target in a high stress situation, it really doesn't matter what you shoot.

TTFN

Semper Fi

I have a "Limited Edition" P22 that i bought in May of last year. I like it so much, it handles great, but I dont like the 5 inch barrle very much because the front peice doesnt stay stait.I would like to get a silencer for it. My gun has had a few jams,2 missfiers and a few stovepipes (because of bad ammo)

The ammo that I like is "REMMINGTON" 22 rounds. They come in a box of 525 or smaller. I think it is the best round for it.

im looking for a gun at the moment as a starter gun and would like to know if it is worth getting the walther p22. but reading the post's i have seen that it has had many problems what would you recammend?

It seems that many people think nothing short of 7mm is acceptable for self defense, after nearly 30 years of dealing with lead plugged bodies I can attest to the killing power of a 22. Most body shots I have seen in self defense are closer than 25'. A shot in the leg or arm are not impressive but anything above the belt stops or kills. I have seen more people talk to me after a large caliber head shot than a 22 shot. Ever hang around a butcher when they shoot cattle? they use a 22 because the bullet stays in the skull and rattles around a bit. High velocity rounds either take the skull cap off and don't do as much brain damage or actually mole around the skull and exit through the scalp. Yes a large piece of lead has a shock and drop affect but I dare you to take a 22 slug and plan on walking over the shooter while re-loading.
The P22 is a nice self defence weapon because of the size and the kill effect.

I would recommend getting a p22 because it is a 22 and it has many features to it. you just have to have the right kind of ammo and would have to keep the gun well maintained but other than that it is a pretty good gun.

I bought my 5" all black P22 a few months ago and found that its picky about the ammo that you put in it. I havent had a problem with the Winchester Wildcats and CCI Minimags but it wouldnt even extract the CCI Stingers when I shot them. As far as the roll pin next to the safety switch that has a tendency to come out, I used a little bit of blue locktight and havent had a problem with it since. As far as my opinion goes, it wouldnt be my first choice for a self defense weapon but I have seen what .22lr can do and it isnt always pretty. Overall, I am happy with it and would recommend it to others and its only around $300.

ALL THESE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL. THANKS!! I WAS WONDERING THOUGH, HOW CAN I FIND THE VIDEO CLIP OF THE P22 W/ SUPPRESSOR. I CANT FIND IT ANYWHERE. THANKS

I am 17 and have minor experience with firearms. I spent a week of .22 rifle shooting (bolt action Olympic rifles dunno the brand) and a week of trap shooting, both in Boy Scouts with the proper training and safety courses. I have had a few times where I got to do trap shooting occaisionally. Seeing as how the only type of weapon I haven't fired is handgun shooting, I figured I'd get back into it.

Me and my father narrowed it down to three .22 LR guns that have equal ratings on the websites I have seen: the Ruger MKIII Hunter target pistol($400-$600), the Ruger 10/22 semi-auto rifle ($250-$350), and the Walther P22 ($270-$370). The Ruger was beautiful, shiny, and classy with a fluted barrel, rosewood grip, hi-viz fiberoptic sights, and adjustable rear sights. It's only issue is that it is heavy (although designed to be so) and expensive for the extra competetive target shooter.

The 10/22 was also beautiful with a nice price for a .22 rifle of that quality and, as I have read, rapid and extremely accurate for a low price auto-loading .22cal. Unfortunately, it is 5lbs and larger than a handgun and, although I haven't used a semi-auto rifle, I wanted a new experience.

I came down to the Walther P22 pistol and fell in love with it. My dad was very strongly opinioned about the Ruger MKIII Hunter, but he likes this one too. I plan on adding a Hi-Viz fiberoptic sight that I saw on the web and possibly eventually a scope mount and the 5" barrel extension and compensator. Thanks to this forum and others, I know which ammo and magazines to get.

My actual question here is did I make the right choice? I don't want to hunt, competetively compete in target practice, or protect myself from attackers (I'm too young and uninterested in getting any concealed weapon training) so I chose this pistol to train myself. I may not be able to check here again, so just email me at Jackis@cox.net with the subject header "P22 question". Please help out a beginning firearm shooter. Thanks for the ammo brand tips!

I am 17 and have minor experience with firearms. I spent a week of .22 rifle shooting (bolt action Olympic rifles dunno the brand) and a week of trap shooting, both in Boy Scouts with the proper training and safety courses. I have had a few times where I got to do trap shooting occaisionally. Seeing as how the only type of weapon I haven't fired is handgun shooting, I figured I'd get back into it.

Me and my father narrowed it down to three .22 LR guns that have equal ratings on the websites I have seen: the Ruger MKIII Hunter target pistol($400-$600), the Ruger 10/22 semi-auto rifle ($250-$350), and the Walther P22 ($270-$370). The Ruger was beautiful, shiny, and classy with a fluted barrel, rosewood grip, hi-viz fiberoptic sights, and adjustable rear sights. It's only issue is that it is heavy (although designed to be so) and expensive for the extra competetive target shooter.

The 10/22 was also beautiful with a nice price for a .22 rifle of that quality and, as I have read, rapid and extremely accurate for a low price auto-loading .22cal. Unfortunately, it is 5lbs and larger than a handgun and, although I haven't used a semi-auto rifle, I wanted a new experience.

I came down to the Walther P22 pistol and fell in love with it. My dad was very strongly opinioned about the Ruger MKIII Hunter, but he likes this one too. I plan on adding a Hi-Viz fiberoptic sight that I saw on the web and possibly eventually a scope mount and the 5" barrel extension and compensator. Thanks to this forum and others, I know which ammo and magazines to get.

My actual question here is did I make the right choice? I don't want to hunt, competetively compete in target practice, or protect myself from attackers (I'm too young and uninterested in getting any concealed weapon training) so I chose this pistol to train myself. I may not be able to check here again, so just email me at Jackis@cox.net with the subject header "P22 question". Please help out a beginning firearm shooter. Thanks for the ammo brand tips!

I own an 5-inch target 'N' model P22 and several 'A' model magazines. I have had general luck with the 550-round boxes of Remmington and Federal that can be found at Walmart. I did go through a box of non-jacketed Winchesters that made a mess of my gun, so I would suggest against them.

I have had failures to feed, misfires, and other problems with my gun. Though they have not been a complete hindrance to my fun, it has certainly been annoying.

I have also had trouble with the safety re-engaging between shots, and the slide is very gritty and sloppy, not smooth as it should be.

To put icing on the cake, my slide cracked. As far as I can tell, the rear rails of the slide came off the back of the pistol, and when the slide moved forward again it wedged against the trigger and bent my slide upward so that it cracked, nearly in two. If my gun were the 3.4" variant (without the fake compensator on the front) the slide would have flown off the front of the gun.

I sent it to Smith & Wesson (who has HORRIBLE customer support), since they make repairs for Walther. All they did was replace the slide and fire one test shot. I called the actual gunsmith to ask questions, and again I was given no real answers. I asked about my barrel being bent or other pieces being broken, but I was brushed off and told, "No, it was just the slide, we fixed it, you're done." Let's just say that Walther nor Smith & Wesson were concerned for my safety. They weren't even scared of a lawsuit.

Needless to say, I have enjoyed my P22 while I have had it, but this is the last straw for me. I'm taking this worthless pistol back to the gun store so that I can hopefully trade it in for a real .22LR pistol, like a Ruger 22/45. Unlike Smith & Wesson, Ruger will actually give you decent customer service.

this is for all
what do you think about the m4 carbine

found this thread and just thought id say that if your looking for a real reliable for 200 just about any of rugers 22 beat this gun. im with this guy, that new mkIII is handy as shit

I saw my first P22 at a gun show and fell in love wiht it's size, safety etc. It has features on in that are only found on more expensive handguns. (Some of these features are only now appearing on the Rugar 22, after it's many, many years on the market.) The P22 is what it is, a fun gun to shoot. I have owned a bunch of them including Rugers, Browings, Walther PPK, etc. Any and all of them have had misfires, stovepipes, failure to feed and so forth. Most of that is due to dirty or cheap ammo and/or a dirty gun. It happens. You deal with it. I trust the P22 so much that I ended up giving my first one to my daughter as her carry gun. I missed it so much that I went out and bought a new one for me.
I say to all the nay sayers: "GET OVER IT". Take proper care of your weapon and it will do the job.

Because of financial needs, I'm selling my unfired P22 for $200. Email me for info. Must go to an FFL unless in NC.

I wold like to pick one up in MD i am a hunter and i was wundering ware to pick one up pleas help me.

I've owned my "N" prefix P22 for about 2 years now. Fortunately for me I haven't had horrific problems to the same degree others here seem to have had. I consider the P22 to be a great training tool, knock-around play gun, hiking companion. My other .22 auto is a Ruger MkII that I've owned for the last 10 years and consider as my base for this comparison. The P22 has approx. 2000 rounds since new. With this said, I can say that I really like this gun - I won't say it's perfect, but my example seems to have been a nice compromise of features.

Construction:
There is no comparision between this gun and a Ruger Mk II when it comes to durability. By comparison, the stainless Ruger is a gun designed to last a thousand years and a million rounds. The Walther is much more petite & delicate. It has an alloy slide that begins to show it's age "under the hood" after about a thousand rounds - evidenced by strange metal scrapings and peenings. What does this mean? I don't know - mine hasn't blown up in my face yet but as an engineer I know vastly more durable construction when I see it. The plastic sites are quite vulnerable. The barrel construction is very light, and odd to say the least. The barrel nut/threads really does need to be degreased (alchohol) and a drop of loctite to keep the gun reliable & effective - by choosing not to do this you are simply asking for "loosened up while firing barrel" syndrome. On the plus side the barrel design puts the barrel in traction like a Dan Wesson revolver. Dan Wesson's are famously accurate and I'm sure this characteristic helps this little critter a lot in the accuracy dept.

Reliability:
Question: Does this gun jam like other .22LR pistols? Answer: Yes! but so what. Mine doesn't jam any more than my Ruger MkII. futhermore, I like it when my P22 jams because then I can see how long it takes me to clear the gun and make it ready to fire again... then reload and pump another 10 rounds into the target. The more I do this the more proficient I become at overcoming the one major design flaw that EVERY automatic pistol has the capability of sharing. Wanna keep it reliable? Stay away from heavy greased bullets. In fact they flat out get stuck and fail to extract when I use many kinds of lead nose cartridges. I've had the best luck with higher powered copper coated cartridges. The best in reliability / accuracy for me so far has been with Federal 40gr. Hi-Power (HV) Copper Plated Solids - specifically Load No. 710 I just put 500 rounds through the gun this weekend without a stoppage with that ammo. Switched to some greasy meal russian .22lr I had after expending the former and the gun jammed to a standstill in just one magazine.

Dissasembly/Assembly:
Ever take apart a Ruger MkII and try to put it back together and this P22 will seem like a piece of cake. I worked as a gunsmith for 2 years in college and had numerous MkII's come in to the shop in 5 gal. buckets as piles of parts with owners all saying the same "could you guys put this back together for me?". In my experience the P22 is easy to put back together, either with the plastic assembly rod to use as a guide or without. I can never find the plastic rod when I need it so I don't bother with it anymore. I simply hold the slide upside down in my left hand, insert the internal guide rod with spring pushed a little way up the rod through the inside muzzle end of the slide about 1.25", then I pinch that 1.25" extending through the muzzle of the slide with my fingers of my left hand. Now I'm holding the slide like a lollipop with the spring guide sticking out the front like a handle... then I guide the barrel inside the slide, wiggling the guide rod a little as I let it go and it indexes naturally inside the frame where it needs to be. While doing this I'm also pushing the slide rearward until I can lower the back down and let it all snap together. The reality is that this technique takes a few quick finger moves I probably didn't mention and is easier to watch than to explain but in practice it works and it works well. With a little practice you should be able to reassemble the slide, spring, guide and frame in about 20 seconds without tools.

The barrel question:
Mine originally came with the 5" barrel but I picked up the shorter barrel from the Walther USA distributer later on - $60. It didn't take long for me to get sick of switching barrels back and forth and to develop a preference. Removing and replacing the sites without buggering them up is not an easy thing. Nobody ever seems to address this. Switching barrels properly is not simply an allen wrenching affair. I eventually opted for the shorter barrel for the follow reasons: 1. The gun is a lot easier to dissassemble with the short barrel - no allen wrenches, "plucking" sites or lost microscopic worm screws to try to find. 2. The gun is slightly more challenging to master with the shorter barrel/site radius and I like that - I bought this gun to get back to the basics of handgun shooting... not to fantasize that it's some sort of a target pistol. 3. The difference in practical accuracy between the barrels for me was next to nill. I use a scoped 10" Ruger MkII when I really wanna get serious about hitting things. 4. The gun fits in your jeans back pocket nicely with the short barrel - no holster needed. 5. I like the gun because it weighs 1 pound loaded and is super compact - why would I want to ruin that by putting a toy compensator on it?

Personal Defense:
Let me just say this... I'd be more afraid of a cool headed marksmen with a .22 target pistol than a sideways spraying gangbanger with a 9/40 miss-a-barn. The P22 is nifty but it's not about to replace my pump shotgun or ever trusty Glocks.

Tuning:
Speaking as a gunsmith, please do not attempt to "stone" your alloy constructed pistol unless you'd seriously like to destroy it. If you absolutely can't keep your paws & tools off it, use the buffing attachments on your dremel or 1000 grit emory and stear clear of anything that resembles rock. If you can actually manage to bend the wrench putting the barrel nut on, you could probably fuck up an iron ball and there's no hope for you.

Why I like this gun:
It is modern in every sense of the word. Like it or not, this gun represents the major design trends every modern handgun manufacturer either has or is going back too... finger hook, accessory rail, double action, exposed hammer, adjustable sights, adjustable grip shape, staggered cartridge mag, trigger disengage w/o magazine, ambidextrous safety, ambidextrous mag release, on/off key lock system, hi-tech weldless magazine construction, different mag bases, lightweight polymer construction, convertable barrels, colors, darth vader approved laserbeams etc... the list goes on and on... let's suffice to say it's modern. Now, do you want to train with something that's ancient history or do you want to train with something more like what you'll be issued with down the unforseen road?... and did I mention it's cheap & easy to shoot, big fireball, hits a 12" gong at 20 yrds all day long, mild on the wallet, cycles fast as hell and just plain fun?

just my 2 cents...

I've had my p22 for 6 months and experienced the jams the first few times I shot it. I found that if I clean it and lube it up real good I don't get any jams. I normally fire about 500 rounds once a week and may experience 1 jam. It is definitely a fun gun.

i'm really glad you have had a lot of fun with your .22 but i was wondering if you might have any info on the manufacturing process of the .22

DON'T MEAN TO YELL, BUT JUST GOT A LETTER FROM DOJ CALIFORNIA ASKING ME TO RETURN MY P 22 TO S & W IN 45 DAYS OR FACE PROSECUTION. SEEMS THE BARREL THAT ALLOWS YOU TO FIT A SUPPRESSOR IS NOW ILLEGAL IN CALIFORNIA. SO S & W WILL REWORK THE GUN SO YOU CAN'T CHANGE BARRELS. ISN'T THAT NICE. ALL THAT MONEY FOR A TARGET BARREL AND TOUGH. ANY SUGGESTIONS ???

I have found an easier method for reassembly. Instead of using the included "tool" for the spring and guiderod, I simply leave it out of the fray. I place the spring on the guide rod and fully compress it. Then, I insert the guide rod into the slide. While holding the guide rod from the front of the slide, I install slide over barrel. At this point some wiggling maybe necessary to seat the guide rod, but it is still much easier than the alternative.

My wife just bought her first gun yesterday, a Walther P22.

We put 500 rounds of Federal American Eagle ammo through it. We had about 70 jams. The jams were mostly due to the slide not coming back far enough to engage the ejector and not coming back far enough to pick up the next round out of the magazine.

If you manually move the slide back and forth you can feel the backward motion of the slide being impeded by the hammer. The hammer spring is just too tight for cheap 22lr ammo, there isn't enough recoil energy to force the slide over the hammer all the time..

The only fix I can see is to shoot things like Stingers, Yellow Jackets, Velicitor or something like that.

Maybe I can get by with just Mini-Mags.. I guess I'm about to find out, since it's my wife's first gun the pressure is on to make it work 100%.

In the mean time I'm going to store the gun with the slide back over the hammer in the hope that the hammer spring will eventually compress enough to allow the gun to accept regular/cheap 22lr ammo

Follow up on my post above.

Lesson learned today... Never make a decision about a 22 handgun based on how it handles "Cheap" ammo.

We bought some CCI Mini-Mags, Remington Cyclone and CCI Stingers a few hours ago and tried the Walter P22 out again..

This little Walther is 100% with good 22 ammo.. and Remington Cyclone isn't all that expensive for 22 ammo...

This is a slick little firearm and my wife is now 100% happy with her purchase.

For carry ammo she's using stingers.

Do you have any thoughts on what to do about returning the gun to Smith and Wesson. Is this just a California thing? and what happins if the gun was brought to another state (FL.)The DOJ wants it done asap. Note: It amazes me that it is an absolute no-no to ship any fire arm in Calif. without an FFL but when the DOJ asks for it back, the U.S. mail is OK!

I am trying to find fake but realistic weapans. automatics or single shot. clip comes out and everything. can anyone help me out?

i need value one handgun walther made in germany model pp .22 lr in the lefth side inscription carl walther waffenfabrik ulm/do. modell pp .22 lr seril number is 33649lr in bery good condition meanical and finih in the raigth side imported by interarms

After 2000 rounds through my P22, I find little to dislike. There are the occasional failure to feed and one failure to eject but out of 2000 rounds I am not unhappy. Did use the dremel tool(wire brush) to polish the feed ramp. Best groups have been with mini mag, but Stingers were also good for a tight grouping. Federal and Remington bulk both work OK, but I always use jacketed rounds. The Walther laser sight is VERY nice and very easy to attach. The Glock will just have to sit it out while I have fun with the P22 ( P must stand for plinker). Although, I did get the Lasermax for the Glock Hmmm.

im am going down to buy my walther p22 this week. i have spent many hours reading this forum and even though theres a lot of bad im still gonna get it cause i know with my remington 597 ss there are problems here and there (not serious mainly because i have to manualy load low powered shot, but sometimes with highvelocity it fails to automatically load) its apart of shooting and just make you get to know your gun better. anyways i have over 2000's rounds in remington ammo and i cant shoot it were i live cause its to loud. i do have a nice range setup with a very good backstop with no houses behind it just woods. anyways i dont want to drive up to the mountains to get rid of this ammo thats why im wanting to get a silencer for the p22. which is the best to get. i shoot cci cb out of my rifle and all i hear is the hammer hitting and the the round hitting the target. will the silener make this happen with remington cyclone,thunderbolt, and golden bullets. also i called up a local gun store and they said i would have to wait 6 months to a year for this silencer. thats pathetic considering ill be dropping 500 bucks on the stupid thing then having to wait a year. is this the case with all dealers. how have any of you obtained your silencer, how much, how loud were they with high velocity. i think these silencers are a complete rip mainly casue of the 200 dollar tax but i am sure it will make my shooting experience much more pleasant. give me any info on any brands. i live in washington.

by the way when i click on the silencer video it just brings me to a page with a picture of a guy and a list of links to the right of him what do i do thanks

The waltherp22 is a fantastic little gun. It's not perfect but it works. 6000 rounds on mine and not one malfunction. Well, two rounds failing to feed cause I shoot 500 rounds a range session, neglect.

I field strip it here and get some close ups.

http://www.archive.org/details/walther_P22_6000rnd_inspection

Some have been asking about the URL for the P22 suppressor video. Try this:

http://www.autoweapons.com/gunpics/movies/hrsuppres.mpg

that silencer doesnt work that great many have told be they are as quite as bb guns. i heard echos in that videos. what brand silencer was that

The Walther is the first 22 caliber pistol to be designed along the lines of a modern military pistol. The pistol utilizes plastic, aluminum, and steel. The front sight is a series of plastic inserts that snap into place and provide sight elevation. The rear sight is adjustable for windage. The grip has a back strap insert and comes with an extra backstrap that has a slightly different shape. this provides the owner with a grip option. I first considered buying a 22 caliber conversion unit for my Glock model 17. After seeing the Walther P22, for about the same price, the choice was easy.
The only problems encountered is the barrel nut. It became loose after the first trip to the range. I disassembled the pistol and took the barrel apart. I unscrewed the nut , removed the barrel sleeve and pushed the barrel out of the frame block. I reassembled the barrel by putting the barrel in the frame block and sliding the barrel sleeve with the slot into position and rotating it making sure that the slot clicked into the index at the frame block. I used blue Loctight on the barrel threads and finger tightened the nut. Then I used the wrench to carefully tighten the nut. This should be done carefully just a slight bit of pressure. The loctight will hold the nut in place and prevent it coming loose. So don’t over tighten the nut. The front sights are easily changed. After you settle on the brand of ammunition that gives the most satisfactory groups you can fine tune the sights by installing one of the correct height that come with the pistol.
The pistol has some interesting features that are typically Walther. The safety on the slide functions like the P38 and other Walther pistols. The magazine release is unusual being part of the trigger guard. Once you get used to the location it presents no problem. The recoil spring is a double wrapped wire spiral like many modern pistols. The take down sliding block on the frame reminded me of my Glock takedown. The magazines are well designed and use a coil spring to power the follower.
The first few trips to the range were to familiarize my self with the pistol. I tried many brands of 22 ammunition and there is a lot to choose from. Cartridges that are loaded for standard velocity, 1000 feet per second or less and high velocity over 1100 feet per second. The choice of bullet weights ran from 36 grains to 50 grains. The bullet shapes basically are hollow flat point, hollow point, round nose, and truncated cone. I was very surprised that the flat hollow points feed well. Feeding was not a problem. However, problems were encountered with standard velocity ammunition. The fired cartridges were not always extracted and ejected. Using high velocity ammunition the pistol functioned without a problem.
Accuracy is a subjective question. How accurate is the P22? In my opinion the pistol has acceptable range accuracy. The P22 is not a target pistol. Using Winchester power point super x ammunition all shots could be kept inside an 8 inch paper plate at 20 yards. A better shot would do much better.
When it comes to selecting a 22 pistol there is just about nothing new. I’m so tried of all the Colt Woodsman design variations or the old Ruger 22 pistol. This Walther P22 is an attempt to give the shooter a modern style autoloading pistol. The pistol fits my hand just fine. All modern pistols use a variety of modern materials. The Walther looks modern because it is. It functions better than my old, all steel, Walther PP in 22 caliber. It’s lighter, fun to shoot and makes a great plinking pistol.

Hmmmm

I think that silencer made it louder!

I’ve purchased the P22 back 2/16/2005 with both the 3.4 and the 5 inch barrels. I have had some issues with Remington ammo. It has performed well with Federal, Winchester and CCS. It is a great gun for training trigger control and for double tapping. I haven’t experienced any issues with magazines both are “A’s”. I have put 2000 rounds trough it so far with no major failures. I have had few failures to eject and jammings only with bulk Remington ammo. I have taken it completely apart and showed minor wear. I have ordered two of the stove screws for replacement. If taking the gun completely apart be very careful with these two stove screws they are very ease to get damage. After you are finish make sure you loctite these two screws. Also make sure to adjust you under trigger spring for correct operation.If you don't get the correct adjustment on this spring you may experience double action issues when putting togeder. Over all this is a wonderful little pistol. I will be getting the tactical mount soon and also a red dot scope. I will recommend this pistol to anyone either for training, fun or self defense.
Good luck and have fun.

i see a lot of ppl wont to use cheap rounds.and that is ok if you have a cheap hand gun ,.get off the money buy good rounds ,and you will have a good time when you shoot. buy cheap and you pleasure will be cheap.it is up to you . i buy good rounds,and have a great time with the p22.also have several hand guns.from 22 to 45 .i pay good money for my guns and they wont good rounds. i give them what they wont,and i get what i wont .fun at the range! and kimbers are way over price!

I rented a P22 for my wife's first shooting experience. Light, cute, fun, reasonably accurate. I purchased the longer barrel version for fun at the range. I now have fired 100 rounds of Federal ammo through it without a misfire or a jam. The changeable clips make it easy to change shooters and retain comfort. Note: my S&W 22 revolver with the long barrel is much more accurate, but not as fun and my wife can't hoist it.

hi from germany and hello to all p22 owner!
at "first"....my enlish is not good and i do my very best... ;-))
at first when i am beginning shooting i take a s&w 686TC ...nice gun because there was not enough fun with shooting! here at my town i can only shoot 38 wad cutter and no higher mun(357mg, 9mmpara ect..)
i want to shoot more than 50 rds a week (here in germany 50 rounds kost 15$ !!!) so i want a nice gun in .22
the wlther p22 is my first thought because i am locking for a gun what is cheap and where i can do more than regular shooting ....
so i buy a barrel adapter an i have a lot of fun with shooting with a surpressor made by myself...
qickly buy an red dot and there is a lot of fun with shooting in my house when the shooting range here is close! you can buy nice items in usa at www.kiei.biz !!!
i have my p22 3 month ago and fired with federal american eagle an i have 2 mistakes at 2000 rounds... with surpressor i take remington and swartclip subsonic and i have no mistakes at 500 rounds. i have polished the ramp to the barrel with a dremel and ever enough wd40 or ballistol
oil used!
my p22 accessories:
p22 5" barrel, laser aim modul LA30, 12 cm surpressor made by myself, tactical red dot with 4 reticle patterns
my p22 was a "first edition 1of 1000" from walther germany.

best regards

marco

esta con ganas esa pistola y con ganas la pagina me podrian estar mandando asi imagenes de pistolas bien padress

this pistole has almost no recoil at all. i am trying to figure out why so many people are hitting the mag release.on mine you almost need to use 2 hands to slide the release.

this pistole was great at the range until i got it back to the house to clean. i noticed the barrel nut was loose so i took the slide off. after that springs where flying and barrels were coming off. it took me 45 minutes to get the thing back together. and the manual is no help at all. well to make a long story short the barrel nut is still loose. but it is still an awesome lookin gun

I got the gun a mounth ago and I've put around 600 rounds through it. The first 250 or so rounds I would have one failure to feed per clip. I was using the wal-mart federal value pack. After the 250 I cleaned it and a week later went to go shoot again without any FTF. The only thing that is wrong with the gun is it would go from single to double action ,half cocked. I called Walther and they said I have to send it back to the factory. There customer service is awesome there gonna pay for my shipping. They've earned my business. I like a company that stands behind there products.
Overall this is a super fun and cheap gun to shoot
pretty accurate to I can put a full clip in the orange @40' in a half-man with a 3" barrel.

I have no idea why anyone would have any issues with the P22. I have not fired many guns before (as far as handguns, a glock 19, glock 26, Kimber 1911 .45 3.5" barrel, Kimber 9mm Target 5" barrel, S&W Model 17 .38/.357 short nose) and this one was the most enjoyable next to the Kimbers. This is the first gun I have truly owned and it is awesome. The only firing issues I EVER had was when I accidentally wiped off the grease and the slide was too slow to extract correctly. After I cleaned and greased it it shot fine. I have fired Winchester and Federal ammo, no issues (but it is dirty ammo, but .22 ammo is sort of dirty burning i think). If you clean it every time you do a large amount of shooting, it works great. It isn't extremely accurate partly from its really light weight. With the extended barrel, though, it is great. I love it, and I have NO issues with it. Not for defense (except for training, for which it is PERFECT), but fun for target practice.

I own 2 Walther P22's and feed them a variety of ammunition...every thiing from remington bulk pack to Aguila SSS. The guns function fine. The first 200 rounds in each gun did have a few malfunctions. After the first 200 all has been fine and they do NOT seem to be picky about what kind of ammunition you feed them. I particularly like Remington Sub Sonic with an advanced armament suppressor attaqched. It makes a very nice quiet package.

I purchased a p22 3.5 handgun for my son. It was easy for him to hold and operate. Took it out in the desert for the first time yesterday, and the report was so loud he had to stop shooting. Is it because of the barrel length? Any suggestions on how to quiet its bark.
thanks eric

EAR PROTECTION, ALWAYS NO MATTER HOW LOW CALIBER IT IS! And yes, it does have a loud crack when NOT wearing your hearing protection.

Anyone experiencing jams should make sure they aren't limp-wristing it. My wife could only fire 1 or 2 rounds before the weapon would fail to extract or would Jam. I could go through several magazines (with bulk remington) without a single problem; after watching her shoot, however, it was apparent what the problem was. She tightented her grip and has not experienced a problem since.

Other than that, the barrel starts to get loose after 100 rounds or so, and the trigger comes way too stiff from the factory.

PS - It goes without saying to wear eye and ear protection. If you can't do it right, don't do it at all.

Hi everyone,

I have been admiring P22 for quite a while and looking to purchase one, but stupid British laws absolutely ban the firearms. Does anyone have a P22 for sale or can get hold of one for me? Looking to get a brand new in black. Ideally with accessoriesed with silencer & lazer for a true enthusiast. Can spend slightly more than it costs if there is a way to get hold of one...

I own one of these walther P22's. I do experince the slide catch unexpectedly releasing. As far as the misfires & jams, that was due to the ammo you was using. I found that the remington target rounds, (comes in a 100 round box),work the best. I've shot 660 rounds out of it so far, with only 1 jam & no misfires!

can someone in washington state own a silencer? i dont think it is a class lll state, but does it have to be to have one? or can someone who lives in washington state buy one in oregon, then take it back?

I bought my wife a P22 for her CCW class and works great for that. I got her a S&W airweight .38 spcl for her carry gun. Both good guns, but the P22 did have some jamming problems. I found that, in my case anyhow, that the extractor had a burr and wouldn't always lock on the rim of the case. I used a jewlers file, de-burred it and so far so good. We paid $230 for it at Gander Mountain. To the guy with the remington 597, I too had bad problems with that rifle so I traded it in for a Savage bolt action .17 with simmons 8 point scope. Absolutely no complaints now.

this is for rescue855, i find that the remington gold bullet is the only thing tha i can fire through my p 22. further more FEDERAL AMMO SUCKS ASS and i have run 20,000 rounds through my p 22 as well as cleaning it every 550 rounds and still going strong!

i would just like to remind you all to clean your guns regular and drink a beer every day (its good for ya) p.s NEVER RUN OUT OF SNUFF!

Apart from the slide, this gun looks like it's made of plastic... Is it made of metal? Which metal? It looks like a toy. lol.

I am in the market for a 22 plinker,
the p22 has been the most outstanding choice, but what about the sig 22lr. mosquito?

i have bought a P22 for Rubber Bullet. Where can i buy magazine for my rubber bullet P22. Please help me.
My email is : maxgan@mdn.prima.net.id

My P22 for rubber bullet's magazine can store only seven 9mm rubber bullet. i need to buy spare magazine for my p22 rubber bullet. please help me.

thanks

maxgan@mdn.prima.net.id

just so you know ammo does make the difference. the gun is ment for higher prised high velocity ammo to eject the brass correctly and perform better. i am currently saving up for this gun(as im 14 hehe) and have read many reviews, yours being the first negative.

I think that if you have failure to feed, you might find that some Miltec on the slide will make a BIG difference

Picked up my new military green P22 today and straight out of the box it flawlessly consumed over 200 Federals from a Wal-Mart 550 count bulk pack. My wife picked it up cold after not shooting a gun in years and continuously drilled the bullseye at 10 yards. At 10 yards, I was shooting very tight groups with it.

Upon arrival at home I totally disassembled it and found (as expected) the barrel nut was slightly loose and the two phillips head screws were loose. Totally cleaned it up, put a tiny amount of blue locktite on those loose fasteners and proceeded to lube it up with some very nice Dupont teflon spray which "sets up dry".

Needless to say, I am very happy with the purchase.

Making the afternoon even better was that the two brand new Taurus .40 pistols (24/7 and Millenium Pro) also performed flawlessly.

I have had a P22 for going on two years now and didn't have a problem other than a jam or two using inferior ammo until I pulled it from my range bag with the intention of putting a few rounds through it for practice when I noticed the front sight was missing. Talk about not being happy. Sad thing is, I don't know when it came off, and for it to come off so easily and be lost is criminal. The barrel shroud is constantly coming loose, but that is an easy fix, but I hate to think I have to buy a replacement sight for the pistol. Other than that, no problems, the pistol is very accurate and with CCIs I have no problems. Anyone else have parts fall off? Another thing, are they making a high capacity magazine for the P-22 yet, say 15? Looks like a doable option with the magazines already on the market.

Just bought a p22 today. Have not had a chance to shoot it yet, but will take it to the range in the next few days. This gun just looks like it should be fun. I have a .45 I love to shoot but needed something a little cheaper to just plink and play with.

this gun preforms fine. i never had a problem with it besides taking it appart. its grouping is almost a meter though. its a fun good looking gun.

I am having troubles viewing the video of the silenced P22. I get to the "Subguns" website but then what

Hey im a 13 year old kid. Im in to target shooting and rabbit hunting. I was wondering if i should get the walter p.22. I really like it and it fits awesome in my hand, but i have been doing research and everybody says it jams. SO should i buy it or not.........it will help me out alot thanks

the p22 is a fun gun, I finally made to the range and it did not have any problems whatsoever. I have been out shooting a couple of times since I got the gun and have not had any jams, or problems with the barrel nut or the other two screws that have been reported to work loose. I used the cheap Wal-Mart ammo and some other high velocity rounds and did not have any problems. Break down and cleaning is a liitle worse than a 1911 .45cal, but not bad at all. I would recommend this gun to any looking for a .22 semi-auto pistol, lots of fun. Over 500 rounds fired through it at htis time.

I have had my p22 for about two years or more I found that the gun does not like lead tip rounds but will shoot any copper tip rounds with out any problems can go throu a hole box of 500 with no problems. Found that the lead ronds will cloge the barrel if shoot fast and most of the time will shoot one rond and not load the next. Also found that after about about 100,000 round gun will go full auto every once and a while. I know why it does it but dont want to fix it!!

no comments.skip everything.

Got a P22 with 5in barrel for christmas from my father and law about two weeks ago. I took it to the range today and about three days ago and have fired nearly 1000 rounds. On nearly every 10 round clip only 7 or 8 make it to the target. I do like the feel and it is a fun gun but I'm thinking about sending it back to my father in law for something else. I also fired a rented 45, not sure the make or model, but out of 50 rounds didn't have any problems. My question is, are the issues I'm having with my P22 typical of 22's? Also, are most larger caliber handguns as reliable (in general) as the one I shot today? What should I ask my father and law to get me that is fun and reliable as a defensive firearm?

I HAVE A P22 GUN AND USE SPLITFIRE AMMUNITION IN IT AND EXPERIENCE NO JAMMING PROBLEMS BUT I JUST NOTICED A VERRY ANNOYING PROBLEM WITH THE GUN. THE SAFETY LIKES TO DROP WHILE FIRING!! WROTE WALTER HEARD NOTHING ANYONE ELSE HAVE THIS PROBLEM? PLEASE EMAIL ME WITH A SOLUTION CHRISMARTINEZ@INSIGHTBB.COM THANKS!

those any of you wants to sell me and mail me the p22 to panama city panama with the bill and paper works her they wants to charge you 600.00 USD for it
if someone can sell me and mail me one in 300.00 I will purchased email me at raphael_arango@dell.com
it will be better if is in Colorado or Texas where the money can be gived to the seller right after the P22 get ship.

all legal offer please.

Seth, Don't buy the Walther P-22. I've had nothing but trouble from mine since I bought it new 3 months ago. It is a good looking gun but there are several more accurate and reliable .22 pistols available. You might want to take a look at the Ruger Mark 2, Browning Buckmark, and the Sig Trailside. They are all much better designed, more accurate, and much, much more reliable than the Walther.

i own P22 and have had no promblems with it. all i can say is dont buy cheap ammo, and that goes for any gun you buy. you cant really expect a good gun to shoot cheap ammo well. so all of you having trouble with your gun spend some extra money on good ammo and see what difference it makes.

Seems there is mixed results and feelings on the P22. This is the fifth .22 rimfire I've owned and my favorite. I've tested a number of other .22 pistols, and am glad to have one like this, especially a Walther.

I've owned a few guns and can say they can all jam. One PPK .380 jammed every 4th-5th clip for at least 1 shot and too frequently the slide would jam trying to eject a live round. A thorough cleaning resolved this, but another 50 rounds pretty much had it fouled up enough for the problem to reoccur. However, this does not happen with every Walther. The next PPK suffered no such issues.

If you are considering buying a gun, then you should ask yourself some questions first. Foremost, why are you buying a gun? Hunting? Fun? Collecting? Home defense. Write down your questions and answers. This will help you to narrow things down. Do you want a long gun or a hand gun? I enjoy both, but I prefer each for different reasons and jobs.

For home defense, anything that you can use and use well is what you should use and practice/train with, as often as possible. I have fired both handguns and long guns hailed by others, only to find them inaccurate, weighty, or just poorly manufactured. Before I ever purchased my first gun, I test fired everything I could get my hands on. Since everyone knowing I shot trap well, many assumed a shotgun, especially for home defense, would be great for me. Wrong! I found I was very inaccurate at firing a shot gun at close range, especially from waist height, even with a .410. I found the Walther was the choice for me. While I can shoot most anything fairly well, and better with practice, the Walther was, and is a natural. My second magazine put one in the head, two in the chest and two in the neck, where the pairs were less than an inch apart. These were quick single and double shots at distances from 7 to 25 feet. Needless to say, there was little to consider after a couple more mags ended with almost the same results. I never considered the "James Bond" gun seriously. Boy, was I wrong!

The important thing to remember is get something you are personally comfortable with and can shoot well. Practice with it to improve and maintain you abilities. Consider what purpose it will server and, if home defense, the situations you might be presented with. I have observed trained personnel almost lose their life for being careless, over-confident or unprepared in potentially dangerous situations. Be prepared!

So what's the bottom line here? Try before you buy! Often local ranges also rent guns. Or perhaps a local club where usually members will enjoy showing off their collection for you to test. You might be surprised to find out what you are bad and good with. I was, but no regrets. IMHO, find a gun, long or hand, large or small frame or caliber, that you can shoot well and consistantly. Resolve yourself to practice with it to improve and maintain not only your ability, but confidence. If you can use it well, know how to react and respond in various situations, do your homework and prepare for the test(s), you, and your loved ones, will live long and prosper.

For me? Well... a .44 Ruger may stop a 6'5", 350lb+ raging person on PCP, but only if I can hit them with it. Tho I can group a .44 at 75ft within the paper target (mostly outer paper), I'd rather take their eyes, or other vitals, out with a .22 than to fall on my arse in front of a perp from an uncontrollable cannon. I also like shooting for enjoyment, so the addition of the P22 to my collection is an inexpensive (mine was $249) way to have some fun as well. I am not personally fond of .25cal, but .22, .32 and .380/9m are my choices for home, depending on the actual gun. In my case, Walther. ;)

Lastly, IMHO, long guns are just not as flexible in the confines of many homes and can even hinder persons requiring quick or difficult exits. In response to an earlier comment, I don't think my shotgun could even fit (aim) in my shower, let alone with me or others in there with it. (Tho I recently ran across this little gizmo and am very curious! http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm)

Well I hope this was/is at least an amusing read if not helpful to someone exploring guns. ~Ciao

Looking for a P 22 to buy in Germany.

Thank you for every mail.

I have had my P22 for almost a year now. This is a great little gun for $249.99. I read alot of mixed reviews for this, and was a little weary buying it. I figured it was worth a try. Plus my wife can handle this P22 better(also not afraid to shoot) than the larger cal. hand guns. I have tried the more expensive american eagle and other bands of ammo and they work well. I decided to try the cheaper ammo just to see if I have any problems. So I tried and currently use the Federal Bulk Pack 550 rounds at Wal-mart for $8.96. I have shot 2000 rounds plus through it. Every once in a while it will jam, but very rarely. I also clean and lub my gun every time I get back from the range. Also the accuracy of this gun is very good for the money!!!
I have not experienced any other problems with it. I.e. Safety moving, loading issues, ect. I say the only thing that is a pain in the butt, is assembly and disassembly of the gun for cleaning. I would recommend this P22 to anyone. I am very happy with it and hope you try it out and see for yourself.

First, I've gained a terrific amount of knowledge about this little gun from this list. Many thanks. I have questions about two topics:

1. Let us assume that a round is chambered, the hammer is not cocked, and the safeties are off. Can the gun go off due to a blow to the hammer, without the trigger being pulled, or is there a built in disconnect between the hammer and the firing pin?

2. Does anyone have comments about Walther's new laser sight, built specifically for the P22? Retails for about $100. Looks very neat and tidy, plus it doesn't interfer with the open sights. I'm wondering how effective it is, how reliable, and how easy it is to adjust.

Thanks in advance.

my name is Archie of Iloilo city
philippines,
I recently purchased a brand new walther p22.with a G pefix serial #.

I fired 100 rds of armscor and 100 rds CCI stingers 22lr without a hitch until a
miss fire occured.

I cycled the slide manually but the extractor did not extract the ammo from the chamber.

I tried to cycle a couple of times but did not take it
off.

I pried the ammo with a shell and worked out the slide again with a new ammo but it still did not extract the ammo.

This did not occur when I fired the round but when I cycle the slide manually it failed to extract the Round from the chamber.

I checked the barrel nut but its very tight, i had
come to a conclusion that the pistol has a weak
extractor spring.

I tried this with both the magazines with no success, both of them has an A at the end of their serial #.

Please help me on what to do.

P.s. I just recently registered my pistol online.
Thank you very much.

Purchased a P22 based on look and feel, and for my wife to use for home/personal defense. Though I prefer the harder hitting calibers at the range, it's fun and inexpensive to shoot and fairly accurate even without the longer barrel. The Walther laser attachment is a nice addition to the gun and looks good to boot. Regarding ammo, we haven't had any luck with American Eagle metal jacketed rounds (red box), with jams as frequently as 3 per 10 round clip. Otherwise we've shot a couple thousand rounds of (non-jacketed) Remington subsonic, cyclone and thunderbolt without any problems occurring. I typically don't have any problems with American Eagle which I shoot for target ammo in my SA Benelli R1 30.06 without any troubles. I recall having similar problems with another Remington manufactured copper jacketed .22 round in the P22 as well as a Marlin S-A rifle.

Just bought a P22 today and am very pleased with the fit and finish. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. Just posting to see if anyone can describe the tool used for reassembly as I do not believe I received one. I stripped the gun just now and it did take a little time to get it back together so just wondering if this tool would help.

Im going to purchase a Walther p.22 for my first gun. Is it that great for target practice? I mean thats pretty much all im going to use it for, and the fact the ammo is cheap and the gun is about 270$.

I have the latest model P22. I absolutely love it. I have a few hand guns including a Glock 23 .40 cal, S&W .357 Revolver, Kimber 1911 .45 cal. This is one of my favorites though. You cant beat the price and the price of ammo, 250-300 for the gun new and less then 5 bucks for 100 rounds of ammo.

I only fire CCI MiniMags which you can get at any gun store or range that offers ammo.

With the CCI MiniMags this gun has NEVER jammed or misfired. I've run about 2000 rounds through it and shot and hit the target about 2000 times.

Its not the most accurate gun but what can you expect with a .22 with a 3.44" barrel. At 50' once you dial in the sights you'll be plugging the center of the target without a problem.

Now I've am very funny about gun cleanliness. So I throughly clean and lube this gun after every session of shooting, usually 100-200 rounds.

Some people say its difficult to disasemble and reasemble but I think anyone could EASILY do it. Just takes a little practice and a little patience.

I stumbled across this page while I looking for a place to buy the 5" extended barrel.

There are a ton of accessories for this gun. I have the Gemtech suppressor and walther laser sight. But there is alot more stuff availible.

I would recommend this gun to a beginner that wants to get into the handgun scene or anyone that just wants a cool lucking gun thats tons of fun to shoot. I would NOT recommend this gun for home defense or target shooting (by this I mean anyone looking to be competive with target shooting).

Hope this review helps someone out!!

Great review, Ryan. I'm trying to talk my wife into us getting one. I've been looking for some input about the Walther laser sight, the one designed specifically for the P22. Could you tell us a bit about your experience with it?

Great site, it has really helped me in my search for my first gun. I saved my self from being overcharged,(Who sells a p22 for 500$ anyways?, found the right kind of ammo, and yes, the nut in the barrel does come lose. Well thanks again. Great help.

Oh yes, one more thing. How much, on average, would a good quality laser sight cost?

P22 may not be the best for defense but it
helpt me on a fishing trip in polk co. tenn.
a black bear was fishing that day too.we both
lived to see today

Roger, you're going to have to give us more than that about your fishing trip. What happened? Did you shoot the bear, or drive it away with noise alone? If noise was the key, the short barrel version makes even more sense.

Please fill us in.

BTW, Christian, a decent sounding laser sight is made specifically for the P22, made for Walther by someone else. Retails for about $100. I've been trying to find a review on its performance. The short comments I've found on it have been favorable.

Thanks for the info Inlandboy. I purchased a lasersight for my p.22, for only 59.99, originaly it was 119.99, but it was on sale! Great savings. Never heard of the brand though. Does Magnum, ring any bells? Anyways, it was easy enough to put it on the gun, more difficult trying to get it out of the packaging. And the sight works wounder on your aim, duh, thats what it's for, and it just looks so cool! Makes you feel like a proffesional. So The laser sight, in my opinion, is an excellent buy. And for anyone looking to purchase one beware, of the HERENDOUSLY hard to open package. Thats all from my end.

Some fourteen-yearold kid who likes guns. Christian

Ok, taking the gun apart, pretty easy, putting it all back? Just shoot me in the knees. The slide spring (Please excuse my ignorance)Is very difficult to put into that hole, and put back onto the base of the gun. The little stick that is supposed to assist in this matter is designed for a 5" barrel not a 3 4" barrel. So I attempted to improvise by using a smaller stick to help service in putting that damn spring back. It was the stick to a lollypop. When I was trying to, the slide just pops off knocking over a glass of water on the table. The manuel is so un-usefull. One friggin parragraph and two pictures to try to tell you how to assemble, and disassemble the gun. Hate to dis such a nice, little, accurate gun, but am I doing something wrong, or what? If so, please tell me. It would make my life a whole lot easier. Thanks, for listening. Christian

Greetings Christian. Thanks for the feedback on the laser sight. Glad you like it. I haven't heard of the brand name, but I'm just now renewing this hobby after a long hiatus. I have a few specific questions:

Have you used the sight adjustments to dial the laser in? How user friendly are they? Is it a click adjustment like on a good open sight, or a "loosen & move" arrangement?

How fat is the laser dot downrange at, say, 25 yards? I have aspirations of small game hunting with it, and I figure 25 yards is about max for rabbits, squirrels, etc, on a good day. Also, I'm very fond of frog legs. I think the P22 with laser would be the ultimate in bullfrog aquisition.

How bright is the laser? Does it still show up in full daylight?

It seems to me that a laser sight offers a huge advantage over open sights in terms of feedback. Aside from mechanics, marksmanship is a matter of adjusting the gun's angle to a minute degree. Instead of relying on the relationship of objects 6" apart to do this, a laser gives you max yardage to do so. Yee ha.

About gun reassembly: There's a very good review on this list, roughly 2/3 to 3/4 of the way down, by a former gunsmith. It's a pretty long review which should help you scan quickly and locate it. The reviewer gives precise details about how he assembles the gun. It's worth noting that he doesn't use the little rod.

Good luck! Keep us posted.

Inlandboy: I really like this model laser sight for many reasons, you can, for one, adjust the size of the lasers dot. (Note the bigger the dot, the less range it has.) And if you can make the dot bigger, you can make it smaller. (Note again, the smaller the laser the farther the range.) I am well confident, that the laser sight could reach up to 25yrds but, the only problem with mine is when the battery starts getting low, it severly affects the range/power. The amount of sunshine, will little effect the laser sight but, will severly hamper your ability to find the little pointer. So, make sure you get a good brand, and safe shooting. Always talking, Christian P.S. I finaly figure the trick to assembley, just put the spring in, below the barrel's hole (That other smaller hole) and take the guns base, slide it back onto the slide rail, let the spring go, and use a small stick and pop it into it's small hole into the guns base untill you here a satisfing "Click" pull the slide all the way back smack it top, and push up the take-down lever, and you are done.

Christian,

Glad you resolved your reassembly difficulties. Sounds like you have it down pat.

I don't have a P22 yet, but my uncle does. I'll likely have a chance to shoot it next month. If I like it as well as it sounds I'll get one in April, I reckon.

Well now I have a bunch of laser battery questions: How long does a set of batteries last? What kind of batteries, and how many? I'm delighted to hear that the dot size is adjustable, what a great feature.

Did you have to sight in the laser? How does that work?

Thanks for all the info.

Inlandboy, Remember, different types, makes/models of laser pointers are different. Some better quality than others, and etc. I did some studying up on the laser sight I bought. It is a discontinued Phonix Arms

Ahhhhh, crap, I wrote at least a full page of info. What happend?

Ok... Time to do it again... Inlandboy, Remember, different types, makes/models of laser pointers are different. Some better quality than others, and etc. I did some studying up on the laser sight I bought. It is a discontinued Phoenix Arms product. Now, I know Phoenix Arms are well known for there "Saturday night special" guns. But ,there do make some pretty decent accessories, but, still dont buy there cheap guns. To the batteries. My laser sight takes four of those, argh cant remember the name, but do you know those small batteries in watches, and stuff? Well, anyways, also like laser sights, the batteries brands also matter, but I think Duracel is you best bet. It should remain operational if you leave it on for about, I dont know, say four, five hours? But only, after the first hour, or hour and half, it would remain strong, but after than... Well it gets weaker, and weaker. And adjusting the aim is very easy. On mine the laser's head pivots, easily so. Note: Some people align their laser sights directly straight under the guns barrel where the laser dot is the bullet strikes directly above, but othere align the lasers head somewhat at an angle so where the laser's dot is, the round will strike. And if you want to correctly align the laser sight, the only way I know of is either trial and error, or some laser sights cant even be manipulated, and the one sight you see, is the only sight you get. So, depending on the make and model, depeneds on what you get. Iv'e started to save again, for a new GREEN LASER HEAD! So thats pretty much all I can think of right now. Christian P.S. My clip, when inserted into the hand grip, there is a small space between the clips lip, and the base of the hand-gun. Is that normal? Does it effect the guns preformance? Thats all.

Christian,

I was under the impression that you'd bought the widely available Walther laser made specifically for the P22. That's the reason I badgered you with so many questions. It sounds like the unit you got is serving you well.

Thanks again.

Sorry I couldnt be of more use, lol im only 14.

Walther G22 rifle: anyone have feedback on FTF problems?

Rifle I purchased will functions flawlessly with Federal copper-plated HP ammo, but will not function with Remington solid nose ammo. Weapon will not even go into battery with Remington ammo. These are the only 2 ammo mfg I have tried.

Takedown for cleaning can be challenging. Manual addresses keeping micro springs on mag disconnector in place, but understates the importance. Good luck if you should lose 1 of the springs.

I recently purshaes a new P22. I love it. The fit and feel are great. I only use CCI ammo. Never had any problems.

One of the reasons I selected this pistol is due to the size - I have rather small hands. Plus the size would be great for a CC.

I have considered trying the CCI stinger HP's. I wonder how these would do with this pistol as a defense weapon. Any recommendations?

One more question - Anyone have any suggestions of a good CC weapon? I want something small (obviously) and as I was saying, my hands are small. I don't care about anything so powerful as a 45ACP.

WELL NEIL I SUGGEST U GET SOMETHING LIKE A DAVIS P380. IT IS A LITTLE OVER 5 INCHES AND IS GREAT AT SHOOTING BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THIS GUN IS THAT IT ONLY HOLDS 5 ROUNDS. BUT IF U THINK YOU WOULD LIKE THIS GUN I HAVE ONE ON AUCTION AT WWW.GUNBROKER.COM FOR $100.00

what can i expect to pay for a p22, and where can i order online for best price? thanks!

I bought some cci stinger ammo for my p22 are they to powerful,and will they damage the gun.

O.K. first I'll address some questions from the last few posts. CCI stingers have a great reputation for power and accuracy. From what I can gather they work very well in the P22.

If you're looking for maximum power in a .22 long rifle, my vote would be for CCI's Velocitor, which carries a 40 grain semi hollow point at close to 1500 fps. This gives the round more energy at close range and downrange than the Stinger, which has a 32 grain hollowpoint bullet.

Aguila has an even hotter cartridge, but I haven't had the opportunity to try them yet.

When choosing ammo, bear this in mind: bullets shot from pistols don't develop the same speed or energy they do from rifles. All the published ballistics are based on rifles. Optimal barrel length for the .22 LR is 15-20". Finally, these bullets won't expand in animal tissue unless they're moving about 1200 fps or faster. Now, I don't know if that last is true or not, but they certainly won't expand shot from my pistols while traveling through water. They barely get dented.

The not expanding part actually works in favor for .22 pistols used for self defense. Most experts consider penetration a primary characteristic for a self defense cartridge, with 12" being an ideal minimum. By not expanding, these hot .22 loads penetrate into this range, even from pistols. I base this statement on what I can gather plus some admittedly crude penetration tests I've done using water. By some sources water makes a usable correllary to tissue by using a multiple of 2/3 (bullets will penetrate 1.5 times farther in water than flesh)

I finally got to shoot a P22. Wahoo! Turns out my uncle has the short barreled version, equipped with factory laser sight. This gun has always felt good in my hands. I found it easy to manipulate and easy to shoot. We ran seven or so clips through it with no problems, most of it with Remington golden LR HV HP bulk pack cartridges.

I'm crazy about the lazer sight. By far the best group of the day was with the laser, stinger bullets, and a tree trunk as an impromptu rest-and we shot some expensive pistols today. The laser produces a precise dot at 40 feet, the distance we were shooting. The laser wasn't sigted in, but we did a credible job of doing so offhand. Adjustments are made using a tiny allen wrench and two allen screws. There are no click adjustments, but the movement is precise. I'm sure with a proper rest you could set it up any way you wish.

The P22 is a great little gun. I want one. I think the short barreled version is the way to go. It's so compact if fit in my jean's back pocket. How many tactical pistols can say that?

Have fun. Shoot often. Be safe.

If you are have a problem w/ your Walther P22 jamming, read the manual. Once you have loaded ten rounds in the mag, tap the back side of the mag in the palm of your hand. It is a semi-double stack mag, not a true double stack. If you tap it in the palm of your hand it will seat the rounds nice and tight. Try it, you will like it. I had the same problem. Talk about an accurate little pistol, I can put all ten rounds in a playing card at 50 feet. I love it. KINGMACS

I have heard that silicone is a good way to stop wandering screws- and will back out easier than locktite. Anybody out there tried silicone on gun screws? JK

Anybody out there know WHO is coming out with the green laser for P22?

I recently bought a P22 for myself. I paid around $275 for it but still saw that as a really good price. It was a nice size gun to hold and felt good in the hand.... have to wait the 10 day period before I pick it up but I am really appreciating what I am reading here about the ammo. This is my first gun and I just got into simply by going to an indoor range and fell in love. Once I take it out and shoot a few rounds, I will let you know how it handles but im looking forward to a good gun. Thanks all

I bought a P22 and had trouble with failures to discharge, often after several hammer strikes. Sent it back to S&W, and now it works with just about everything. Mainly, it works with CCI Green Tags, which are what I wanted to use with my new GemTech Seahunter suppressor. The pre-threaded barrel works really well with the GemTech's adaptor for its quick-disconnect fixture, the Green Tags are subsonic and accurate enough for close-in work or mid-range plinking, and the Seahunter--well, I can't say enough good things about it. Titanium can that's pretty much indestructible, the quick-disconnect feature lets me attach and detach in two seconds, I can easily move it from gun to gun with spare connectors fitted to each, the thing's quiet as can be totally dry and with absolutely no artificial environment, and there's the fun of quiet shooting. Now, if someone could just clue me in to a source for extended and threaded (1/2 X 28) replacement barrels for my little Beretta 22-A with the tip-up barrel...

Recently got the P22 and I love it.

You can finesse the slide back on, without any tools.
I can remove the slide and reassemble the gun in 12 seconds.

I'm designing and making custom pocket and shoulder holsters for the P22.

I'm designing a leather P22 concealment vest.

I'm also designing magazine butt plates that allow
your pinky to comfortable curl under the grip.

http://www.surfpick.com/pics/pinkybaseplate.gif

I work with Sharkskin, Python, Lignum Vitae and Snakewood.

I just received a fairly used Walther (1000 rounds or so) with the factory laser sight and I noticed after a few rounds of dry firing or racking the slide, it seems the POA (point of aim) of the laser moves left or right. Anyone else experiece this?

I'll probably head to the range this weekend and confirm it on paper.

Jim, I just found a company, Laser Aiming System Corp. www.laseraimsystems.com that will be coming out with the green laser early this summer. It's made for the P22. Check it out.

If you are having a problem with your P22 jamming when using cheap Federal or Remington bullets, here is a trick that works for me. Load the clip with 9 of the cheapo bullets and for the last bullet load a Stinger or Minimag so that it will be the first to be fired. All of the bullets in the clip should fire without a problem. Don't ask me why this works, but it does. Also, make sure the stove bolt and barrel nut stay tight.

Yes, I started using Federal and started having a problem with next bullet loading after the empty casing is ejected. I also had a problem with the safty going to safe when the slide goes back when the gun is fired. I tightened the screws on each side of the safty. I'll see how that works.

I've owned a P-22 since 03 and now own 2 the first one has a screw that loosened up between the frame and slide (after over 20,000 rounds and no cleaning!) I use federal rounds and have had very little jams...Other than the slide will stick sometimes on the first round of a mag(weak spring?) I have had only that loose screw to complain about ... For people who thinks a 22 is too small for self defense I leave you this thought... Most assasins use silenced 22s... Its all about round placement!

Went to the shooting range today. Put only about 100rnds through it. Used a combination of Federal bulk pack, and brass remington. Had no jams on either, but had one miss fire through the Golden brass. Had to use a small flat headed screwdiver to pry it out of the barrel. Dont do that, IT'S DANGEROUS! Really. But If you read the stats on the back of both of the ammo types, you will see that federal is better. Just most people like the name brand stuff. Thats all, and good bye.

I bought a brand new P22 and have real trouble moving the slide. It is difficult to disassemble and clean. I'm wishing I just got a 38 with a .22 for target practice. I'm a lady with small hands but wanted something good for defense. My brother said sometimes you can get the spring changed for more flexibility. Any suggestions?

Thanks for any input.

I would pull the slide back, and leave it like that for a while. That might relief some of the stiff spring tension. I hope this helps.

I think the p22 is pretty good but it is quite small, i just have a small question, can you equip a laser on to it? I mean its pretty small and it looks like a toy, thanks for any info thats posted for my question :)

Yes! Of course! But they are a little pricy...

I just purchased a P22 from the site below, but have to wait 90 days...

They're selling 'em with TAC65 supressor for 470 right now!

Tac65 is advertised as a 38 db reduction. I shot one indoors and it was loud, but that was indoors. My AR-15 sounded like a cannon, so perhaps "loud" is a misnomer with the supressor attached.

http://www.impactguns.com/store/product2296.html

I read everything about the P22 in this forum and still decided to buy one. Ofcourse, it would never happen to me. After about 50 rounds or so from a brand new P22, it stopped firing, not just a jam, or a misfire, or a failure to feed. Something screwed up in the hammer, its tension was no more. It moved freely, so... I've gotta figure out now how to get it back to smith and wesson.

Just as Jay above, I went through about 30-40 rounds and the hammer spring either broke or came loose and the hammer moved freely. After contact with S&W they supplied transport and after 3 weeks the gun was returned. I have not fired it since the return.

After much research I purchased a new short barrel P22 in March. It came equipped with Walther's custom laser sight as well as the standard open sights. To date I've run about 500 rounds through it, usually 3-10 clips at a time. I'm very pleased with the little gun. Here's a bunch of notes pertaining to it:

While it's not particularly hard to field strip, it doesn't seem particularly necessary, at least at my rate of use. What is necessary for any auto's health and reliability is regular lubrication. My gun instructor said autos ought to be lubricated once a month even when they aren't fired! Gun lube is very light, and can run off the vulnerable bits. What I do is lube the slide, barrel, plunger, loading throat, hammer and safety every time I take the gun out to shoot it. I figure the slide in particular, being aluminum, and needs all the help it can get to last.

After reading all the reports about loose barrel nuts, I used blue loctite on mine. So far no problems. Be sure to clean the oil off the threads with alcohol before applying.

The factory laser sight is wonderful, and highly recommended. It's easy to use, integrates very cleanly, and has fine adjustment. Like any laser, it isn't very useful in broad daylight, but in low light it has no equal. One caveate: If you take it on and off the gun, you'll find that it freqently throws off the sight adjustment. With it on, it lends weight and steadiness to the barrel. With it off, the gun fits neatly in my back pocket. I guess trade-offs are inevitable.

Failure to fire: Remington and to a lesser extent Federal bulk ammo is cheap, cheap, cheap, and they get it that way by cutting corners. I shoot a lot of it for practice, and don't care if some of it fails at less than 2 cents a round-aint .22s great? Federal has a better firing record for me, and is my preference with bulk ammo.

Failure to feed: Unfortunately, Federal is bad about this, at least in my experience. I think it's the shape of the bullet. Most failures to feed occur on the first round of a full clip. That's why I put a drop of oil on the feed throat when I lube. It seems to be improving as the throat wears in with use. Warning! Resist the urge to speed up this process by honing, grinding, sanding, polishing, etc. It's a good way to fuck up a nice gun.

BTW, I've tried subsonic Remingtons with no problems. CCI shot shells, however, aren't powerful enough to cycle the slide.

CCI: Great ammo. High quality, always works for me with the above exception.

CCI Stingers: The only cartridge I've tried fast enough to mushroom its bullets from this gun, including Velocitors. (Tests done using gallon jugs of water in tandem). Does a spectacular job of blowing up water filled cans, milk jugs, etc. My choice as a self defense round.

Self defense: No knowledgable person would confuse the P22 with a combat weapon. Fortunately, self defense isn't combat. Most assailants in most situations aren't likely to keep attacking if they realize they could get hurt, assuming they have an easy escape route. That's what you want, for them to get the hell away from you. If you have the option, run. The odds are good that you won't be killed, or even wounded, if your assailant is armed with a handgun. Handguns are hard to shoot accurately in stressful situations.

There's only one good reason to shoot someone in the eyes of the law: To stop them from seriously harming or murdering you or another innocent. The arguments are endless, but the strongest scientific data indicate that physiologically (as opposed to psychologically)there are only two ways to stop someone with gunfire: massive blood loss, or destruction of the central nervous system. With a .22, the only target one can realistically expect to cause massive blood loss is the heart. Make a fist. That's about how big the human heart is, concealed somewhere within the assailant's chest. If you ask me, it would be a lot easier to shoot the assailant somewhere (anywhere) in the head.

Fortunately it's very unlikely that I'll ever be faced with such a horrible task, even if I lived two or three lifetimes. Like most Americans, I live in an exceedingly safe environment. Nevertheless, my trusty pistol is near my bedside, which brings us to

Gun safety: Don't leave a loaded gun, even a concealed one, laying around the house. Far more kids get killed with such guns than burglars. The P22 is loaded with safety features, one of the best of which is that it will not fire without a magazine in place. My gun instructor recommends that you stow the magazine in an accessible hiding place apart from the gun. That way even if kids find the gun, even if they get a hold of some ammo, the gun still won't fire.

It's not just kids. No one needs to grab a loaded gun when they're half asleep.

Practice a lot. Safe target shooting helps on all fronts, developing accuracy, good gun safety habits, and, crucially, utter familiarity with your weapon. If, heaven forbid, you should ever need it, that's going to count for a lot. Besides, it's fun.

Cheers

Inlandboy

look , the p-22 is not a perfect pistol by any means but it is a very cool pistol. if you don't like sell the mother f***ker . if you haven't yakked it up you can sell it just based on the looks of it. I can't say I haven't had any problems out of it but the problems I've had with it are minimal the thing is brand spanking new (2 days) . Problems aside it's a cool pistol it looks cool is fun to shoot ,federal high-vel causes more problems than it was worth reminton ssubsonic I have found works best had no problems out of fedreal standard velocity, peters SV, rem thunder something . haven't tried wolf match or extra match or aguila keep ya posted.
I like the little gun all in all keep it clean is all i have to say
RayRay

i need new parts for my p22 could u sennt me a website for them.

i need new parts for my p22 could u sennt me a website for them.

i need new parts for my p22 could u sennt me a website for them.

I bought a P22 for my daughter last year. So far we've only been to the range with it once. It was a miserable experience. I'd say 90% of the rounds jammed. I don't remember the type of ammo we used, but I'll try a few different types next time we go. I hope that solves the problem. I have a variety of handguns, none of which have ever given me the problems this Walther has. My Beretta 70S is ten times the gun this cute little P22 is.

I have a new P22 manufactured in 2006, 3.4 barrel. For the first trip to the range I grabbed a selection of 22s that I had on hand and started out with Federal Spitfires. It jammed or failed to feed on just about every shot. I then switched to a magazine full of CCI standard velocity and blew through 100 rounds with no problems at all. Next I tried Remington golden HVHP and again had no problems in 100 rounds. I also tried Cyclones and again, no problems. All in all, after the Spitfire debacle I ran through almost 500 rounds without a single hiccup or burp. I was very pleased. Accuracy was so so but I expected that. Still, my boys and I were able to plink 12 inch plates one-handed at 50 feet with no problem, and cans were toppled and sent spinning within that range. Still, on paper I could only manage 3 inch groups at 10 yards, and that was with the Remington goldens. Like most of you I have a number of other more substantial carry guns but I'd have no problem with this as a backup gun if I felt the need. As others have said, this gun is a heck of a lot of fun. My 10 and 7 year old boys had a blast and they could actually manage to hold it steady. This was my real purpose in buying the weapon. I'd like to put the larger backstrap on but for their sake I'll leave the smaller one on. I am very happy with my purchase and my boys think their dad is a hero. That'll wear off soon with the onset of the teenage years but for now I'm basking in the glory!

I bought my P22 november last year and so far have had no problems at all; just two minor issues:

1. It fails to eject live rounds, I read above someone else had the same issue.

2. A couple of times, the spring of one of the magazines (the flat plate one) just pop up from the retainer, so it fed only 3-4 rounds. Dissasembled the magazine and put the spring back in place.

Does anyone have any ideas on these issues?

Thanks.

Be careful to whom you listen begore you decide to buy or not to buy a particular gun. I read several of the Walther P22 bashing commentaries which said that under no circumstances should I buy one. After thorough testing I followed their advice and did not buy 1. I bought two and have had great performance from them both. They cycle and shoot well with just about anything thing I put in them. They don't like one type of subsonic that a tried with a AA suppressor. Everything else works great. Perhaps the problem is the shooter and not the gun.

I have a clear p22 and it is great. I barely have had any jams.

Im planning on buying a P22 for my wife,she really does not like the recoil of my 9MM glock.Any one know why I should not get one!

I just bought the Walther p22 combo gun. This is the one with the 5 inch barrel. I have read great reviews on the gun but my hammer spring broke on the 220 round. I was shooting Winchester ammo. I didn't own the gun 3 days and it was broken. I was the most expensive 22 ammo I could find. My previous 22 a Smith and Wesson 2206 was picky when it came to ammo.

The gentlemen at the gun store said these Walther p22s do this all the time and that is why he didn't carry them in his store.

I am hoping the factory will see to it this new sping is a good one.

I just purchased a P22 and have spent the past few days putting it through its paces.

The P22 is very picky about ammunition. I had poor luck w/ Federal HP cartridges - 3 FTEs in 36 rounds. I switched to CCI Mini-Mag cartridges and haven't had any problems since. I've put about 350 rounds through the gun without a single failure after switching to CCI.

Find the right cartridge and this gun is very reliable, easy to aim/sight and accuracy is decent even with the short 3.4" barrel.

I recently purchased a P22. It broke the first day fired, hammer spring! Took it back got it repaired. Fired it last night, works fine. Not too many problems with ammo. What I dont like about this handgun the re-assembly and well it is a plinker, this gun is hard to put back together and well not your .40.

I just pick up my p22 today. I bought 2 boxes of 22lr from walmart bulk pack fired both boxes in one day. Got only 4 failure to fire ammo out of 1100. Great little gun.

i recently purchased a p22 in o.d. green. I've shot around 100 rounds through it and for the life of me, i can't get the gun to quit shooting low. I'e changed the sight to the smallest one but it still shoots low. any suggestion

Recently took a P22 on a 3 gun swap.Came with a Walther laser. Anyone out there have any input on adjustment?The top screw will thread out,the bottom one will turn to the right.and don't seem to have any bering on on adjustment? At any point you can,t turn to the left,seems to lock up.Looking into the lense,The Light lense is on the bottom corner of the hole/aim is way off.
Any input apprecicated. Thanks

Well I have fired 500 rounds through my new P22.
It likes HV 40 grain mini mags and remington goldens in the round nose,not hollow points.It seems that the flat nose on hollow points have a tendency to jam at the feed ramp.I do get a little nervous ever time I pull that trigger wondering,if that hammer spring is going to break.This seems to be one of Walthers biggest problems.

I have had my P22 for about a month or so. After reading so many negitive things about this gun I am pleased to say 500 rounds later I've had no problems so far. (I've been shooting Aguila Hyper Velocity)

I have a p22 and shoot mostly subsonic rounds and have never had a feed issue,stove pipe, or any jams. I have however had issues when drawing the pistol from a fobus formed holster. The front sight has a tendency to come off (not when firing but occasionally when drawing from the holster). I procrastinated resolving the problem as I recovered the sight each time until recently when firing on gravel. Hence my reason for posting today. I need to find a source to replace the front sight (of course the site lost was the sight that was perfect for me). If anyone can help I would appreciate it.

I just discovered this great little gun a couple of weeks ago when I went to a range to rent a Neos. I'm considering a new 22lr pistol and had narrowed the choice to the Neos and a Buckmark Micro.

After shooting the Neos (nice fit and finish and good accuracy, but I have to use two hands to operate the slide release), the guy behind the counter suggested shooting the P22. I immediately fell in love with it. It feels like it was made for my hand and shoots beautifully. I really like how small it is, too.

I've read a lot about it since then (here and at rimfirecentral.com) and know about the problems the gun can have. However, after going back and renting the gun again, I've decided that this is definitely the gun I want. I'll be picking one up in the next couple of weeks. Can't wait.

I own a P22. To overcome operation difficulties, practice, practice, practice. As a bonus go to the great outdoors, minding particular laws, and practice scenarios like "I'm getting mugged from behind" or "Get from point A to point B in a gunfight" setting up paper targets to mimic these scenarios. As far as practical self defense goes, CCI Velocitor served me well (obviously). If only CCI made RN solids with the same specs. BUT-with any hollow point YOU GOTTA HIT THE HEART! No matter what Cal. you use the faster the BG bleeds the quicker he'll go down. PS lovin this forum so far-great info PEACE ALL :-)

i've read all the posts. this a .22lr fire arm. Ammo is cheap, dirty, and random. This pistol is fun. That is the point of buying this firearm. I've had acceptable success with remington gold 500 round boxes for 9.99. Keep it clean, lube it well, and note that slide wear happens on the underside (couple of bumps on action area). Yeah CCI mini mags work far better than any other round, so there you have it. Get a 9mm or .45 springfield xd for price point reliability.

Hi all! I purchased my P22 about three weeks ago and have ran about 500 rounds through it. The first night of purchase I shot about 20 rds of bulk federal with 1 misfire and one jam (shell casing cought between slide and frame.) I manage the sporting goods department at my local wal-mart and have an avid shooter friend that works in our store. He has a P22 and gave me some advice that I found interesting.... For the first 200 rounds or so shoot good quality high velocity ammo only(CCI STINGER, CCI MINI-MAG, or VELOCITOR). He started out shooting bulk ammo and it appears that there was a "burr" in the ramp leading to the barrel. He had to have the ramp polished out and has since had no other problems even with various brands of bulk ammo. I ran 100 rds of STINGER, & 100 rds of MINI-MAG through it the next day with ZERO problems and have since switched back to FEDERAL BULK and have had ZERO problems since! Also I noticed the loose barrel nut issue when finger tightening. I have since added a threaded adaptor in place of the barrel bushing, tightened with the supllied wrench and have had no other problems. Thought someone might find this info useful.
As far as the P22 overall I tend to think it is the only 22 that looks like the "Big Guns". It feels great in my hand. I love the modular design and the fact that you can put all the gadgets on it. The mag release seems like it was made for ME, the safety features are numerous and effective.
I purchased the laser last night and once I adjusted it, I found that it shoots a pretty tight group in rapid fire situations. And heres the important thing if your considering purchasing the P22.... ask yourself "why am I buying this gun?" I did and the one thing that stuck out as an answer? ITS JUST TOO DAMN COOL TO BE A 22 CALIBER.
Like any other consumer product you purchase you can and will find numerous problems with certain units or production runs but I would almost be willing to bet that it is a small percentage. And the price of shooting 500 rds of ammo through it is a very appealing reason to consider this gun. The only other 22 that looks similar to the glocks, or xd's I can find is the new Sig Mosquito
and its price made my decision easier.
If you want a Fun, Affordable, day at the range Pick up a P22... It's just to damn cool to be a 22!!

I bought my P-22 from a friend after my divorce for protection. I have practiced with it at the range numerous times.(a must in S.C. for a permit).I have never had a jam or problem. I use CCI Quick-Shock JHP. My clip # is 265 93 44-A. Is there anyone out there who can direct me as to where I can purchase accesories such as new clips,extended clips,wrap around grips,original box and manuals,ect.

Stephanie,
For P22 accessories, see this link:

http://www.waltherusa.net/p22t.htm

You can order just about anything for the P22 you need here.

Good luck,
3yellowdogs

Which brand threaded barrel adapter is recommended for the P22?

i JUST BOUGHT THE P22.I bought it to Carry while bow hunting. Can anyone tell me how it shots rat shot. That is the ultimate reason why I bought it, but I do plan on using it for protection and target shooting. I just curious to how it would shot the rat shot?

i JUST BOUGHT THE P22.I bought it to Carry while bow hunting. Can anyone tell me how it shoots rat shot. That is the ultimate reason why I bought it, but I do plan on using it for protection and target shooting. I just curious to how it would shoot the rat shot?

For you all having so much trouble with the P-22, there really is no easy fix. Mine did all the same stuff, and alot of it was alleviated with blue locktite on the barrel nut. Having said that, however, mine still had a butt load of jams. The slide would hang up out of battery. The hammer was getting stuck where the safety bar and breech block meet. I took the whole thing apart and did quite a bit of grinding and polishing with a dremmel, and finally, it works flawlessly. I eneded up taking quite a bit of the hammer top, and rounding it out as oppses to it's origian sharp point. It's extremely picky about ammo, but most high velocity stuff shoots fine. Also make sure the thing is well lubed, with something like tetra gun grease or some form of teflon. It's not real difficult to take the gun apart, but just be sure you know what you are doing. There are lots of little parts that have to be just right or you can dick the whole thing up. If you are leery of taking your stuff apart, make a trip to Advance Auto Parts or AutoZone and pick up a tube of valve grinding grease. Apply it to the hammer and where the breech block and safety bar meet, reassemble the thing, and then work the hell out of the action. It will take a while, but it will get the job done for you without having to take it all the way apart. When you are done, make sure to clean it really good with something like action blast or gun scrubber. You don't want all that abrasive stuff in there if you don't need it. Hope this helps someone out.

I just purchased a new P22 and can not be happier! Bought it then put 200 rnds through her. No jams, perfect grouping. My buddy brought to shoot his Glock 23 (357sig). I bought it while we were waiting for the range. He shot mine and said "Man! I gotta get one of these!!!" Getting the suppressor next week! Super Gun.

You have to try one out.

Looking for a holster for the P22 w/laser attached. Anyone have any ideas?

Hi all, My wife and I just fired our new P22 for the first time yesterday Oct. 25, 2006 I must say it has a great feel to it and shoots very well. We had none of the problems mentioned above with the safety or the barrel coming loose. I guess the factory fixed these issues. We put about 350 rounds thru it. We did however have a problem with old (about 20 years old) low powered ammo causing a feed and extracting problem on occasion. The only other problem was operator error, forgetting to move the safety to the fire position before pulling the trigger. Unlike our Ruger Mark II which doesn't allow the trigger to move, the P22 makes you think you had a misfire. We realized our error and had a lot of fun with the gun after that. Enjoy and be responsible shooters.
John

PS to the last post: Ours has an L- serial# and the -A mags.
John

I have been reading this blog for 6 months. I still cannot get a straight answer as to were to purchase accessories for this fine little gun. I need extra clip, grips, holster,original box& manual.Most important the front sight.The company writes me and says call an 800 number.Is there not a gun shop out there. Please HELP.

I was doing a search on Google for a laser to add to my Olive Drab P22 and I came across the Viridian WP22 Green Laser site. It says that it is made exactly for my P22.

Has anyone purchased one of them?

My neigbor has a green laser astronomy pointer and it works REALLY well - he can point out stars off his deck with the beam at night.

I want to get a laser so bad but i want to know if it works as well as they say it does - like being totally adjustable, holding a zero, seeing good during the day, and if you have it how do you like it.

Thanks for any input out there,

Scott

Fired my P22 today, 525 rnds between me and a friend. Serial- L Magazines- A. Initially had a lot of trouble getting the first bullet to feed, had to force the slide into position, maybe 6 times between us. By the end I was using the slide release with no problems loading. Apparently it needed a little breaking in. Maybe 4 times in 500 rnds the next bullet failed to feed, but no stovepiping or jams. And everytime this happened the slide was locked open so I could tell there was an issue. And all 525 rnds were bulk Federal ammo. Overall I am very happy, very few problems even with the cheap ammo. Great gun for a cheap trip to the range!

Just got my P22 - couldn't be happier. Dealer told me to use high velocity ammo in it for the first 200 shots, to break it in. Ammo is so cheap, I see no reason to use anything else! I've put about 50 CCI mini-mags through it, and several hundred Remington Thunderbolt .22 LR 40 Grain bullets. At $2.48 per 100 (at Wal-Mart) you can't go wrong! Not one problem with the gun. It's a LOT of fun to shoot, and hits what I aim it at. The only thing that surprised me is how loud the thing is when shooting the high velocity ammo. I shot 10 rounds without my ear plugs... boy was I sorry for the next couple hours!

Just fired 120 rounds with my new P-22, no problems whatsoever. Great weapon, and VERY concealable. As a self defense weapon I'd rather be able to squeeze off 10 rounds of .22 from nowhere than have to haul out a larger caliber gun. I can stick it in my waistband when trail running and not even know it's there. Looks deadly as well, simply pointing it will make an evil-doer freeze in his tracks, as will the sound of pulling back the slide.

Just noticed a question out there about the Viridian WP22 – these were some comments that I had written on another forum a few weeks ago – I am still loving having a green laser on my Walther! It was a litte more expensive than the red one, but it works way better.

More about the Viridian WP22 - It was shipped to my home through UPS and the first time I opened it was later at night. It came in its own box that had a foam insert with a CR2 battery, owner’s manual, and 2 (very small- must be why they send 2) Allen wrenches that are used to adjust windage and elevation.

First of all, the green aiming point is bright... very bright. Right away when I opened it I put the CR2 Lithium in and I turned it on towards my white ceiling – with the lights off it had a definite visible green beam and it placed a green glow over the entire room. The beam quality also stayed very constant and there was no fluctuating of power at all.

As a side note... I mistakenly bought an ebay green laser in February - it was a 5 incher made more for rifles that I dremelled to make sort of fit on the end of my P22.

One of the problems with the ebay one was that when I would turn it on it would have a nice beam – for about ½ of a second – then it would get really weak and continue to get weaker the longer I would leave it on. No longer a problem with the new one.

My biggest concern after being very happy with the laser quality of the Viridian was how well it would work for real world shooting. (I was especially focused on this given my experience with the ebay rifle green laser which had my shots walking left and downward after every shot – this makes it pretty much worthless except for star gazing and given the laser quality that I spoke of earlier hardly for that – Maybe for ½ second at a time star gazing? – unfortunately the Hong Kong ebay seller did not take returns).

Back to the Viridian - The fit to the Walther is a perfect one – even how it hugs the trigger guard in the back – I’m not aware of any laser sights for any handgun other than maybe the red Walther one that contour the trigger guard quite like this. This tight fit to the trigger guard and to the rail, as well as the very firm latch spring fit are all keys to make this thing not move on the pistol at all when it is snapped into place. I made a point to get to the gun range the day after it came to try it out and it definitely passed the test – it held a zero. My shot groups were consistent but slightly off and it took me awhile to get it sighted in perfectly but once I did I was shooting very accurately. The beam at the gun range was ridiculous by the way – with the smoke in there it was doing the green light saber thing a bit – very cool.

I guess those are the main points – I am very pleased with it and look at it as an extremely fun addition to an already fun gun– the only negative I suppose would be that I don’t like the way that after getting it sighted in on mine the windage screw sticks out maybe 1/16 of an inch –doesn’t sound like much but those threaded set screws tend to want to grab things.

I called Laser Aiming Systems, the manufacturer, a week ago to find out when they are going to come out with a green laser product for my Springfield XD and that I want to buy one as soon as they are available. They told me they were shooting for this January or February– I told them my concerns on the extended screw, especially for my XD, and they said that their engineers have already addressed this and that their XD and GLOCK green laser products will have customized nuts that will leave the set screws completely recessed for most windage/elevation settings. They are not planning on making any changes to the Viridian WP22 as they consider it more of a recreational gun and not as critical for conceal carry/holstering.

By the way, if anyone knows of a good holster that works with this laser, let me know...

Oops. I just realized that I never mentioned the website for the company that sells the green laser for the P22 - www.LaserAimingSystems.com

I also own a P22, and I have had trouble with it dropping the clip when firing. Did you say that the one you test-fired had similar trouble? And you sent it in and they fixed it free of charge?

ebay is a great source of Walther P22 accessories like mags, laser sights (both red and green lasers), scope mounts, etc.

Just bought the P22 for my gf, for home defense and for fun plinking at the range.

Way I see it, unless you're a 400-lb. man on angel dust, 10 rounds of .22 hollow points are going to stop you, no matter what...
Don't believe that?
Let's say you go stand in a doorway, about 15 feet from me and let me pump those rounds at you.
Even if I only hit you with 3 or 4, once you've started ducking, falling, running or screaming, or any combo thereof, I (or my gf, in this case) has/have achieved the objective, which is to stop you.

I think too many guys have seen too many movies where a guy continues to shoot at the victim after he's been hit with several bullets.
Is bigger better?
Sure, in just about every case.
But, I'm telling ya, guys-
You shoot me with a .22 LR hollow point and I'm not too much of a man to admit that I'm probably gonna scream and start crying like a little girl.
And, so will just about any one of you.

Either way, her P22 and my S&W 586-5 are in the electronic gun safe on her side of the bed...
Flexibility is the key in overcoming any situation.

Now... On to why I'm here...
I'm a huge fan of Fobus holsters and will probably get her one for the P22.
Unfortunately, it won't fit with the laser.
Anyone seen a decent molded holster that will?

And, to go a step further, I'd love to go beyond the OEM laser and get a rail mounted flashlight, THEN a SIDE-mounted (grip) laser and, of course, some holster that will fit the whole conglomeration that, with accessorization, is now becoming almost as big and heavy as my .357.

Any thoughts?

-goatboy

I just got a P22 for X-mas

It is on of the best guns I have ever owned.

I can't wait to get my accessories.

I just bought a P22 this weekend (3.5", black, S/N L15xxxx, magazines are 36A stainless). I plan to get a Quest, Prodigy or Norrell suppressor for it (I'm leaning towards the Quest). Have only shot about 200 rounds through it. Had one FTF (Winchester Dynapoint). Flawless with CCI Subsonic, Federal Gold Medal Target, Federal Gameshock. The Winchester Dynapoint worked fine except for the one FTF. The Winchester is from an old box of cartridges I had carried around in my pocket, so I can't complain. Seems to be a great gun. Nice grip even for big hands, great size, and it simply looks like a gun should. Not the quality of my Walther TPH, but it sure seems to be value for the money (paid $240). Will have to see what I think after a few hundred more rounds, but so far it is pure fun to shoot and seems to be a keeper. Only thing I don't understand is why the Walther America site only sells blued magazines and not the stainless.

I bought a p22 about 4 years ago and had problems with it initially,stovepiping, misfires, rounds stuck in the barrel,ect.
However I got replacment mags for it, and I did two things. First I bought a new replacment barrel for it (the barrel has a AG on it). Second I used a small sander extention on my drill and sanded down the inside of the loading end of the old barrel. That seemed to have done the trick, now both barrel work fine I never have any of the previous problems. In fact I just bought another one for my girlfriend, she loves it and it has had no further problems.

SIDE NOTE: Subject 22. cal as a defensive round. I use to work in a hospital right outside of Houston TX. Let me tell you somthing, the 22 is a good a killer as any other round. Shot placement is everything. You can survive a 12 shotgun blast if it hits an extremity, but with a head shot, you wont be so lucky. True a 50 cal has more stoping power, but 10 rounds of 22's to the head is just as good. I've never seen or heard of a person continuing to attack someone after receving multiple shots to the head or chest area except in movies and urbanlegends.

I'm not going to get into the debate over .22 vs. 9mm vs. .40 vs...okay, you get the point.

Two nights ago I was watching a show on the Munich Olympic hostage situation back in the 70s, and the Israeli Mossad's response to the terrorists. They created 'hit' squads to go wipe out anyone in Black September who was responsible.

Why I bring this up is a pretty neat fact. The Mossad used Beretta 22s as their primary weapon during the assassinations. In the first instance, 2 Mossad agents took out the terrorist with multiple shots to the center of mass, and after the guy was down (and dead, or on his way out very quickly) the finished him with a head shot.

So, an Israeli anti-terrorist unit, or hit squad depending on what side of the world you live on, chose a .22 pistol of all the weapons it had disposable. Hollow points were employed, of course.

Personally, I can't hit **** with the .40 Glock I used to have, but can hit a pie plate 9/10 times at 25 yards. For home defense, I'd rather have the P22 which I know I can shoot well, versus relying on something I can't handle.

I'm not going to take the time to look for the statistic, but I heard once there are more deaths in the US by .22 than by all other calibers. Presumably, it's because you can buy .22 rifles at any WalMart in this great nation so there are more .22s than other guns, but it also speaks to the lethality of the .22 round.

When I wear this one out, I'll probably replace it with another. Oh, and let me give a shameless plug for the Tac-65 supressor. It may not be as good as other models, but works wonderfully for me with no issues, and there's a marked sound reduction.

I've shot about 800 rounds thru my P-22 at this point. I must say it is one of the most fun guns I own. I don't feel like I'm having to dip into the rent money when I shoot it and it works flawlessly. Not one FTF except the one noted in my earlier post. Now if I could just get the suppressor I want. I think with a good suppressor on my P-22 I'd have a hard time controlling the giggles. Its that much fun. Highly recommended.

Does anyone know of a belt holster for a walther p22 with a 5" barrel and laser sight?
Thanks
Collin

You are telling the world that a .32 is a better round than a 22LR????????? Michael Sr.

The alignment tool is not necessary to assemble the pistol.
The slide can be finessed back on, with practice.
I've done it many hundreds of times and have never kinked my spring.

Click my name for a demonstration.

My wife purchased a P22 to carry when she runs, due to the pistols light weight. I've shot the gun numerous times. It was exceptionally accurate out of the box. I've used the P22 rabbit hunting and routinely made headshots at 20yds. 1000 rds and only one jam using CCI mini-mags. Only problem- the hammer spring broke yesterday! Still, I think it's a great little gun and am considering a P99.

I purchased a P22 with money that I received for Christmas. I bought it for plinking, and as a side arm, while out hunting. We have a huge Coyote problem where I live, and I don't feel safe walking in the woods with just a bow, or a muzzle loader (you only get 1 shot, and if you miss, it could be your ass).
I have been nothing but impressed with this gun. The first time I took it out, I shot about 100 rounds through it. It was shooting about 2 inches low @ 25 yards, so I switched the front sight, and now it is dead on.
I am shooting the Federal Gold Pack ammo, and have yet to have a jam with it (unlike my Rem. 597 rifle). I LOVE everything about this gun.
Like Jim Spotta stated, the 22 caliber, is a very deadly caliber. The reason for this, is that the bullet can actually ricochet (bounce around) in the body. I have heard stories of people being shot in the arm (not a fatal wound) and the bullet bouncing off of the bones in the body, and end up puncturing lungs, and piercing the heart. I will definitely feel safe packing my Walther P22, no matter what situation may arise.

Sorry about the misquote. The person that wrote the facts about the 22 cal, was Jay on January 14th.

Just got the P22 a few days ago. I am very excited about getting out to the range with it. I got the 5 inch target model and reading through this forum, have seen a lot of talk about silencers. Just kind of curious about where to get one and what they run. This piece looks wonderful and hopefully shoots like it looks.

wow im shocked reading all the bad reviews. walther is a quality manufacturer and the p22 is one of the best rimfire handguns i've ever owned. all the feed problems im hearing are with the ammo, .22lr is a very dirty and unreliable round unless you spring the extra dollar for high load copper jacketed rounds. i've used cci mini mags and similar rounds with not a single feeding problem, some misfires but that is expected with .22lr and not a problem with the gun itself. like one guy said as long as the gun is well maintained it will fire to the best of your abilities. and some of the post were peaple say the have put hundreds or thousands of rounds through the gun is a joke. for the price of the ammo when i shoot i shoot from when the range opens to closing, about 6-8 hour depending on nightfall. thats in one day every week, and in that one day i will shoot at least 2000 rounds. figure that i've been shooting this gun for almost a year and do the math, and like i said never a single feeding problem. lastly as for the lacking in self defence or hunting, again it is a problem with your ability not the gun. i have use it very succesfully to hunt quirl and rabbit. also about 6 months ago i used it to stop a would be robber in my home. while the p22 isn't my daily carry gun i do keep it in the night stand because it is a gun me and my wife can properly weild if needed, but i woke up turned the corner in my hall saw the man with a gun in his hand took aim and shot him square in the right shoulder disableing him and holding him at gunpoint untile the cops showed up. sadly i almost wish i put him down because of all the legal fees he cost me after trying to sue me for assalt with a deadly weapon, but thats a whole diferent story. so for all you nay sayers who are to cheap to buy decent ammo and maintain your guns, your fools for missing out on probable one of the best rimfire pistols for the next 5-10 years, and those of you looking to buy one keep my words in mind and you won't be dissapointed.

Walther P-22: I had seen this little pistol in many adds. Last week I finaly purchased one at a local gun show (Black with 3.4 inch barrel). The pistol fires without issue. It's a neat firearm that has functioned flawlessly for the last 100 rounds. Couldn't ask for a lighter, nicer functioning 22 caliber pistol. Not to mention it looks great. 5 STARS!!! I'd recommend the P22 to anyone looking for a fun, small caliber pistol.

walther seems good at makeing rimfire semi-autos rifle and pistol alike.
the p22 true to german style is incredibly over complicated it has almost twice as many parts and twice as many moving parts as my 1911.
also it is very particular with ammunition, jamming often with lower quality lead ammo, but ussualy performing flawlessly with high velocity copper jacketed ammo. personaly i recomend cci mini-mag, stinger, quick shok, or the aguila super maximun solid point, right now the fastest .22lr round on the market at around 1750fps.
but the real reason i bought the p22 was because its bad ass that that is the gun a lot of special forces are using today. and for those who don't belive look into it they choose the p22 with custome loaded ammunition because of its reliability and it is easily silenced.
and with some of the other acesorise its just pretty bad ass on its own.

well goatboy there arn't any molded holsters for p22 with acesorise. for a molded holster you would have to get a custome leather one wich can get a little pricy. i got a p22 ajustable holster frome sports mans guide. it is ajusted by means of lasing like a shoe kind of but alows for fitting all but a scope. it also comes with an extra mag pouch and silencer pouch. but i got it primarily because i went the extra mile and got a silencer. and honestly uless you realy think you'll need one i don't recomend getting one the money, paper work, and overall hassle aren't worth it. a lot of guys on this post ask about the thought so i'll tell you, if it is legal to own one in your state you need to find a class 3 licenced dealer. wich means they can buy and sell fully automatic airearms and silencers and moxt anything else you would ever want. next depending on state some require you to get a silencer liceance, and if that is the case don't bother because you have to prove to them that in your suvilian copacity you require a silencer and we all know that you don't, but if you want to try heres what you do. tell them you hunt large game up north and while hunting also take small game birds and you would like a means to do this while hunting without scaring away all other game within 5 miles. a guy i now used this on his application and it worked, not garenteed to work but worth a try. in the cool states were it is legal and you don't need a liceance all you have to do is pay a rediculously high tax anywere frome $200 to i've heard well over $1000. were i live its about a $200 to $400 tax because it fluxuates all the time depending on tax laws and the governer. i have 2 silencers one for the p22 and one for my 1911 wich really makes less noise belive it or not. but those 2 alone with price sales tax and the add on tax ran around $1500. if you got the money nothin beats unloading a thousand rounds in your back yard without the police called and without rang fees. then you can night shoot set up courses and all the fun stuff but i still wish i didn't get the one for the 1911 to expencive. but for how cheap you can shoot .22lr it may be worth it. oh and you have to register it nationally so if you buy it intending to shoot someone, bad idea. you can also never sell or give it away because you are not a class 3 dealer and its a federal offence and if you do and someone else gets caught with it the'll arest you for selling it a probably find a way to sue you as liable for whatever the guy did. so now you know how to get one and some otyher stuff to chew on. and to find out how your state is don't ask the pd or your average gun dealer,the'll just say its illegal and tell you to leave. go online or ask an old gun nut they usualy know.

Just purchased a Nxxxxx with A mags. Ran 300 rounds of cheap Remington Goldens through it yesterday. No jams, no misfires, no problems. Great little gun.

What is your opinion of the Sig Sauer Mosquito 22LR.

I just bought a Walther P22. Tried using federals,but they don't work in this gun.Switched to cci mini mags.No jams after 165 rounds.

Dave

Dear All, I want to buy one Walther P22 for my self defence. I ahve got legal permission from my government. I live in Bangladesh. Can anybody advise me how I send money and get one like this? Please send your advice on khan143@un.org

Great little gun. Fits perfect in just about anyones hands. Even a child could operate this beautifull piece of German engineering. Its size is that so perfect I could fit it into the breast pocket of my service jacket, and you would see no considerable bulge. Until close examination, that is. (trust me, I know.)And when/if your on the battle field, having your rifle in hand, good old eagle on your thigh holster, and this little baby tucked into your tac-vest, you will pretty much feel Invincible. Not letting that go to your head its not the most powerful thing on the market. (Or even close)it really doesn't matter. The reason this gun is so liked by special forces, and special agents alike. No matter how large your bullet is, if you cant hit your target, whats the point? One .22 rnd in your eye is sufficient. In my opinion (which doesn't matter)I say if you want this thing for self defense your good to go. Use only high velocity ammo though. It is a tad picky. That being said, I'm going.

Thanks for hearing me out. p/c

Walther's quality control is seriously questionable. I recently bought a P22; literally %50-%75 of rounds that go through this "gun" jam, or are unable to make the slide load the next round. I have always had a great faith in the words "Made in Germany," but I would never for a moment trust my life to this weapon. The Germans should be ashamed of this shit. Too bad that H&K doesn't make a .22. I never (in a million years) thought I would say this, but I would sooner trust my life to a 50-year-old italian-made .22 than this plastic piece of shit. Then again, I know of a friend-of-a-friend that owns a P22 that has never had any problems. But with firearms, consistency is everything. Be very weary of this weapon!!!

yo guys
i am new to the scene and interested in shooting. what is a good starter/target/pistol/not to expensive for college student.... any suggestions(besides P22)??

If you're just learning, assuming you have no prior experience shooting i'd go with a .22 pistol, vs. a 9mm or a .38.

Ammo is dirt cheap, the guns that shoot them are practically disposable, and you can get the basics down before recoil hinders your growing skills.

Ruger MKII
Sig Mosquito

...2 good choices

I have to believe that anyone getting 50-75% jams with a P22 is using standard velocity ammo which simply doesn't pack enough punch to cycle the slide in a semi-auto.

The gun simply can't perform if you don't give it a chance. Like it or not, this gun REQUIRES high speed ammo to properly cycle the slide.

It's like trying to run a car with a high performance engine, built and tuned to run on premium gas on regular fuel. It will run very poorly.

Check out all the posts here that report few if any problems when shooting CCI Mini-Mags and other high velocity rounds.

As for ACCESSORIES - I've found the best selection and best prices on ebay. I've found the factory laser, holsters, weaver scope mount, mags, Viridian green laser, and many other items are all available on ebay.

I bought my P22 late 2003,with a supressor.Great combo!While waiting for my supressor paper work
approval from BATF I ran some rounds out of the P22. remington 38gr.subsonic,federal lightning,
Aguila 60gr.SSS, all run OK. My P22 has an "L" prefix. First time out I ran about 400 rnds.down range.After cleaning I had major jamming & feeding
problems!After searching on line I found the cure for these problems. I polished the feed ramp -streatched the ejector spring and learned not to overtighten the barrel nut (make it snug not overkill).Finally my paper work with the tax stamp
for my suppressor was in.This is fun to shoot without having to use ear protection! Great for pest control or just plain fun. When I go to the range people are amazed at how quiet this combo is. I've put around 4000 rounds thru this P22 and
it runs better than when new.Just find what ammo your gun runs best with. I tried about 20 different types to see what ones worked best. My only complaint is who or how can you lighten the trigger pull?

I just bought a p22. shot 20 rounds yesterday with one jam and one miss-fire. Today every clip either had one shell that didn't load or the slide didn't advance(about 60 rounds) usually the first round out of a full clip. Is this a spring problem with the magazine? I tried cleaning it a little tonight, not very dirty though, brand new gun. I put a good coat of oil on it and thought I would give it another try. I was using Federal hollow points. Should I try another brand of ammo.

hi
i want to buy a gun for cash easy and quickly! i live in montreal and would meet you any day, prefereably tomorrow!
i'm not a policeman and i'm in no way shape or form associated with any law enforcement!
i want the glock 27 with 2 boxes of ammo! i'll pay extra $100!

please contact me by icq 3696934
again, i'll pay $100 on top of the final price with the ammo included! i really want the gun!!

and dont worry you wont be meeting with a 16 yo kid - i'm 30!

off topic, anyone know what the "date code id" for a tph is? how can I tell when a tph was manufactured? If it says 'Interarms' and 'made in W. Germany' was it imported by interarms?

I have a p22, and like it very much.

the standard velocity stuff tended to not cycle it reliably though.

It cycles very reliably (maybe 99%) on the value packs of high velocity stuff, like golden bullet, and it also works well with the subsonic loadings.

I have a nice gun collection, but after buying this little P22 I find myself shooting more often and enjoying it more. My wife now joins me, and several times we have had friends out to shoot with us.

My P22 is plenty accurate. At ten yards I can hit empty 12 ga shotgun shells standing up in the sand, about eight out of ten. It reliably feeds the cheap Federal Walmart ammo I put through it, 550 shots to a carton. No unusual loading issues (serial L1320xx).

The weapon isn't without problems. The front sight is just a plastic piece pressed into place. (The US distributer will replace them, but it's a hassle.) I've heard they can be glued in, but haven't tried. I wish it had fewer safety interlocks.

But the biggest problem is that I shoot much more often! I'm buying four 550 shot cartons at a time, and easily spray through most of a carton when shooting with friends. I have three magazines for it, and my wife loads for me when I'm shooting, and vice versa. The cost of a day's shooting has dropped dramatically.

I only wish there was a speed loader that worked for the P22 magazines.

My P22 is a tight, well-made handgun. I have thousands of rounds through mine and love shooting it.

This sin't really designed as either a defensive pistol or target pistol, although most owners use it simply for plinking. It is designed to be a gun that is perfect for training new shooters. I have two and it is the first gun that leaves my case when teaching a person who is completely inexperienced at shooting. It is a full-sized gun, standard controls, but little or no recoil to scare a first timer.

Got my P22 Thursday, went to the range put around 600 rounds through it with no gun problems. The first 5 Federal Champion rounds I put through it fired but would not eject so I loaded a clip of Remington "Golden Bullet" not a single prob. I fired the entire box and had 1 Failure to fire, but you can't blame the gun, pulled the trigger and it fired. This gun is extremely fun to shoot. Can't wait to go back to the range and shoot somemore. After shooting about 400 of the Rem I put a clip of the Federal back in it and all 10 cycled without a problem.

A while back my husband took me to buy my first pistol for my birthday. After much deliberating, I selected the Walther P22 3.4 barrel with silver slide. I experience no problems with the CCI Mini-mags. The gun is lightweight so its very easy to hold steady for accuracy. Taking apart for cleaning requires no tools. I use it for target practice all the time and love it. I run a ranch and carry this gun with me all day long on a shoulder holster; it is comfortable and lightweight. For a woman, this is a very non-intimidating piece, fun, accurate and pretty too!

I just aquired a P-22 #L S/N, A mag, 3.4 barrel, as a gift from a brother that bought it for his older daughter that didn't want it, "too complicated", any way, I wasn't looking for another .22, I shoot a older Ruger MK ll target model that I've had for 25 years, and never needed anything else. After 200+ rds here's my impressions of the P-22. I bought a box of 40gr.1200vel.copper coated solid Federal Auto-match bullets, you'll pay as much for a box of 325 as a box of 500 anything else, but they are match quality, and 100% jam proof in the P-22 or the Ruger, their made for .22 auto's. The projectile shape is different than standards, thus they feed flawless, and cycle with out a hiccup. I then tried Federal Champions, 2 jams in 2 mags. I gave them away. Thats all the ammo I've used so far. The gun itself is a fine piece of work, using a 8" paper plate, with a 2" marks-A-lot black spot I always kept everything on paper, this was my average, 6 shots central, 1 bull, 3 flyers at 10yds, not bad from a new gun and new shooter, I'm still playing with the sights. So after all's said and done I'm glad I have the pistol, it's fun to shoot, inexpensive to shoot, and has killer looks, take down for cleaning takes a little practice, but no big deal, and its going to be a lot more convenient to carry afield. Would I buy it? probably not, I don't need it, I love my Ruger, but for a person who wants a good, small, .22 auto, IMO, it's one of the best, as far as holsters go, I'm not to crazy about the Fobus tactical holster,[$20] its hard on the finish of the gun and is a hard to draw, but would be my choice for canoe or kayaking, a better rig is the leather Don Hume JIT slide #30C [$21} or even better still is the Uncle Mike Mirage [$30] that I also use for my .38 snubbie, [both guns fit] I own all 3 holsters. I feel I'm going to like the P-22 the more I shoot and carry it, so far, I'm completely satisfied with it. With the low cost of .22 ammo, you can afford to shoot and get good with your pistol, My son hasn't fired his .45 in over a year, and then only a box of 20rds, I shoot every time I get the chance, love those .22's, I have a CCW and carry a NAA mini-mag .22mag. full time. Keep them in the 10 ring.

Just picked up a P22 today. Very eye catching piece look forward to shooting it. Have a Smith 422 and believe you me if you ever come across one get it. Super accurate and easy to handle, eats any ammo you throw at it.

I bought a P22 last week -- black, short barrel, s/n L###### -- and took it to the range yesterday. Probably put 200-250 rounds through it with one FTF and one stove pipe which is about what I expect from a .22LR auto. Overall I'm pleased with the gun as it has nice looks, nice ergonomics (I switched to the bigger backstrap) and I'm able to shoot it well. Takedown was easy but trying to put it back together w/o the plastic guide rod extension was aggravating. Manual isn't too well written on this point but after a while I figured it out so cleaning is pretty easy now. Nice gun, ez to handle and cheap to acquire and shoot.

Looking to get a laser and leaning more towards the Viridian as opposed to the Walther red laser.

I ended up buying a Viridian laser (green) which was an interesting switch from the Crimson Trace grips (red) on my S&W K-frame .357 Mag. The green is a lot more visible than the red but both are adequate. From what I can tell, the Viridian is a little larger than the Walther laser.

Went back to the range today and sighted in the laser. When all is said and done I could put shots in a 3" dia. circle at 7 yards. For me, that's darn good, especially with a 3.4" barrel. The laser really shows you that, even though you might think you're Mr. Rock-Steady-Grip, there's a whole lotta shakin' goin' on.

After my initial trip to the range, I stripped the pistol and cleaned it thoroughly which was easy once I figured out how to use the 'helper' plastic rod to get the recoil spring back in. I used some 'dry' lubricant (Teflon micro-beads in a hexane solvent spray) for the first time. Highly recommended! After I was done shooting, it seemed like there was much less mess to clean when compared to using oil. When I went to the range this time I had no failures with about 300 rounds.

I used Remington Golden Bullets (36 gr. HP), Federal plated (36 gr. HP)--both of those were in the 525 round box from Walmart--and Winchester Super X (40 gr. HP) all with no problem.

BOUGHT IT FRIDAY SHOT IT FRIDAY SATURDAY AND SUNDAY . WONDERFUL. FUNCTIONED PERFECTLY. CCI MINI MAG IS ALL I USE ANYWAY. IT IS AS ACCURATE AS I AM. SHOT A RATTLER.

This is the perfect weapon 4 a single lady..

I have noticed that many people are looking for spare parts for the P-22..I have searched the net for a month and have come up with only one dealer that fits the requirement of 100% Walther parts..WWW.CARLWALTHER.COM I have found another that has some awesome parts..but, I am sure they are not original.. WWW.TACTICALINC.COM...Give me some feed back on this!!

I have been looking at P22's. I really like the gun. But in the state (Nebraska)that I live the gun sells for over $300. I have a permit in the state that I live. Is there any way to buy a gun in other states? From the posts it seems the P22 is cheaper every where else.

I have owned a P22 for about two years now and love it. In terms of accuracy - it is very accurate due to its fixed barrel. the sights hinder accuracy a bit but aftermarket sights are available. On the subject of reliability - my p22 definately had a break in period where occasionaly it would have a failure to feed. I never had a problem with the slide not locking or FTE. After a box or two of bulk ammo (500 -700 rnds) the gun really came around. I shoot this piece all the time b/c its cheap and I can't even remember the last time I've had a malfunction. The action is very light and quick - you can let ten rounds fly down range as fast as you can pull the trigger. I love this little gun FOR its accuracy and reliability contrary to what the author says. No offense to the author but writing an article on a gun that you shot for 15 minutes doesn't do it justice - the P22 is a great little gun.

Husband gave me a P22 in June for my birthday. Very accurate and reliable. No jamming problems. The earlier guns jammed more. Manufacturer worked out the problems.
We chose this gun because of my small hands. It fits me great. I've practiced enough so that I can shoot with either hand. As for protection I have not doubt a 22 will work great. I've seen a 6 point deer drop with one shot to the head with a 22. Accuracy is all it takes. Love my Walther.

Husband gave me a P22 in June for my birthday. Very accurate and reliable. No jamming problems. The earlier guns jammed more. Manufacturer worked out the problems.
We chose this gun because of my small hands. It fits me great. I've practiced enough so that I can shoot with either hand. As for protection I have not doubt a 22 will work great. I've seen a 6 point deer drop with one shot to the head with a 22. Accuracy is all it takes. Love my Walther.

Husband gave me a P22 in June for my birthday. Very accurate and reliable. No jamming problems. The earlier guns jammed more. Manufacturer worked out the problems.
We chose this gun because of my small hands. It fits me great. I've practiced enough so that I can shoot with either hand. As for protection I have not doubt a 22 will work great. I've seen a 6 point deer drop with one shot to the head with a 22. Accuracy is all it takes. Love my Walther.

I just wanted to say that I've owned a P22 for almost two years now and I've had minimal issues:

(-) I constantly kept one magazine full at 10rds so it tended to jam; not a big problem since the spring just needed some stretching.

(-) Oil keeps seeping out of the right side of the slide, I'm not sure if it's just had too much of it but it's gone on from the day I bought it at the store.

(+) I have small hands and the adjustable grips and finger rest on the bottom make the perfect fit.

(+) Pretty easy to take care of, cleaning takes little time.

(+) Pretty accurate for a 22lr in a 3.4" barrel, I recommend Winchester Xpert ammo at 36 grain, it's worked for me pretty well.

Overall a nice pistol for its size, power, and value. Another handy item for the zombie apocalypse. ;)

I bought a Walther P22 last weekend (no cooling period here in Montana!!) and I love it. I have to say though that I was disappointed with the 200 Super X rounds that I put through it. The loads were inconsistent so I couldn't count on the accuracy. I have heard that CCI mini-mags are the thing to try (Stingers too but they're too expensive for plinking) so I will probably try that next. It's my first pistol (I hunt with a Savage .243) and I'm having loads of fun with it. Cost me $275 at a local store.

It's a beautiful tool and I love the way it feels - I just need to try a few different kinds of ammo.

Very disappointed due to feeding problems using Federal bulk (550 rounds/box) ammo from Walmart. I will try Winchester and/or CCI to try to solve the problem. If more expensive ammo doesn't work, back to the manufacturer it goes (gut feeling is that the magazines are not working well enough). If I can get the gun to work reliably, I'm sure it will be one my favorites. If not, I feel ripped off. BTW - anyone have experience with the Bersa Firestorm .22 LR pistol?

I have had my P22 for 2 years and love it. Its not my primary carry pistol-- I only carry it when wearing light clothes in the Arizona summer (primary carry gun is my .40 Sig Pro SP2022). I like the velocitor cartridges from CCI and its never had a problem with them. I consider this walther to be pretty accurate and for the way it feels, I think this is an overall great pistol.

I have had my P22 for 2 years and love it. Its not my primary carry pistol-- I only carry it when wearing light clothes in the Arizona summer (primary carry gun is my .40 Sig Pro SP2022). I like the velocitor cartridges from CCI and its never had a problem with them. I consider this walther to be pretty accurate and for the way it feels, I think this is an overall great pistol.

Where is the best place to buy the suppressor fror my cute little weapon

Never mind!! I found some neat stuff for my little gun..I see a lot of you are complaining about this little weapon..Is anyone interested in selling??

Does anyone know if they have gotten past the "-A" designator on the magazines? I recently picked up a P22 and both of the magazines are "-B". The test cartridge from the factory is dated September 6, 2007, so I am assuming this is gun was made earlier this year. Does anyone know what the difference between the -A and -B magazines? In all my research, I have not found any reference to the -B mags.

Has anyone used the +3 Follower that increases the mag capacity to 13? You can find them on ebay. You replace your factory follower with this aftermarket one and you can fill it with 13 rounds....

To every one who has experienced problems with jamming or slide failure, it is not a problem with the gun. Problems of this variety are caused by using a low grain/low velocity bullet, with less powder there is less force to push back the slide, if the slide does not go back, the shell catcher will not release the spent cartraidge. (Great gun bought it used, had it for tow years now, only one day i had trouble because of low velocity target shooting bullets.)

Just saw a P22 and suppressor at the local gun show and decided to look into them. Although it may not be as easy, is there any other 22 pistol out there that can easily accept a suppressor? What about the 22 conversion kits for a 45? Thanks. Bill

Dave,

Check out the article on Wikipedia.org about the P22. It talks about the "B" mags. BTW, recently purchased a P22--LOVE IT! A beautiful gun!

I've recently purchased a P22 (limited edition set - Lxxxxx series - that includes both barrels, the stablizer, an extra magazine, and a carrying case). I found it online at WWW.Keepshooting.com. I noticed that they raised the price by $50 after I bought mine. I do appreciate this forum. I read through it for several weeks before deciding to buy the gun - despite the several negative comments. I took the advice of those posts that loved the gun and stripped and cleaned it before shooting it. I used the recommended CCI mini-mags. I fired 80 rounds on the first outing - this was the first semi-auto pistol I'd ever fired - and ended with a 4" 10 shot grouping at 20 yards. I had NO problems of any kind. Well, I did have a problem leaving the range, but I only had a short time. I plan to go back tomorrow. The gun is a blast to shoot. I have small hands, so the fit is fine. I was anticipating problems with reassembling the gun after cleaning it, but I didn't really have any. The posts here were helpful in avoiding the problems. Next step is getting the wife out to shoot it. If she likes it (I'm bettng she will), I may be one of those posts that talks about the two P22's they own. I would like to know if anyone has and can comment on the various laser sights (Walther, Viritian, and the cheap $30 knockoffs). Are they worth it? Which ones work?

Hey hmm to the autor there is no West and East germany ;) so please change the W.Germany to just Germany Thx man

This gun makes me feel more like James Bond than any other one I have shot. To all the naysayers, first, Walther knew about the early problems and thus fixed them. Second, this gun is JUST cool! There is no other reason to own it. If you own a gun to ENJOY it, then this is perfect. If you have some other reason, then look elsewhere.

This gun has actually peaked my interest in the P99. Maybe for Christmas!

Peace!!!

I spent hours reading these posts and found them very helpful/informative. Thank you for that.

I recently purchased my first semi-auto (Walther P22) at a gun show... I absolutely couldn't wait to go shoot it. Being a woman, I found that it fit my hand perfectly, has little recoil and after shooting it am extremely comfortable with it.

My husband helped to get me familiar as I have only owned a 38 snub nose prior to this one. I absolutely recommend having someone knowledgable teach you the ins and outs. (of any gun)

My P22 has a serial number Lxxxxxx (2007) and my magazine is a "B". To answer the question previously posted about the difference in the "A" and "B" magazine, I found the answer on Wikipedia: "There are three revisions of the Walther P22 magazine as the original design was prone to feed failures. Walther corrected the issue by modifying the feed ears and adding a short 3/8" slot which allows rounds to stagger as they approach the top of the magazine. The second version of the magazine is designated with an 'A' after the part number. Later versions of the 'A' magazine have an elongated 1" stager slot which further improves the magazine's performance. Finally Walther has released a 'B' version which is made of thicker steel, has a tall spring retaining nub and retains the 1" stager slot."

I shot about 110 rounds altogether: 60 CCI Minimags and 50 Federals. I had only two issues where the bullet didn't reload and I had to re-cock the gun (this was with the Federals) Other than that I LOVED it. I'm actually glad it happened because now I know how to handle the issue. My front site had to be slightly adjusted as it shot a little low initially.

My basic reason for purchase is self/home protection. I am very confident that if an intruder were to enter my home (if my husband didn't get to him first) I could handle this gun with confidence and accuracy.

I'm so pleased with my purchase and highly recommend it for women. I cannot wait to go back to the range!!

I hope this was a little helpful... especially for you ladies. :)

Great gun. Although the takedown button took me a while to figure out how to get it down. I actually had to use a good deal of force on one side then the other to get it down. It has gotten easier as I have used it more.

Also struggled with getting the thing back together after disassembling it for a good cleaning. That darn spring really gave me trouble till I fooled with it for a while. Finally, figured it out.

Great gun, well made, and lots of fun to shoot. I only get misfires when I shoot low quality ammo like the Federal bulk. When I shoot CCI Stingers, I have no problems at all. The problem, I reason, is not the gun, but the ammo.

ive had a p22 for about a year and have put many rounds through it after purchasing it i put about a thousand rounds through it with all differnt kinds of ammo to get a feel for it. i ran into a problem though when firing the saftey would pop out of fire and into safe about every 2nd round. i would fire and it would move half way and after the 2nd round it would be in safe. if i didnt pay attention i would get a bang bang click to help anyone else with this problem just put 2 drops of jb weld in the indents for the fire position let it dry then put about 100 rounds through it. the saftey will work itself free from the jb weld but it will stay in the indentations making for a tight fit when switching from safe to fire and keep it in the fire position. hope i helped anyone with the same problem

ive had a p22 for about a year and have put many rounds through it after purchasing it i put about a thousand rounds through it with all differnt kinds of ammo to get a feel for it. i ran into a problem though when firing the saftey would pop out of fire and into safe about every 2nd round. i would fire and it would move half way and after the 2nd round it would be in safe. if i didnt pay attention i would get a bang bang click to help anyone else with this problem just put 2 drops of jb weld in the indents for the fire position let it dry then put about 100 rounds through it. the saftey will work itself free from the jb weld but it will stay in the indentations making for a tight fit when switching from safe to fire and keep it in the fire position. hope i helped anyone with the same problem

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I just picked up one of these bad boys a couple weeks ago and have already fired over 500 rounds through it. I chose the 5 inch barrel with the 550 pack of Remington Golden High-Velicoty ammo. The gun is great and it has very little recoil which makes for faster and tighter hits. Only problem I ran into (which might of had something to do with the type of ammo I bought) was when the bullet was loading into the chamber. The bullet gets stuck on the little slide piece directly below the barrel opening. If you cock back the slide you can see this little oval shaped slide and the front of the bullet gets stuck there. Could also have to do with how the bullets were loaded into the mag. Either way, this gun is fun, accurate, and the ammo is cheap. With the cost of ammo these days, can't beat that. I would reccomend this hand gun to anyone!

After reading many reviews of differing pistols, I'm planning on buying the P22. I have one simple question and would like input. Which p22 is the smarter buy, the one with 3.4" barrel or the 5". Is the 5" that more accurate because of the longer barrel? I know it is probably preference but it is also about the money. Thanks

P22CA 3.4 barrel- External hammer is making contact with the underside of the slide I removed the recoil spring assembly and put the slide on and it does not move in a free motion! Does anybody have the same problem? I have shot about 1000 rounds through it without any jamming even with the slide problem. I ran it through all kinds of ammo and noticed it had a match chamber after trying to fire CCI Stinger (half missfired)with some problems. After all the tests I now use CCI Velociter 40 grain exclusively. This Walther is very lite,compact,accurate 22 pistol in 3.4" and I feel it is more accurate than it's user is. That being said I would not go to the 5" but I would love to get my hands on the new Walther PPS in 9mm.

My p22 with 3.4" barrel (SERIAL# L187*** / -A mags) has the same problem with the hammer rubbing against the bottom of the slide. I've shot 1000's of rounds through it without any problems except a few stovepipes due to a limp wrist. (My buddy had the stovepipes) I mainly shoot Remington golden bullets with no problems, although occasionally I'll splurge and buy some Stingers or Minimag. Overall I'm very pleased whith this gun. GC- You may be dissapointed with new PPS, it looks great and conceals well, but, It just doesn't feel very good in the hand. If you were interested in the PPS for CCW it should be fine.

My p22 with 3.4" barrel (SERIAL# L187*** / -A mags) has the same problem with the hammer rubbing against the bottom of the slide. I've shot 1000's of rounds through it without any problems except a few stovepipes due to a limp wrist. (My buddy had the stovepipes) I mainly shoot Remington golden bullets with no problems, although occasionally I'll splurge and buy some Stingers or Minimag. Overall I'm very pleased whith this gun. GC- You may be dissapointed with new PPS, it looks great and conceals well, but, It just doesn't feel very good in the hand. If you were interested in the PPS for CCW it should be fine.

i love my p22 but having problem with safety. lever on right fell completely off losing it and screw. any one else havining this problem?

i thought the p22 was the best gun ever it has the stopping power of a 45 apc rond and the sound of a cap gun

i thought the p22 was the best gun ever it has the stopping power of a 45 apc rond and the sound of a cap gun

Bought the P22 for the wife, who's small and delicate build wouldn't allow her to squeeze the trigger of a .38 snubby without straining.

She LOVES it. I love it, too -- now that I know exactly what kind of ammo it likes. CCI Mini-Mags work best for this one. I was in stove-pipe heaven when trying the Winchester X.22s from Wal-mart. Didn't like that round a bit. Switched back to the Mini-Mags and never have problems.

Added the Walther P22 under-the-barrel laser, and it's a sweeeet piece. I love the design and accuracy. Loads of fun to shoot!

As for using it for CC, I certainly wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. 10 rounds of hollow-point isn't anything to scoff at, even at .22 cal.

I bought my p22 a couple of months ago, second hand, 5" barrel. Serial starts with "H" so i quess it's made november 2003. Both mags serial ends with "a", but i only use the one with extented finger rest, becouse I have pretty large and slightly mutilated hands. A little pipe-bomb accindent at age of 12. I have no clue how many rounds have been shot before me, but I had put about 3000 rounds through. I started with remington thunderbolts, 2 bricks , but cause they're wax coated they mess up the gun fast. Now I use federal champions, a little more expensive but more pleasant to use. At local gunshop (did I mention I live in Finland?) a brick of thunderbolts cost 16.90€, that's about 25$, and federals cost 18.50€, about 27.50$. I tried some eleys and winchesters, but they cost about 5 bucks 50 rounds, so I use mostly federals.

I should be pretty good shooter, won some stupid trap-competition in school and earned golden shooting medal in army, all that kind of boolsheet, but nowadays my hands shake a little cause a high blood pressure and a drinking period some years ago. Average 43 with 5 rounds, 25 meters (82 feet) 50cm target (about 20"). Couple a time full 50, sometimes as low as 15 if I have a bad day, usually caused by insomnia, sometimes I have to drink lots of coffee at work and caffeine rises my blood pressure even higher.

About 20 jams and 10 misfires so far, usually caused by dirty gun or dud. I can live with that, after all it's .22 rimfire. One was my own mistake, I tried some new kind of hold and slide hit my left thumb. No protective goggles, I got blood in my eye. Usually I shoot with one hand, better aim, because sights are further away that way.

Never had issue with loose barrel nut, and now I have a threadet suppressor adapter in place. Upper stove bolt, the one you can see under slide without taking the gun further apart, did come loose sometimes. I replaced that with torx-headed one. No problem since.

I bought silencer couple a weeks a go, pretty clumsy one, about 1" width and 8" long. Price was 25€, less than 40 bucks. In finland we don't need to pay any taxes or licenses for suppressors, anyone can purchase as many as he/she desires.

But purchasing a handgun is long and complicated procedure, especially after that school massacre last week. We have that baboon for a prime minister who takes use of this kind of events only to collect some more votes, trying to prohibit all handguns for civilians. A freaking necrophile, if you ask me.

Last week I bought uncle mike's sidekick vertical holster, size 5, open end. Fits perfectly even with the suppressor on. Size six might be even better for 3.4" p22, but 3.4" version is already prohibited in Finland as being a "pocket gun".

Enjoy your shooting, and remember, safety first.

Anybody have a p22 ( or other 22 pistol) they would like to sell? Charlotte NC area.
Please write jnsjr58@yahoo.com

You're an idiot if you think a .22 handgun is not good for defensive use. Have you ever heard of the man that shot himself in the head and the 22 bullet came out of his neck? That's because they bounce around all in you, and they fuck you up while their doing it. I hate when someone calls a .22 a "woman's" gun, because it's not. I don't give a shit if you're shooting a .22, or a 9mm, you're going to stop someone if they are coming after you regardless what gun you use. And stop being a pig, I know women that could probably shoot circles around you.

I need a good "concealed" holster for this gun, any suggestions?

I just picked one up used for $199 (less tax). It is a serial # L model....works great after 1000 rounds, however, the previous owner no longer had the front sights (save #3), the larger handstrap, or the locking key. Does anyone know where I can find these. I am mostly interested in the sights, because I feel that #2 is the elevation I need after shooting my friends' p22's? Thanks.

I just picked one up used for $199 (less tax). It is a serial # L model....works great after 1000 rounds, however, the previous owner no longer had the front sights (save #3), the larger handstrap, or the locking key. Does anyone know where I can find these. I am mostly interested in the sights, because I feel that #2 is the elevation I need after shooting my friends' p22's? Thanks.