Les Jones

Yeahh. But ya gotta admit it's one cute piece!

I hated to be so negative. I generally find something good to say about any gun I shoot. The one I shot jammed so much that I just couldn't enjoy it. To be fair, I should have tried a different brand of ammo to see if that made a difference.

What do you think of the "smaller" Kimber's? They seem to be the hot piece at all the gun shows I have been to...

I've shot a Kimber Stainless Ultra Carry. It's extremely accurate, and very controllable for such a compact .45. Kimbers are super nice.

i had problems with my p-22 jamming as well, but I switched to some better ammo and haven't had a problem since.

When I bought my P22 I was informed that I should use only the best ammo for it to reduce the chances of jamming, and so far I have had no problems. Honestly I don't know why I bought it except that I really loved the feel of it in my hand, and it was something that I could afford.

I have a P22 that I have put close to 10000 rnds through. Its very picky about its ammo. I've found that I got the best performance from Federal ammunition, the bulk pack of hollow points they carry at walmart is great. I've tried many kinds of ammo in it, it seems to be ok with the CCI Stinger (pricey though) and the CCI MiniMag. It also works well with the CCI Subsonic stuff. I tried out some of their shotshell loads in it, it wouldnt even cycle. It also doesnt shoot the remington "Gold Bullet" very well, but its purely accuracy problems. I have all new 44-a magazines for it, and feed problems are almost non-existant (1 in 500 or so). I have never seen a jam like the one you described, but depending on the ammo I have seen plenty of misfires (anywhere from 1 in 500 to 10 or 15 in 500). I was wondering if anyone had fired the Aguila SSS 60gr in a P22? Does it work? Well, thats about it.

I picked up a P22 recently because it just looked so neat. I also found it to be ammo sensitive, but go that straightened out pretty quickly. I primarily bought to use with .22 supressor I already had - it really works great witht he threaded barrel being very convenient. It is a lot of fun to shoot. The comment around the P22 not being a target gun is true, I use a Walther GSP for that, but it a pretty good plinker. I also use it for cheap training before I switch over to my P99QA in .40S&W. All in all a pretty fun gun. Plus you can dress it up with a red dot or laser sight if you like to play around with that sort of thing.

I just bought a P22 and am currently waiting my 10 day cool off period in california. I really like the look and feel of the gun. plus it only cost me $300 bucks so I thought that was a good deal. I originally wanted the PPK in stainless. that was my first choice. but I would have had to order it and it might have cost me close to $600 bucks. what do you guys know about the ppk and do you think I should have paid the extra money for it as opposed to the P22? and how do I go about ordering a silencer for it from the internet?

It depends on what you want the gun for. If it's for self-defense, I wouldn't depend on the P22. The PPK isn't a huge powerhouse, but it's an improvement. Have you looked at the SIG P232? It's a near-clone of the PPK and a great gun. I imagine it's a little cheaper than the PPK.

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To get a silencer you have to go to a Class III firearms dealer, pay the $200 tax, fill out the BATF paperwork (the dealer will walk you through it) and go through a background check.

What should I expect to pay for this gun? Gunbroker.com prices seem high. Maybe this gun has risen in price since it first came out. Thanks.

It seems to go for around $300 at the gun shows.

I picked up a Browning Buckmark for $259 today. I've shot both guns, and the Buckmark has a better trigger and will reliably feed more brands of ammo. The one I bought today has the hi-viz front sight.

As far as price, i gave $252 for mine in August. I'd recommend you really shop around. I called half a dozen gun stores, and most of them were asking quite alot. If you are in VA by chance, check out Virginia Arms in Manassas, thats where I picked mine up. I chose the p22 over the rest of the 22 market based on price and on looks.

Little report from my range visit today:
Gun: Walther P22
Ammo: 1 550 rnd Federal Bulk Pack HV Hollow Point
1 50 rnd CCI Stinger
Outcome: Stingers somewhat inaccurate, Federal spot on.
Malfunctions: 1 of the Stingers got hung up in the mag and rammed into the top of the chamber. Suspect dirty mag to blame. 1 or 2 misfires on the Federal, but 1 or 2 in 550 isnt bad.

great thanks for your help. I bought the P22 just for fun. I have a Glock 30 that I use for self-defense and also a Beretta 92SB compact which is the nicest handgun I have ever shot. I had no idea that getting a silencer would be so expensive. I have no need for one but I think it would be fun to have. after the $200 tax and the purchase of the silencer i would be paying more for the silencer then for them P22. is there any other cheaper less hassle way to get a silencer?

Hi Les -

When you say thet the P22 is "clearly not intended to be a target piece. The designer's choices - double-action trigger, three-dot sights, compact size - all point to a defensive weapon."

you miss a third catagory, which is a hunting weapon. I use a suppressed P22 to hunt blue grouse in the NW Rocky Mountains. It's a great gun to carry while you're shooting elk with a .270 or .308. If you're sitting on a stand or jump shooting elk, you don't want to make lots of noise when you happen across a small flock of grouse. A suppressed P22 is the *perfect* hunting weapon in this situation. Grouse are pretty easy to approach at close range and a suppressed .22 doesn't make enough noise to scare off the big game.

Richard: no legal way. I wouldn't suggest any illegal ways, since owning an unlicensed silencer is a federal offense.

is the p22 a very accurat gun? i am thinging about buying one mainly for plinking and target shooting.. and i like the looks..

I did some research and since I live in California it is nearly impossible to get a silencer and a carry permit. most states there is a class and a tax involved and your good to go. But in my state you have to get a class 3 license which invoves signitures and other stuff. Im only 22 and i dont think the sheriff in my county is going to give me permission to carry or have a silencer anytime soon!

I have been trying to buy one for a couple of weeks but the local shops are all waiting for shipments. They are going for $199 at a couple of shops and up to $256 at others. This is for the shorter barrel (3-1/2" I think)with the black slide. It was about $250 for one with a nickel slide. The models with the 5" barrel started out at $259. These prices are around Ogden, UT.

This may seem off topic, since I haven't shot, and don't own a P22 (though I really want one), but I'm not suprised that the bulk Federal .22Lr's seem to work well as a couple people have said. I had a Remington 597 .22 rifle and it absolutely hated Remington's own "Golden Bullet" bulk LR ammo, jamming once every 2 shots or so! However once I switched to the Federal 500 Rd bulk pack ammunition (which they also had readily available at Wal-Mart) I couldn't make the gun jam, no matter how I fired it. On close examination, I think the Golden Bullet has this waxy coating all over, which makes it sticky in the chamber, going in and being extracted, while the Federal rounds seem as if they're actually slightly smaller in diameter than the Remington, and have no wax on the casing itself - it drops right into the chamber on my rifle. Smooth ammo makes for smooth cycling, I guess.

Recently fired my P22 at an indoor range. Sorry some people have experienced problems with theirs. I experienced no problems, and shot where I aimed it. Used Remington ammo. Based on prior experience of carrying firearms for more than 35 years on duty, I would not hesitate in using my P22 as a concealed carry weapon if I thought I needed it. I have over the years fired other handguns that did have problems, plus some of my own. But having carried for duty, and worked as a range coach, I recommend somebody looking at buying a Walther P22, buy it if you like it.Don't pay a lot of attention to what everybody says. You either like it or you don't. Take it out and shoot it, and have some fun.

I recently purchased a P22 and I love it. Clever design, well made, and I have never had so much fun shooting this thing. Plus, the price was $209 here in Ohio for the 3.4" bbl. The only negative experience so far has been with Federal Classic HV ammo -- I had 3 failures to fire in one brick of 100 rds. All of the rims were well dented from the firing pin, all 3 rounds fired after inspection and reloading, and no problems since then. With CCI MiniMag and Winchester Wildcat ammo, the gun has been flawless for the last 400 rounds or so. I've decided that this was probably just an isolated problem with that particular brick of Federal Classic ammo, but I haven't shot any since then.

All in all, I would say that if the gun feels good in your hand, then I think you will really like it.

I just purchased a P22 and I'm still waiting for the 10 day cooling off period to end. Thanks for the various posts on the subject of which ammo works well with the P22. I have Federal ammo bulk on hand so I can't wait to hit the range and get to plinking!

I had trouble with the remington 22LR bulk pack also. It didn't jam often once every 40 or so. I did have a few duds that after being put back into the chamber went off the second time. why is that?

i would like to ask if i have a compensated walther p22 can i use my supressor with it?

Richard, i would think you would be able to use your supressor because the compensator is farther down on the barrel then the adapter has to be. So the silencer can still be attached, but the supressor AND compensator will damage the velocity of the bullet, very much so, i would think.

I own a target p22 and am researching the perfect accesories for it. I love it based on it's look and feel, as i am not a big man. But i have experienced while shooting it jams much like the ones written by the reviewer. A bullet will get logged into the barrel and i use a spare case to empty it out. This can be explained by the perpetual use of the cheapest ammo at he store. One problem with this jam i find is that when it sadly does occur it can be hard to get the weapon to de-cock and again admit another round. I always find away to unlock my weapon into the world of working firearms but seem to always forget the exact way i went about doing this... has anyone else had any of the same problems?
On last thing, i watched the short video of the silenced p22 and good lord! that baby is silent. A 22 may not be the perfect choice for a self defense weapon, but if you are trying to be silent about somehting this pistol is the way to go. I wish so much i could have a supressor to call my own but it would be just so painful to have to endure paying all that tax money, i was wondering if someone could answer some questions about the supressor and it's laws for me.
1. once you pay the $200 tax, do you have to pay then an anual tax each year?
2. does this tax include all supressors for all the weapons you own or just this own silencer?
3. Is there any possibly way to get around this law, like buying an adapter adn then a make it yourself silencer or soemthing, anythign to get this silencer without paying that horrible tax?

Thank you

thanks! for sharing the info's

i've had a walther p22 for about 2 months now and love it! i've read through these comments only to hear that the federal bulk pack of 22's shoot the best out of the beautiful handgun! the funny thing is that i have had many problems with the federals! my pistol tends to shoot the remington "gold bullet" 22's in the bulk pack superbly. i also agree that it is not the most accurate handgun, but what do you expect with its short barrel? my experiance with this gun has been extremly awesome! it seems to shoot straight enough to hit a running rabbit, and in my opinion it is a perfect concealed defense gun! its not the power, it is if you can shoot the gun well! this pistol (walther p22) is a magnificent tool!

yeah I would suggest this gun to anyone who likes to plick, hunt small game, and all around target shoot. I am also confindent enough that the P22 is an excellenct choice for a self defense weapon.

My brother and I recently recieved a Walther P22 target pistol for Christmas, and found it to be an extremely fun piece. Using Federal .22lr (from Wal-Mart) we shot both guns over 100 times with no misfires, jams, or foul-ups of any kind. Also the pistol proved to be very accurate with the 5" barrel, and the three dot sighting system proved a quick easy way to get lined on the target. Upon cleaning the gun after 100+ shots, there was little to no powder residue in the chamber, thanks to good engineering on walther's part. The ambidextrious clip release and safety were also convenient and added to the enjoyment of the firearm. So far I am impressed not only by the design of the gun but the looks and amount of enjoyment it supplies while shooting. I look forward to shooting this pistol for a long time to come and recommend it to anyone who just wants a reliable and fun piece.

The longer barrel is not a compensator, it's a barrel weight with slots in it, which make it look like a compensator. Putting a suppressor on the extended version is even better than with the sharter barrel, it's longer, for more accuracy/stability, and will be quieter when shooting.

I have been thinking about buying a walther p22 and i have looked at many, i think i will buy one this week, i was wondering if there was any little tricks to making sure it worked good all the time. Wish me luck on my new gun!!!

I came upon this site while looking for a contact for walther online. I bought my p22 for $229 back in Oct 03. I happen to live in Northern California BTW. The P22 I bought is nice to look at but very unreliable. It jams a lot. Actually i never had a gun jam as much as this gun. I've cleaned it, cleaned it, changed ammo brands several times, and still has feed problems/failure to chamber next round after spent round is ejected. I will be sending the gun back to walther for repair. I heard mostly good reports but mine seems very poor. Also the gun came new in the box with poor sighting. It would shoot low right every time no matter what ammo from a fixed bench. I had to change the front sight and adjust the rear to the left quite far before I got a straight shooter. I own other handguns and WILL NOT be buying another walther. I knew it would never match my glock or other guns I have but come on, for the money I think it should at least fire through a complete magazine without a failure. Do yourself a favor and buy a buckmark, at least it will work..

You need the right type of ammunition for your pistol. It's a pretty damn high quality german pistol with very tight tolerances. I have found that CCI works great, maybe one jam in 500 or so rounds, and that's because the .22 is a very dirty round, and they gum up especially in semi auto pistols.

Try all different types of ammo, federal included. I have tried federal, and literally every shot jammed.

I think one of the major problems with the P22 is the extractor isn't "sharp" enough to dig into the cartridge to eject it effectively. I am willing to bet someone makes aftermarket ejectors for it, or a gunsmith could even modify yours possibly.

Also, there is a roll pin next to the safety switch that has a tendency to come out. I'm figuring out a way to get it to stick in, but until then, I can just not use the safety, or push the pin back in. It really doesn't fall out, but it works loose, and makes the safety stick. Maybe Cyanocrylic (superglue) can fix this.

Other than that, the pistol is incredible. I can hit pop cans reliably at 25 yards while standing! It's truly and accurate pistol, it's just that it's so short, so any little movement will cause the pistol to shoot off target, giving the illusion that it's "inaccurate" when in reality, you can bench it and it'll be just as accurate as many centerfire large caliber pistols.

It's got a crisp report and cycle. It's a very "sweet piece" as I like to call it. A man from the NRA who was on the range asked me if I was shooting a 9mm, so I think that speaks for itself.

If you're going for long shots, I would recommend getting the longer version, as the added length is more than enough for a bunch more stability.

Anyone who wants to buy one, go for it. It's the most fun pistol I have ever shot in my life, and cheapest! You will not be disappointed, unless you are totally inept when it comes to firearm maintenance and care. =)

I'm only 16, but I gave my father the cash to buy one (only 130 bucks I believe) and I love the thing. Next I'm either going to buy a Walther P99, and something along the lines of a Glock 17)

Howdy,
I own a P22 (3.5") and P99 (9mm). I love my Walthers! In the P22, I have had problems with misfires, stovepipes, and jams, but only with cheap and/or lead ammo. I now only use CCI Minimag or Velocitor rounds. The P22 seems to like a hot, copper jacketed round. I've had no problems since this change.

However, I believe I have a barrel problem. It looks as if the rifling has smoothed out (along the top half of the barrel), and that the barrel is discolored. I think I may have put too many rounds through it at once and overheated it. Has anyone else had seen this? I've read on a couple of other sites (a while ago) of some barrel issues, but now I can't find the articles.

Thanks.

I would check out a new barrel from www.ebay.com

They are fairly cheap (under 50$) I believe, and it's a dropin fit.

disculpen el idioma. hace algun tiempo adquiri una walther p22. y he comprovado que tiene algun problema con la municion que se utilice. yo no he tenido problemas con balas de baja velocidad como cci std velocity, cci competition, geco, winchester t22, ni con algunas balas de alta velocidad com winchester super X, cci minimag, pero obtuve problemas con winchester Xpert hollow point y con remington de hiper alta velocidad, pero los problemas de municion los he resuelto lubricando la municion antes de ser usada, con aceite o con cera ya que a mi entender el problema radica en que la capsula se expande y se pega a las paredes de la recamara. (prueben con WD40) saludos desde uruguay!!

Since my last post (me being the guy that recieved a p22 for christmas) I have fired about 300 more rounds of federal ammunition through my pistol, making the overall total of rounds fired a little over 500, and i am very happy to say i still have not experienced any jams, misfires or any other mishaps as of yet, and i must say, i can't remember when the last time i had so much fun shooting.

I just purchased a Walther P-22. After having read this website, I thought twice about my decision but I am happy to say that I am impressed with the Walther. I put over 100 rounds through it shooting quickly yesterday and was impressed with its reliability. Then just for fun after the range, I sat in my living room at home and shot Aguila Colibris at a phone book with a target on it.

The pistol was very accurate with the Colibris however as should be expected, because they do not contain gunpowder, they do not allow the P22 to function in a semi-automatic mode.

Just a note, I am not a novice, I did not get the pistol because it matched anything or was cute. I do combat shooting so I am accustomed to having a high quality trigger pull, accurate weapon with good balance. If it came down to a duel or just a choice between pistols for personal defense, I would drop my sig p226, my tricked out 1911, my customized glock or possibly (but probably not) my cz-75 and choose the p-22.

Right now, I don't think I will have anything done to the trigger but I will be having the feeding ramp polished by my gunsmith to ward off any potential problems with loading.

I am 6'6" tall. I am a big guy with very big hands and I have no problem with the size of the grips at all.

Oh, one last thing, I would take this blogger with a grain of salt, a .22 cal is both accurate and extremely deadly - a perfect combination. Israeli Mossad as well as the CIA and a number of other secret services have been very successful with this caliber in offensive weapons. Its is all about how able you are with the weapon you choose. One police expert was quoted anonomously after the big bank robbery shoot out in LA in which the robber were equipped with converted AKs and body armor that what wasn't needed was police with M-16s in full auto as the body armor would have stopped the .223 round, what was needed was one cop who could shoot with a ruger 10-22 rifle (.22 cal) taking head shots one at a time with a.

hello, I need buy a Remington ammo, wich Remington ammo do you me recomend for my P22 thanks.

i have been hearing so many bad things about the Walther P22 on other website.Especially about jamming problems,do you really recomened this gun?Because i really want it it is an awesome looking gun looks very fun to shoot,but i am a little sceptical because it is a $300 gun and all i hear is jamming probelms and not to say about the accuracy that's another issue,Please let me know what you think should i buy or not?THANKS

oscar: buy a P22 with serial N xxxxxx and a A in the magazzines, is the recomendation of walther in the site

..."All P22 from serial no. "N xxxxxx" were modified (with new magazines, among other things).

Best regards,
Carl Walther GmbH "...

this serial works OK, my P22 serial "G" works very good.
bye

Hi LUIS B. and Thanks for the info could you give me the website you found this info so i can check it out,THANNKS

As far as accuracy is concerned I have had no problems with the p22, out of box the rear sight needed slight adjustment to the right side, however since the adjustment my brother and I have been able to hit empty 20 and 12 gauge shotgun shells standing upright and aligned from left to right shooting range style. Out of 10 clip loads we both averaged between 6-8 hits out of 10 aiming at something less than an inch wide. I also must take this chance to again brag on how clean the p22 seems to be after shooting well over 100 rounds and running a cleaning patch through the bore their was VERY little residue on the patch., also if you have problems with jams and other mishaps you have to remember that the .22 is a very dirty bullet, copper shavings are abundant when shooting a .22 caliber gun. The p22 is remarkable about ridding of most of the debris during regular function. The gun is not without fault but is still very reliable. If price is a problem, I recently went to a Gun Show in Mobile, AL and there was a p22 for $215.

I ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCED SEVERAL PROBLEMS WITH THE P22 . NOT ONLY WILL IT NOT COMPLETELY CYCLE WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT LOADS ,IT ALSO WONT ALWAYS LOAD THE NEXT ROUND . JUST RECENTLY THE SAFETY STARTED DROPPING ON IT OWN ON THE RETURN CYCLE . IT SEAMS LIKE THE SAFETY ROLL BAR IS CATCHING ON THE HAMMER . I HAVE WRITING WALTHER USA BUT NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE TO ANY OF MY PROBLEMS. THE GUN IS ACCURATE BUT VERY UNRELIABLE. I'M HOPING THAT WALTHER WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS PROBLEM FOR ME . IT SEEMS TO BE A MIXTURE OF THE RECOIL SPRING AND THE FIRING PIN MECHANISM . I DID FIND A SCREW LOOSE ON THE GUN , ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE GUN WITH SLIDE REMOVED NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE BARREL A PHILLIPS HEAD SCREW WORKED ITS WAY LOOSE . I RETIGHTENED IT WITH NO SUCCESS TO THE MALFUNCTION FIXTURE.I WAS HOPING SOMEONE ELSE WAS EXPERIENCING SIMILAR SAFETY LEVER PROBLEMS. I DIDNT NOTICE IT AT FIRST I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS MY THUMB RUBBING , BUT NO WAY I WOULD OF DEFINATELY FELT THAT. HELP !!!!!!!!

I have a L prefix in my serial number and A's following the serial on my mags.

I am using Federal Lightning in my P22 and have not had any problems with it thus far. I will probably be switching from federal to Aguila as I am really impressed with the overall quality of the Aguila amunition (Aguila Super Maximum hyper velocity and Aguila SSS). I haven't tried the Aguila SSS yet but the Aguila Super Maximum is a good choice as the recoil spring is too tight when it comes from the factory and walther failed to adequately fininshing all of the parts on the P22 which causes additional friction. (I have found spots on my slide even though I am not having problems where the slide is rubbing against the frame almost certainly making it more difficult for a standard velocity or subsonic round to adequately cycle.) This is the likely cause of some of the jamming that some have reported.

As far as finishing goes, I am not impressed with Walther, the gun is flawless on the outside but take off the barrel nut and what do you find? a barrel that looks like the tip was cut poorly with a hacksaw - no sanding or polish at all. Also, the feeding ramp is in serious need of a polishing to get around the pickieness about ammo brand. Additionally, the grooves on the slide need polished as do the grooves on the frame that connect to the slide. Lastly, they need to look in to a spring that is not specifically made with the expectation that shooters will be using hot 22 ammo. Never thought I would say this but it needs a slightly weaker spring (this does happen after a couple hundred rounds).

700rds and going strong with no problems.

Charles

Just so you all know, at least two of Walther's importers (Walther America and Earl's Repair Service, Inc.)officially recomend CCI MiniMags for use in the P22 although I haven't tried them they are supposed to function flawlessly.

WELL WALTHER CONTACTED ME BACK TODAY . THEY WANT ME TO SEND THEM BACK THE GUN SO THAT THEY CAN FIX IT . THEY ARE SENDING ME A CALL TAG TO SHIP IT BACK WITH . THEY SAID IT NEEDS SOME REFINEMENT DONE TO IT SUCH AS MAYBE POLISHING THE FEED RAMP, TUNING THE RECOIL SPRING DOWN , AND MODIFING THE MAGAZINES. MY GUNS SERIAL # STARTS WITH AN (L) AND MY MAGAZINE HAVE AN A ON THEM . I GUESS ILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS

I have just took a dilivery of a new Walther P22. It is a great gun to shoot and also small enough so it wont intimidate the shooter but designed well enough to intimidate who ever its pointed at. It is very fun at the gun range, which is where its sopposed to be. For a 22 caliber its is fun to shoot at targers but does not have enough stoping power for an attacker. The problems everyone seems to post is that its picky with its ammo. That is very true. The Walther P22 is very, very picky when it comes to ammunition. Some report problems with Federal, some with CCI and so on. I personaly had many problems with Federal ammo. It would jam, misfire, fail to even fire, and even fail to eject the empty shell. I bought some CCI ammo and havent seen a problem yet. It fires perfectly. So I guess it depends on the gun and what ammo it likes. Also beware that a 22 cal handgun needs its cleaning. So invest in a good cleaning kit with Hoppes cleaning formula. Other than that for the price this gun is a great buy.

the problems with P22 are in Germany P22 or USA P22 manufacture???

HOW DO I KNOW WHICH P22 IS MADE IN GERMANY AND USA? ALSO IS IT TRUE THAT THE GERMAN ONE IS BETTER THAN THE ONE MADE HERE IN THE US?THANKS

What kind of ammo do u guys recommend when using the suppresor on the P22?THANKS

CCI ammo worked well for me. Federal didnt. but some people have said that it works well with Federal. So I guess its up to the gun. My best advice is to try 1 of each brand ammo and see what happens, since 22 cal ammo is cheep. As which model is better, American or German I dont know. I think the German model would honestly be the best. American models are made by/licensed to S&W. There have been problems with this American model. Not with the gun but more with the magazine lips. This has been corrected.

I have had a P22 for almost a year. Aside from the safety mysteriously "walking" into the "on" position, this little pistol's performance is acceptable for the $199 I paid for it. It's also nice to have fully ambidextrous controls (I'm left handed).

However, Walther was not only no help when it came to fixing the safety issue, but they wanted personal information that they had no need for or right to (my date of birth, for example) to register the warranty.

Since they won't stand behind their product, I won't be giving them any more of my money. I have a Ruger MKII that shoots better and Ruger will stand behind their product, no questions asked.

Does anybody have any good info on how to use the sd22 suppressor the best way?do you add water to make it more silent? i now that SUBSONIC ammo is good but wahat kind?

WELL I RECEIVED A CALL TAG AND I SHIPPED IT BACK TO SMITH AND WESSON. NO COST TO ME WHAT SO EVER YET . THEY ASKED FOR A LIST OF THE PROBLEMS MY NAME ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER , NOTHING ELSE. THEY PAID FOR THE SHIPPING TOO. I SENT BACK THE GUN WITH THE 5 INCH BARREL AND BOTH MAGAZINES IN THE CASE. I COMPLAINED ABOUT THE BAD CYCLING AND THE SAFETY SELF ACTIVATION .

I bought my P22 several year ago. Its serial number starts with B and there is no letter on the serial of the mag. Is this one of the earliest ones made? I experienced some jamming. The nose of the bullet stuck at the bottom edge of the barrel at the top of the feed ramp. I found flat tipped bullets to be most problematic. On the whole however, the gun works fine. I did send it back - to Smith and Wesson who services Walther in usa - and they returned it saying it functions normally. I'm wondering if there are better magazines now I should get that stack the rounds nicer. Also, I was wondering if Walther has plans to discontinue the gun. It's tendency to jam, and for those wondering - it will jam - is a turn off, however well it functions otherwise.

The problem people are having with the shells not feeding or not loading right is due to the old clip. If you look on the number on the side of the clip (7 numbers) etc 256-87-98-A . The clips with the A after the number are the new style and seem to work fine with all ammo except of coarse the low grain such as the ratt shot and colibri target rounds. If you have clips with out the A at the end of the number that's your problem.And for the AMMO try HIGH VELOCITY AMMO like CCI stinger,CCI mini mag,CCI Velocitor,Eley Quik-Shok,Pleasew e-mail me back to see if your problems stop,GOOD LUCK!!!

I just got a used P22, serial number starts with an "A" and there is no "A" on the magazine. I have shot about 300 rounds out of it so far and I have only had one full clip of ten rounds shoot flawlessly so far. Almost every round I shoot, there is no jam or misfire, but the next round WILL NOT feed. One thing I did notice on this gun, if you remove the clip,pull the slide back, and slowly control the slide and while it returns, you will notice that the hammer actually catches on the 'roll' safety mechanism. this is the exact same spot that the slide gets stuck when it stops feeding a new bullet. If this does not happen with your P22 let me know. I will be getting a new mag I am hoping the new mag will allow the bullet to feed easier eliminating the problem. And I am sure a good polishing on the feed ramp will help with many of the ammo problems. I am used Federal HP and some CCI Blazers and I actually had fewer jams with the full lead blazers. However after 100-150 rounds there is enough fowling with lead round for a good cleaning.

I own a walther p22 with the combo short and long barrel. I have had problems with jams,failure to load but with only one of my magazines. The frame starts with L and both magazines end in A. The magazine that is problematic has peculiar problems no one has mentioned. It is difficult to insert, the trigger must be pulled, released and pulled again before the hammer will move, also the magazine fails to come out (must be pulled out) when the release is depressed. The other magazine has no problems with either feeding or jamming or any other problems mentioned. I did find a customer service number and I will call them soon. 1.800.372.6454 This web site mentions jamming issues and the magazine ending in 44-a must be replaced. Other than the one bad magazine the gun shoots very nicely and is an excellent choice for plinking and target shooting. I would like to get a surpessor but in Massachusetts the gun laws are tough and I doubt it is possible. http://www.thearmedcitizen.com/handguns/santa.htm

I love my P22 it shoots great. One problem I have with it are its front sights. I use a fobus holster and when I pull the gun out, the front sight wants to come out too. I dont know if I am doing something wrong when I draw or what. I thought I might try super glue but I shouldn't have to do that. If anyone has info on this problem please let me know.

Hi:

I'm just trying out a P22 for a possible purchase. So, as a recap for people considering buying this gun I should point out the following:

1-Be sure to get the mags with serial xxx xx xx a
2-Use quality ammo. CCI Stinger, Remington/Winchester Thunderbolt, CCI MiniMag (come on, in my country 100 rounds of CCI MiniMag cost me, more or less $6.50. I can't even dream of getting 500 rounds of .22 for less than $10 bucks).
3-It's better to consider it as a "fun" gun rather than a self-defense "stopper" weapon. Somewhere I read the smallest caliber for defense should be .40. Having talked to a police officer he told of people trying to blow their head with a 9mm only to have the bullet slide over the skull, and come out at some other point. Of course that there is the issue of weapon handling and accuracy and where to shoot, but I'm a regular civilian, starting to handle weapons roughly 2 months ago.
4-It has one of the better looks I've seen for a .22, as well as a nice body and sturdy feel.
5.Consider polishing the ramp, and in the post in spanish, he says he solved most of the feeding problems simply lubing the ammo with WD40 (a little bit).
6-IMPORTANT: The screws that hold together the sideplates of the gun tend to come loose not only by firing, but by simply working the slide with your hands. In some other website a guy recommended superglueing these screws, which I did, and after firing nearly 250 rounds, there was no sign they were comming off. You have to remove the grip to access one of the screws.
7-Clean the gun after 100-150 rounds fired.
8-I believe the problem with ammo not being fed is due to the slide not going all the way back after firing...Iwould say this is ammo related.

As you can see, I've done my homework in trying to inform myself as much as I can about this gun. I've reserched the internet for anything I can find about this gun and still, despite every complaint I've read, I'm considering to buy it. All in all, I believe this is an extremely nice weapon, and at some point anyone owning one will experience some sort of problem.

As of my experience, I've had my share of feeding problems: empty shell not being ejected and jamming, next shot won't load, and shots being jammed as they are fed into the chamber but anyway, I've found a fun gun to shoot witha great look and CHEAP ("gunwise" and "ammowise"). Being a newbie in this I was impressed I could get a less than 4.5" group of 8 shots, probably being fired in around 2 seconds at an aproximate distance of 20-22 feet.

I'm about to pay $200 for this gun (2nd hand) with only one mag, two sights, two backstraps and without the key for the trigger lock, and I think I'm getting enough for the 200 bucks. Where I live, it would cost me $400 new.

We should consider putting together a FAQ for this gun...hhhmmm I think I'll set my mind on it...

Good shooting everyone

WELL I GOT MY GUN BACK FROM S&W TODAY . ACCORDING TO THE PAPER WORK ALL THEY DID IS FIX THE SAFETY PROBLEM AND TEST FIRE THE GUN WITH HIGH VELOCITY AMMO . ILL TAKE IT OUT TONIGHT AND TEST IT FOR MY SELF . THEY DID NOT CHANGE THE MAGAZINES OR ALTER THEM . THEY REALLY DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO THE GUN OTHER THAN TIGHTEN UP THE SAFETY LEVER. NO POLISHING ANYWHERE....

I found a new P22 at a local gun show the Saturday after Christmas for $245 (short barrel). I live in California, and so I had to deal with the 10-day waiting period. Actually, due to the holiday weekend and everything, I ended up with more like a 13 day wait, and I picked it up on the 14th day, again a Saturday. I didn't have a chance to head to the range to try it out for about a week, so a friend of mine and I both partially disassembled it (just to see exactly how it functioned). Well when my friend reassembled it, he only tightened the barrel nut finger-tight. When we went down to the range, I right away started having feeding problems. My gun starts with L on its serial number, and the mags both end in A. I was first using Federal, then PMC and CCI. It was quite a chilly day at the range, and the CCI MiniMags warmed my hands nicely when fired, if only for a brief moment. Anyway, I was having a lot of feeding and extracting problems. About 3 times per mag, I would get a bullet that didn't feed up the ramp properly or into the barrel properly or something. I've heard from people that the P22 is picky about its ammo, so I tried some brass-plated Remington ammo (this is the stuff) and I got about one mis-feed in 2 mags or so, a very significant improvement. The problems were not completely gone, and it was still a bit of a mystery. The next day, I was working on trying to get to the bottom of the problem, and was cycling unspent CCI rounds through the action from the magazine, with about the same rate of 3 per mag not feeding properly. At one point I just happened to notice the loose barrel nut, and realised that it allowed the entire barrel to move back and forth as much as 0.100", which of course will understandably cause any of a variety of problems in any gun, especially feeding and extracting. After tightening the barrel nut with the included wrench (the manual chooses to call it a spanner), I performed the same test again, cycling 100 rounds (without firing) of the same CCI ammo I had had problems with at the range, and I had ZERO misfeeds this time, and once had a failed extraction. I have yet to fire it again, but I am quite confident I will have a better experience.

Noah:

Now that you have taken apart the gun, be warned about the screw that comes loose at the right hand side of it. Remove the the slide and check it, it's just above and to the back of the trigger lock. If this is the case, try superglueing the screw by applying less than a drop of superglue between the screw head and the sideplate (having removed any possible presence of lubricant). There is another screw that may come loose also but you have to remove the grip. It happened to me, and after doing this and firing aproximately 500-550 rounds there is no sign of it coming loose again, even after cleaning it with those nuclear waste solvents.

Hope everything else goes all right.

PS.: I read also that the barrel nut may come loose after firing some rounds, but hasn't happened to me though.

I'd sooner try some good loctite on those threads, but I have not yet checked that out. I put probably 150 rounds through that day at the range before I noticed (at home) that the barrel nut was loose. At the range I shot two flavors of Federal, one of PMC, and then CCI Singers and CCI MiniMags. All 5 of those types gave me about the same rate of mis-feeds, but clearly that's due to the barrel nut. Oddly enough, the Remington brass-jacketed gave me much fewer problems (still with the loose barrel nut). Go figure. Anyway, later at home I was trying to find the problem, and I was cycling ammo through (live CCI MiniMags, which I had problems with at the range, without firing) and still getting the same rate of misfeed. Somewhere in there I noticed the loose barrel nut. I retightened it by hand, and just worked the slide back and forth maybe 10 times with no ammo cycling, and checked the nut again. The slide action was enough to loosen it again. Retightened with the "spanner" included, and performed the same slide test, and the nut was still tight. Then performed the same test as earlier, feeding the CCI MiniMags through the action, and I had ZERO misfeeds out of 100 rounds. I work 55 hours a week, and commute another 20 hours a week, so I really only have Sunday afternoon after church to go to the range and try it out, and lately I've been plagued by unfavorable weather. I'm convinced I've got my feeding problems beat, but I'll see next time I shoot.

I had major jamming problems with my p22. I tried all kinds of different brands of ammo. Stingers worked, but were expensive. After much trial and error I have found that Peters High Velocity (on sale $12.90 for 500) perform impeccably. Not a jam or misfire in literally thousands of rounds were with some ammo I was getting jams and misfires with just about every clip.
Rich

" I can hit pop cans reliably at 25 yards while standing!"

Yep, same experience here. I took my new pistol and loaded my pocket from the 550-round value pack and took it out to get it zeroed. Previously I had put 50 rounds of some pretty high quality stuff in it(don't remember what kind) and it shot perfectly. Not quite so with the 550-round value pack, it didn't seem to shoot quite as perfect, a few times the first round would not chamber, and I think I know why, the ejector seems to have some burrs on it that really "slow" the slide down when it is returning to chamber a new round. I can "feel" a lot of resistance in this part of the stroke, and I can feel quite a few burrs on it. I am filing it down a little to make it "smooth" and to see if that helps.

Overall I am happy, like the guy above said, I can hit soda cans at 25 yards without much trouble. This is NOT a double action pistol, it is DA/SA, double action the first shot IF you choose to decock it, but single action otherwise. To make a .22 weapon that doesn't have any problems jamming is pretty idealistic, given the limitations of the round, but as well as the higher velocity stuff works, with a little polishing I should get the same performance with lower velocity stuff.

i purchased a p22 and have tried to run the 10 dollar walmart 550 round box ammo through it, it does go. the cci stingers, and cci verlocisers(spelling) ran through it fine, no problems, no hang ups, and thats running 500 rounds of stingers at one time. far as accuracy goes, i found the cci to be better then everything else i put through it. now cci is all i buy for ammo. and the movie up there is good, i never heard a silenced anything. im looking into purchasing a walther silencer. -two thumbs up on the pistol-

Just Got a used P22 for $212 out the dooor. I will let you know how my testing goes. I am a law enforcement officer. I carry a Glock 40 cal. for my duty weapon. I also have a Sig Sauer 40 cal. I fired a Beretta 9 mm in the Army. Guess what? They all have stove piped. They all have jambed, and miss fired. Jams usually magazine problems or improper grip. Stove pipes improper grip or weapon alignment with your hand. Slide guns work on recoil. Miss fires, usually bad ammo. There is always a few bad rounds. Happy shooting and I hope I did not get a lemon. I will let you know. Thanks for all the info on the P22.

What do you use to clean an aluminum silencer ?

P22 serial # starts w/N. mag end with an A. Shot close to 2000 rounds +/- some mini mags, velocitor stuff. Yes, I have experienced some misfires and a couple of jams. Solutions - check the barrel nut periodically (after 150-200 rounds) or if starting to misfire. Place a drop of oil on slide rails also periodically. Accuracy --> you bet! I like the feel of the gun and use for practice for combat shooting. Shoot at 7 yards, paper plate is not a problem and the group, depending on how fast you shoot and how many rounds you send down range can be less than 2-3 inches consistently. I'll keep mine...oh by the way, DOJ for California has taken the P22 off the list for guns to purchase....Seems there's the thought that the threaded barrel can put the weapon in the assault weapon class and DOJ missed it. Probably pending some form of registration for those already owning (but that's just a guess)

This is a great gun. Thanks to everyone for all the info, which helped me decide to get this gun. I've put in about 1500 rounds on it so far and things have really smoothed out. Like most other people I have been very successful with some ammo and not with others. What works well for me is federal and remington high velocity. I've had problems with other brands, but with these two I get almost perfect reliablity. Oh and I got mine for 219 new in wisconsin. You can put me in the happy customer list.

I get my P22 at gunshow few months. here is wrost one you never see before. I will NOT FIRE right out the box as brand new. send back to walther and just got it back yesterday. not sure I will buying other walther for few years.

I have found the p-22 works best with CCI ammo its a really neat gut to plink around with i am looking for a suppresor for it i just have to fin one .

Great Gun. Wife loved it. Accurate. Fired about 500 rounds. Remington brass, and CCI. Worked great had a fun day with the wife. One misfead. What gun doesn't?

Yep dang California again. Purchased a P22 little over two weeks ago at show. Wouldnt you know they took it off the list that next week during my 10 day cool-off. The FFL informed me that they could wait it out a couple weeks and let me know if it was going to get put back on the list. Anyone know about how that is going? I just love this state lol. Thanks for all the info by the way this was a great source of help to me in my decision. I only hope I can put it to good use.

I have a P22 and I love it so far. I have only put about 200 rounds through it but it did like to jam up with the CCI Stingers. It seemed to like the federals the best. I am looking to get a laser for it, for hunting purposes. So far the only one I have been able too find has the flashlight attachment also, which I dont realy need. Does anyone have just the laser one or know where I can get one.

Hi Folks,

Just tried my new 5" P22 at the range for the first time, 25 yards. Bought it last weekend. I was EXTREMELY impressed by this gun! I put a variety of Hi Vel 22 LR thru it including Winchester HP and solid 40gr, Rem Golden Bullet HP, CCI Blazer and spme Federals. A total of about 600+ rounds in one sitting! I had ZERO problems with feeding, only problem was that 1 Rem round was a dud - it was wacked nicely on the rim but didn't fire. It is also an extremely accurate little piece, got the best groups at 25 yds with WW stuff but all shot well - widest group was with Federals. The Federals and Blazers were not copper-colored bullets, just plain lead. Popping soup cans was simple, sights are very good. The only thing I found was that after the session the barrel nut had worked loose a bit - I disassembled the gun and tightened it with the wrench. I was surprised that even though it had worked loose, there were NO feeding problems! Probably have to crank down on the nut or just check it after every few hundred rounds or so. Could put a dab of blue or green loktite on it I suppose.

Anyway this is a VERY fine pistol with marvelous accuracy and quality. I highly recommend it. Its probably also a good idea to get some spare parts, worm screws, sight blades, etc.

I just purchased a P22T (after recieving all of the regulatory grease required by the rediculous Canadian firearms laws) and have tried a couple of different types of ammo. I got some discount CCI that was verrry waxy and had some feeding problems to start, and 2 duds (guys with Ruger MkII's having the same dud ratio with this batch of ammo). I ended up having to remove the wax by hand and then charge the magazine. No more feed problems. Waste of time with the wax, so I got some Winchester Super X hollow points from Walmart. 200 rounds, no feed problems, no eject problems. I tried some midpriced Federal ammo and not a problem. The P22 is accurate (2.5" groups @ 20 metres) until the barrel nut comes loose. Strange setup with that barrel nut and all...I will try the loktite solution to help remedy the problem.
I am not sure about the pistols available in the US (made by S&W I suspect) but mine is made in Germany and, the loose barrel nut notwithstanding, I am very happy with my P22. I think the key to the feed problems is using decent grade ammo. The box of 500 Win. SuperX cost me $13.00 Canadian (I think it is nearly free if you convert it to US dollars!) and it works very well. Overall, I am very pleased with this little pistol.

I have just recently bought my p22 nickle for 250 shipped. for the price, i think this is a great gun. for those who say a .22 cant be a good defensive weapon. that is bs, i have been told by many that a 22 will most likely kill more than a 9mm because of the way the bullet enters the body.no matter how small the caliber, a gun will always be intimidating. I'll let you guys know how I like when i start shooting it at the range.best looking .22 imo.

Keep in mind that the CCI stinger is a fewer grain bullet than the regular high velocity CCI mini mag- this means the the casing is actually going to be quite a bit longer than the typical .22lr casing so a small pistol like the P22 will naturally have problems ejecting the larger cartridge. I had this problem with my Ruger 10-22 rifle. Just my .02.

-Future P22 owner doing his research

Where could i get a silencer for this gun? please e-mail me a website

My e-mail is hi_own2@yahoo.com

Well I just bought my 5" p22 and got it the same day here in Colorado. Actually only like an hour or so. I thought there was still a 72 hour waiting period here but I guess that changed. The only ammo available at the time was Winchester Super X h/p so I went ahead and bought 500 rds. I didn't have much time or light left by the time I got to test it so I just loaded up the two clips that came with once. I couldn't even really see a target to aim at so I just cycled it though as fast as I could.

First clip all ten fired flawlessly. Second clip, flawless. All firing as fast as I could pull the trigger. It's got my vote!

One problem though: the foremost screw in the stabilizer of the extension was stripped from the factory. I will have to go get it drilled out, since I don't want to loose the gun for more than a few days. Only $25. I also highly recommend going and buying a 3mm hex key- the one that came with mine still has some free play in the good screw so I worry about that. The 3mm fits perfectly.

I just got my P-22 not long ago and of course, just like any 22 semi-auto, it is ammo sensitive.
It worked pretty well with some CCI and Federal solids. I tried the Remington Subsonic hollow points and could not get off 2 or 3 shots without a malfunction. Of course to be sub-sonic they are equally underpowered which probably explains it.
The CCI Stingers worked flawlessly. I understand that with some P-22's there was a problem with the hammer spring being too heavy. Contact Walther or Smith and you can at least check to see if this is a problem. I think if more people griped and sent guns back to the manufacturer when they don't perform maybe guns coming out of the factory would improve.

I bought one of these guns because years ago I owned a Beretta 70S in .22 that I foolishly traded away. Now I have never been able to locate one at any of the million gun shows I have attended over the years. The P-22 reminds me much of the 70S and in many ways is better, except perhaps in the reliabllity dept.

The reason I bring up the 70S is this: A lot of people put the .22 down as a defense round. Check your figures and you will see that probably more people have been killed by the .22 than many other rounds combined (in peace time that is).
I don't want to sound too James Bondish but it is a fact that the Israeli Mossad used the Beretta 70S, in .22, quite often for assassination. Of course they usually used multiple assassins and went strictly for head shots as they were trained to do. The advantage to the .22 was that it was fairly quiet in use, small and very concealable. Look it up yourself on the Internet about the Beretta 70S and it's role in assassination. The .22 Ruger was often used in Vietnam for the same type of work.

I am not saying that if I had my choice of defense handgun, that it would be the P-22. As a matter of fact it would not even be a semi-auto.
I prefer my S&W 5 shot Model 696 in .44 Special.
It has a 3" Magnaported barrel and Herret's custom Detective grips custom fitted to my hand.
With Silvertips or the CCI Gold Dots I feel very well protected but sometimes if I worry about overpenetration thru walls, etc, I break out the P-22. With the magazine half loaded with Stinger hollowpoints and CCI solids I may not be defended as well as I could be. But I sure would not want to be on the receiving end.

I think it is a great little contribution and I hope lots of custom accessories are produced to fit the accessory mounting rail on the frame. I think some inexpensive night sights would be neat too. A laser that replaces the guide rod would be cool but would cost more than the gun.

The first thing I thought about the gun when I saw it was "suppressor". It is perfect for that if
you can afford the license.

Anyway, I got lucky and got my P-22 for $230. The next gun show I did not see one for under $260.

It's all just luck and timing!

PS: A little judicious polishing on the hammer and slide contact points with a stone and/or fine
emory cloth and a thorough cleaning will help with the ejection problems. Then just shoot it a lot and I will bet that unless you got a lemon, all of your functionality problems will disappper.
At least most of them.

It could use a trigger job but the gun is a bit new to know how to do a proper job as yet. I tore
mine completely down and be careful. It is not for the faint of heart. I did a bit of judicious stoning but without much improvement. This type of gun is difficult to improve the trigger pull on but considering it is not a target gun, that does not bother me much. I can live with it just the way it is.

Greg Phillips

Well after about a hundred rounds or so I have only had one mis feed, but still no jams or the like. I am quite impressed with this gun since all the P22's I've fired (3 diff. ones) none have had any of these horror story problems that seem to be somewhat common. My barrel nut, hoever, did loosen up after that many rounds and I was wondering: has anybody fully resolved the problem using locktite (not super glue- I don't want that in my gun)? Same with the nut in the grip- any tips? Thanks!

BTW- my P22s serial starts with 'N'xxxxx and clips both end in 'A'. They seem to be pretty hassle free.

I recently purchased a Walther P22 and although I am a seasoned shooter this is my first handgun. This week I put over 1000 rounds through it of varying brands all were copper coated and high velocity. My Walther produced similar groups and fed every brand of ammunition I put in it. I took the time to properly clean and lube my pistol after shooting and I have to say that its is one of the most accurate and reliable firarms I have ever come across.

Well I decided to call Walther today and order up two more stabilizer screws so I can just drop them in once I get the stripped one drilled out. They were very helpful and didn't ask any unnecessary questions- he just got my first name and address and I will have the parts in 3-5 days, no charge whatsoever. They also have next day available, if you are in a hurry and willing to pay lots of shipping- it would have been about $18 just to ship two screws. Good customer service rating in my book, though.

I have had my p22 since they first came out i've put about ten thousand rounds threw it and had a hand full of jams if you keep them clean and oiled thair a grate compact self defence wepion and fun to shoot.I have no regrets about my perches all the sh** talking about this gun is bull sh** if you ask me

I have had my p22 since they first came out i've put about ten thousand rounds threw it and had a hand full of jams if you keep them clean and oiled thair a grate compact self defence wepion and fun to shoot.I have no regrets about my perches all the sh** talking about this gun is bull sh** if you ask me

I've put at least a 1000 plus rounds threw my P-22 with a problem. Yes theaguila SSS 60gr. works great threw mine.

That is I had no problems with my P-22.

I put the Five inch barrel on my P22 and I had no problem hitting point of aim out to fifty yards with the factory sites. It ate every brand I put in it. Fed,Win,Aguila SSS, and Rem. Now out passed fifty I had to concentrate a little more. I think the trigger is just fine on the one I have. Twenty yard rapid fire inside a six inch circle.

Wow! I sure am glad I didn't see this site before I purchased my P22. All the negative comments would have talked me out of it. And that would have been a real shame, because I'm having a tremendous amount of fun with it. I don't know if I just got lucky or something, but mine works perfectly. I thought it was fussy about which brands of ammo I use, but it turns out that it's really only fussy about being cleaned regularly. If you're having problems try giving it a good clean and lube, and check to make sure the screws that have been referenced in several of the preceeding messages are tight. I've had zero problems with CCI Stingers, Remington Targets, Subsonics, Thunderbolts, and Golden Bullets, provided the pistol is clean and lubed. Also, keep in mind that the instructions call for you to tap the magazine so that the bullets are resting all the way to the back before inserting the magazine. My experience with this gun has been 100% positive.

Just to be clear, I love the P-22 and also agree it would make for a great self defense weapon, should it be needed, and used properly. If it hadn't been for the factory stripping that screw head, it would have been a perfect gun. Supremely accurate, even to 50-60 yards and that was only the second time I really got to sit down and practice with it.

Please help! Does anyone know what the thread
specifications are on the end of the barrel?
Are they Metric or American? How many threads
per inch. I have a cheap thread gauge but the
threads are so fine, it was difficult to be certain. I went to a hardware story and tried every type and size bolt to see if it would thread
into the barrel nut but could not find one to fit
it!
Greg Phillips

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I am writing to inform people that they should absolutely not buy this gun. I bought it because I liked the size and weight of the pistol. However the pistol simply does not work. I had to send the first pistol back to the company and they could not fix it. It had to be destroyed at the factory. The company sent me a replacement which also fails to function properly. I have had the follwing problems.

1) All magazines fail to feed rounds on both guns.

2) The pin located in the safety slides out on both guns.

3) Empty shells were constantly jammed between slide and barrel on both guns.

4) The barrel bushing came unscrewed on the first pistol. I "fixed" the problem by tightening the bushing so tight the wrench bent and I could not unscrew it without damaging the bushing.

5) One magazine had to be forced into the gun and would not come out when released on the first pistol.

6) Rounds were constantly caught on the barrel ramp on the first pistol.

7) The magazines would fall out of the gun while shooting, this was the replacement pistol.

In conclusion the P22 pistol is a complete and utter failure. Do not under any circumstances buy this gun. It simply does not function. I will never recommend any of Walther or Smith and Wesson automatic pistols to anyone and they have lost a costumer for life. The only thing I can say in Smith and Wesson's defense is that both of these pistols were made in Germany and started with L for a serial number. And when the gun did shoot it did shoot accurately. Do not buy any pistol with L for the first letter. One was a grey frame the other was a black. I am surprised Smith and Wesson would put thier name on such a pathetic and poorly manufactured and designed product, after all they do make good revolvers. I am a mechanical engineer and I cannot imagine how the designers got away with this one. It was obviously designed solely in a computer with little thought to the real world. Some people trust thier lives on thier gun and this model simply does not work. This pistol is completely unreliable and untrust worthy. You would be better off throwing it at a your target than attempting to fire it. I could design a better pistol than this piece of junk. I have had nothing but problems. Do not under any circumstances buy this pistol !!!! :(

This final comment is something that bothers me about this pistol. Why am I buying a German made pistol when I live in Massachusetts and I could literally drive to the Smith and Wesson factory? Why is this pistol not made in the USA? I guess it is just another instance of "outsourcing" US jobs. I am sorry to have such a negative opinion of the P22. I tried to enjoy it for target shooting but it failed twice and in my opinion thats twice to many. :(

AAC Pilot silencer is best for the P22.Silenced,short barreled P22,when shot dry has an average sound signature of 119dB with supersonic ammo,115dB when shot dry with subsonic.It's only 25 bucks more than the Gemtech Outback,and has reduces sound 8 dB's more than the Outback,the AAC Pilot has lifetime warranty and stainless steel rear mount.No,joking,this package is awesome.You can go to Advanced-armament.com to see an article on the P22/AAC Pilot silencer.They're even putting ads with this set-up in guns mags now.

Also,AAC sells P22 threaded barrel bushings for 40 bucks...20 bucks cheaper than Gem-tech.And,I forgot to tell you guys the new dB reduction of the Pilot...41dB! And,if you'll remember,the intergrally suppressed rugers and brownings have 43dB reduction...that's not much difference!41dB...that makes Gemtech's Outback seem awful crappy with it's 33dB reduction.I know 9mm silencers that have -33dB!

I bought a P22 (5") and took it to the range immediately. I put 700 rounds through it. The dealer warned me that it takes about 50 to 100 cci stinger to break it in. And indeed. after having 50 stingers and several jams the damn thing just works like a charm! I used CCI Minimag and the remington golden bullet after the CCI stingers. After about 400 rounds the often mentioned pin under the safety lever came out and the worm screw on the front stabilizer came out. I tightened all screws and pushed all pins back, put some loctite on the pins and was happy ever after....
The gun is VERY accurate (I shot competition in Germany... I know what I'm talking about).
Yes, I am a little disapointed in the initial quality of the gun, but after the mentioned tightening and securing of screws and pins it is a very pleasant shooting gun. I will give it to my wife as a home defense gun. Like mentioned by others before: A .22 can as well be a potent weapon if you are trained to deliver an aimed head shot under stress. If you use a hot hollow point .22 at the right spot the damage will be lethal. It just needs training... Together with a noise supressor a perfect match at close range and close quarters (like in a home defense situation).
Oh, and by the way... if you are not able to deliver an accurate shot under a high pressure, high stress situation the best high powered handgun is useless for self defense. On the contrary. You will do more collateral damage and bring so called "innocent bystanders" in a dangerous situation with a big bore gun you are not able to control. And just as a little detail: think of the noise of a .45 fired in a 10' by 8' bedroom. If you are not wearing hearing protection (and I guess you won't be able in a home defense situation) you will probably bleed out of your ears and have popped eardrums. Think about it! Hoping that none of us will ever be in need of home defense, I will close this little article with the words going to "J": why is a walther p22 made in Germany, hmmm let's see... oh, it's a german company. If you don't like german products don't buy them!
I personally don't give a damn where stuff is made. If it's well made and it deserves my hard earned money I'll buy it!

The P22 is my first gun, had it now almost 1 year. It is an "L" series with "A" mags. I have fired about 750 rounds and it has performed very well. I had one case stay in the chamber and had to pull in out manually. This last week I did experience the symptoms of it "not firing" but, after reading some of the entries here, I quickly discovered it is the pin at the safety coming out. I have pushed it back in and the gun works flawlessly (per usual). I will try the locktight bacause it does loosen as you shoot. I have not had a problem with the gun's operation while using "high velocity" cartridges. Did try CCI Blazers "standard velocity" and there were problems (caused by not enough power to cycle gun properly). The only other comment I have for right now is that for the money, this gun seems to deliver what you expect. Maybe a small problem with the safety pin loosening but, it is accurate and works very well with proper amount of charge. I say, buy it!

Just purchased a P22. The gun feels good and I really like the sights. No misfeeds yet. HOWEVER this is the worst gun as far as reassembly that I have ever owned. Is there a secret to putting the slide and SPRING back together on the 3 inch model??

I had trouble with that my first few times. No secrets that I have found yet, maybe I'm just getting better at it. Make sure that the spring is seated properly on the slide before you get the rod through there or else you just have to start over. There is something in the manual but, I can't make sense of it (like a rod or something?).
Well, I wanted to come back here and make an update to my post about the roll pin near the safety. I called S & W today and the rep. said that I shouldn't use locktight but, I could either send them the slide to be fixed or I could do the fix. He said, "flip the slide over exposing the pin from underneath then take a center punch and hit it to make a dimple." He said that will stop the pin from walkng out and that is how they handle it if you sent it to them. He said that the pin can still come out if the need arises later down the line.
Hope this suggestion works. I am going to try it. I'll try to post another message once I do it and see if it works. If anyone else gives this a try, please let us know the results.

Cheers!

Hey all,
I'm new to this forum, but not new to Walther pistols (PP,PPK,PPK/s & P22). The newer "N" serial # P22 slides already have the pin dimpled from the factory. Just turn the slide over and view the exposed portion where you can see a bit of the pin. Both my slides (I have two P22's) have the pin already done in this manner. I guess as concerns come in on the P22, S&W modifies as the new ones are produced.

Almost forgot,
The receiver screws you are claiming that are backing out (one can be seen by field stripping and the other that is hidden by the grip frame) are in fact "lock-tightened" now by the factory. I removed mine from both my "N" P22's and lock-tite was used. I guess another issuue S&W addressed from concerns. It seems they took care of all the bugs from earlier series (A-mags,safety pin,receiver screws). Both my "N"'s are flawless with no matter what hi-vel I put in them. Now to try sub-sonics. I wonder if Wolff Gun Spring will produce a lighter reciol spring for better cycling of the lower velocity ammo?

P22 reassembly,
I called WaltherAmerica and they told me to use the small rod included in the accesories kit to compress the mainspring prior to guiding the slide back on. There is a picture of it in the manual but it is located in the section dealing with changing barrels. That didn't work worth a damn either. So I took it to the dealer and asked one of the experts to reassemble it for me so I could learn from him. He just rolled his eyes! Claimed he worked for over 20 minutes and could not reassemble. The range officer who cleans all of the rental guns each day came over and put it together in about 2 minutes. He claims practice makes it easier each time. He did not use the accessory rod. He thought it was a stupid design. I have to agree. Walther (S&W) must have had a monkey for an engineer on this gun. I can strip and reassemble any of my Browning High Powers with my eyes closed.

Well I finally got mine back from Smith and Wesson, hard to believe it takes that long to get one screw out...About the pin in the safety- my p22 has a N serial number and the pin still moves around in there enough to get in the way of the safety switch when trying to move it into the fire position. If I need to make another dimple, where on the pin does it need to be to keep it from sliding around? I hope this doesn't become a recurring problem with my gun as it has yet to let me down on the range.

Just an update for the safety roll pin. I checked mine and it did have a small dimple on the exposed portion. However, they seemed to have either punched it to where the pin still sticks out a bit or it is still moving around some in there. It did not come out but it got in the way of the safety switch making it hard to move into the fire position with one finger. The dimple seems to be in a pretty useless place on the pin, meaning I don't think it could stop it from moving around since it's not near anything else. I will try another small one myself but I wonder how I can get the pin back in the other direction a bit. Do I just tap it in with something? What would I use? I tried just pressing it with another pin by hand. It only needs to move about 1/16". Thanks.

PS- I don't recommend using Winchester Xpert ammo. I had literally chunks of deposits coming out of my barrel when cleaning after about 200 rounds.

The pin needs to be tapped with a hammer (small one if you have it) and a flat punch approx a bit smaller in dia than the pin is. Get it centered and here is what I plan on doing (gunsmith tip of the day): I have taken a sharp center punch and "peened" the hole opening of the slide at its edge so there is a tiny burr that flowed into the pin hole. This is done on both sides. That minute burr will keep the pin from backing out in either direction. If the pin needs to be removed for parts replacement, the burr will flatten-out when the pin is tapped rather hard with a hammer & punch. The force of just firing will not disturb the pin at all.
Catch my drift?

Gotcha! The burr idea is a good one and was suggested to me at my favorite local gunshop. Their idea actually had to do with flaring the pin out but the same effect would be had. Thanks for the input.

Found a little trick for reassembly of the slide onto the frame. I noticed the main spring would bend to one side or another if the guide pin was tilted, even just a little bit. This makes it almost impossible to line the pin up with the hole on the slide. I found that pointing the barrel straight up in the air let the pin and spring rest in it's hole at the right angle. While keeping it pointed up, I pull the slide down around the barrel and the guide rod will usually slip right through, as long as the spring doesn't pop out to the side. I don't know if it's really a trick but it seems to be the easiest way for me to reassemble.

I have recently bought a p22 with a 5" barrel. I have shot it 3 different times. 200 rounds the 1st time, 50 rounds the 2nd and I was about 30 rounds into the 3rd time and I noticed that the washer at the end of the barrel with holds the front sight was cocked slightly one way. After inspection I noticed that the washer was tight and it was the barrel itself that was starting to twist back and forth. This is the first handgun that I have owned. I think that the lock for the barrel may have come lose. Is this common? And is it as easy as the directions state to change the barrel? I am a bit uncomfortable with taking this apart, having never done this before. If anybody can help, that sure would be great. Outside of this problem, the p22 has been a great handgun to shoot.

If you read through the forum some more you'll see that nearly all of us had that problem "out of the box". Loctite is supposed to work great and is in fact what they do at the factory before selling them now. The front stabilizer piece comes off the barrell entirely and the washer you speak of, actually the barrel nut, is under it and is what holds the barrel in place. This is what comes loose but I've never had problems after tightening it myself when cleaning the gun. Changing the barrell is cake- the whole thing comes out for easy cleaning- reassembly can be the tricky part.

The barrel nut (washer you speak of) and barrel threads should be de-greased with "GunScrubber" or rubbing alcohol to remove all oils & grease. Then just put a drop of blue Lock-Tite on the barrel threads and reassemble with wrench. That will hold the nut and make removal easier to do since you ONLY use one drop. Any more will make removal more difficult.
Only ONE drop!

Thanks to Jahovah and Walt Fan for their insight. When I took the stabilizer off, you could turn the barrel nut with your fingers. The process only took about 5 minutes. I am now looking forward to shooting it again. Thanks again and I will be checking back often to read about other peoples experiences and will post some of my own. One last thing, I also called the WaltherAmerica 800 number and spoke with a guy by the name of Larry and he was a great help. It is always a pleasure to deal with people who are willing to help.

Hi, read all this opinions before deciding to buy a P22. I found very negative reviews and some positive ones. Even though, I decided to buy one, a 3.4" 'shortie' version. I'm now waiting for the gun because they were out of stock in my local Gun Shop, maybe next week. The guy in the gun shop told me "Don't buy that gun! I sell them like hot cookies, everybody wants one, but I tell you, those guns are no good! They only accept Hi Vel ammo and after 10000 rounds they are coming apart" he didn't mention any malfunctions and jams... What I think about this? Well I have to say that I own a CZ 75 Kadet (.22 conversion to the CZ 75) with abou 1000 rounds fired. It's one of the best guns I ever had, quite affordable for a well made, rugged, extremely accurate gun (I can empty a magazine in a fist sized area as fast as I can pull the trigger 15 yards away) and guess what...with this gun it is normal to experience some jams and that generaly happens when I fail to clean it between a fair ammount of shooting or when I use cheap bulk pack ammo. Lets face it, a 22 is a dirty round, designed to be used in revolvers, and having a large spectrum of velocity ratings these days, it is very hard for manufacturers to tune the automatic cycle to digest all this ammo. Sometimes I get jams in a Marlin bolt action that is not so ammo sensitive as an autoloader, so even if my P22 is going to jam sometimes, that's ok with me, because I know a 22 is never going to be as reliable as a centerfire.

I consider the P22 as an All-Around fun gun, it's not a target gun (even the 5"), it's not a defensive gun, but it seems to have everything to be a great gun to practice combat/defensive shooting... oh well, at least you can train you jam clearing techniques in combat/defensive shooting eh eh!

I'll post my experiences when I finally get it, probably next week.

JB

HI ALL... Yes I too own a Walther P22 "the combo set"... And like most of you I had trouble with Cheap Ammo, but even if you use CCI Mini Mags (which I do)its still a Cheap gun to shoot... However... I need some help, I have owned my gun for 1 week now and put approx. 600 rounds through it, the problem I have is the Clips keep falling out, Walther's said they never heard of that problem? go figure... Has this happened to anyone else? Can anybody out there point me in the right direction... Thanks

I guess it would help if I told you that the two clips I have, one ends in "44-a" the other ends in "36-a"... The pistol starts with the letter "L"... Thanks...

Hello every one, I am a first time hand gun owner and after two years of deliberation I have just purchased a Walther p22 with the 3.4" and I have only shot it two diferent times. My question is why will the CCI CB not eject? The brass looks just like the CCI Mini Mags. Also, I have fired Remington's Golden Bullet (high velocity hollow point) And standard run of the mill round nose lead points. Is it true that "jacketed" rouns are cleaner and better for your gun? Oh, FYI, I do perfer the CCI Mini Mags.

Bought a P-22 (two barrel set) recently for my son. He loves the "James Bond" look, and the thing has shot just excellent, several hundred rounds of Remington gold bullets (gun not cleaned but CLP on the slide) and I do not think the gun has jammed or misfired once. Not my idea of a defense weapon, but for shooting fun we are satisfied and would recommend.

i had a question, did anyone from california heard that the p22 has been banned and is now on the AR15 list? i went to a shop today to see if i can buy one and that's what the salesman told me..
i'm kinda disapointed..

I think I have figured out the trick to reassembly. Take the small Guide rod from the accesories and slide it through the front spring rod opening on the slide, one side slides through easily the other is a little to tight on mine. Slide in the easier side and lower slide,and guide rod, onto the mainspring and spring rod to form a continuose rod all the way through the front of the slide. Just pull the slide back and the spring rod should smoothly ride through the front of the slide, just be prepared to catch the small guide rod as it will shoot out the front and fall. I thought this was the worst design ever till I figured this out thanks to Joe's post, now the spring never needs seating and the springrod is kept under control.

Just one more thing, the guide rod is not compressing the spring it just acts as a pre-threaded guide through the opening in the slide. Just figured I'd say that in case there was any confusion. Good Luck.

i traded my buckmark 4 one with the stabalizer and i love the feel of it but after about a week the fireing pin wouldnt strike

Tightened the barrel nut and the firearm worked great. Fired 300 + rounds through it last weekend. I agree, not a very good target or personal protection gun. A very good fun gun though. I let my 14 year old shoot it up north. Will be shooting again this weekend. I will post any problems we may encounter.

i sent mine back but i should get it back sometime this week so ill probably run a few rounds through it to test it out and just for fun

Got my P22 moments ago (in the previous post I was waiting for it, remember?) just had time to take a good look, my serial starts with a G and both magazines have an A in the end. First impression is good, but in some details it's definitely inferior in construction and design to that of the CZ Kadet. Grip and mag release is not very nice, I mean it works, but is not natural, I feel the gun is too small for my hands, but hey I'm 6'3" I was expecting that. Also the CG (center of gravity) is high, seems all the weigth is in the slide. At this point all I can say is the P22 is everything I was expecting it to be, I'm not saying it is good or bad, It is just what I expected.

Can't wait to test fire it, I'll post the results, maybe next week...

J.Basto

Between Saturday and Sunday my son and I fired 300+ rounds again. So far so good.

I recently purchased the p22 in military green and with the extended barrel with stabilizer. All bolts up front and barrel nut loosened after 100 rounds. Re-tighten and continued. Very accurate considering. The gun never had a hiccup since and I have fed it all types of ammo thru it from cheap to expensive. "N" numbered frame and "A" numbered magazine. I shoot bullseye competition as a expert and I definitely can keep all shots in the black dispite the extremely heavy trigger. I ordered a new threaded barrel nut and silencer from taticalinc.com should be very interesting to say the least. I would recommend this gun purely for tatical practice, backyard hunting, & play.

Hank (and everyone else),

Forgive my ignorance if the answer should be obvious (I'm pretty new to handguns) but at what range are you talking about? I'm certainly not a great shot, but I would like to know what the P22 is capable of if I should ever become one! Of course, I'm shooting the short barrel version, but I'd welcome any comments by experienced shooters on the range I should expect to keep all shots in the black. And how many in a row is "all shots"?

I had to tighten up some screws and the safety on mine to eliminate frequent misfires, but after that, the gun has been 100% reliable for several thousand rounds of various brands of ammo.

Also, I'm amazed at how many comments there are on this gun! If there are any readers out there who haven't seen it, you might want to check out the Walther forum at rimfirecentral.com for lots of information on this great little gun.

Roger,

Like you I am a new owner to handguns, p22 being my first. I have keep all shots (full 10 round clip) in the black from 10, 15, an as of Monday 20 yards away. The short barrel makes the task a chalange but practice, maintance, and staying with "good" shooting habits can do wonders. Good and safe shooting.

P.S.: I had to use a bench rest for the 20 yard shots but no rest used for 10 & 15 yards.

Roger,

Like you I am a new owner to handguns, p22 being my first. I have keep all shots (full 10 round clip) in the black from 10, 15, an as of Monday 20 yards away. The short barrel makes the task a chalange but practice, maintance, and staying with "good" shooting habits can do wonders. Good and safe shooting.

P.S.: I had to use a bench rest for the 20 yard shots but no rest used for 10 & 15 yards.

I ordered my P22, but she did not arrive yet.
I read all the information I could get about this gun and I found some interesting comments about this gun in "Glock talk" (Riemfire club).
Some people say that the spring of the hammer is far toostrong and is responsible for the misfireing.
They left the hammer coked when they put it away
for 2 weeks and had no problem anymore.
This would explain that the problem goes away
ones the gun has been "broken in"

Thanks for the useful tip Kurt! Will try that one too.

BTW- I found a very easy, very effective way to fix the roll pin by the safety. I just crimped one end of it slightly with some channel locks and voila! No more movement whatsoever! Didn't even have to tap it all the way out. I thought about doing the other end but realized it would be impossible to get it the pin back in if fully removed.

hi

i bought my p22 back onapril 17th at a gun show for 256.00 after tax and yes i did have problems but it was from the ammo i was using though. i bought a brick of the aguila super extra, and it mainly caused the slide to not close completely and not fire rounds due to the fact that the have a heavy wax coating on thembut i still forced a good 410 rounds through that same day. I cleaned it that night and the next time i went shooting with it i used the remington bulk stuff along with the thunderbolts my friend brought along with the brick of cci velocitors i paid $41.63 for and had ZERO problems. barrel nut does come loose but i dont care cuz i plan on buying the silencer adapter and the 5inch barrel for it (and hopefully the nickel slide too). and for those of you who havent figured it out the trick to getting the slide back on is with the new p22's like mine they come with a small plastic bar that slides into the hole below the barrel only one end of it will fit though cuz its tapered off and you cannot tell with the naked eye and that keeps the spring from moving and bending on you as you put the slide back on. you also have to make sure you pull the slide all the way back and then push down so that it slides on right as you slowly let it move forward. no for those of you that dont know walther has a reputation of making some of the best but pricey gus that dont like cheap ammo for the guns they normally make arent cheap take the p5 for instance, so in other words dont use cheap ammo in them check to make sure that they arent covered in wax, etc.

the only gripe i have with this gun and walther is that they dont have any cheaper add-ons for this gun, the only people that make a holster for it is fobus (and i really want a tactical leg holster for the competions we have at the shoots i go to due to my long a** arms, and when i called them they couldnt even tell me what kind of accesory rail it had i just got an email back from them saying that the xml mini light for the springfield xd9 and the insight m3 tac light would fit on it which im about too look into even though the people from insight said it would not fit). and for those of you that want one or plan on buying one clean it first and only use clean high velocity ammo in it personally cci velocitors (17/20 for both clips 25 yards out after adjusting rear sight to the left a little shooting at metal plates) are my pick for home defense and just plinking around use the remmingtons.

serial# L######
model# P 22
Barrel: 3.4
rounds so far 820

hi there all,

i've had my p22 for about a year and a half now, shot about 2500 rounds through it, with only about 15-20 ftf, i find that the aguila sss 60 grain 22lr to be the best for reliable shooting at the range, and also quik shok prefagmented 22lr. for a carry weapon the p22 is great since you can keep it just about anywhere, is very light, and as a sa/da can be carried cocked and locked.

I just got my p22 on 5/3[compo,at a Hartford Ct gun show] and took it to the range last night. The serial number is in the 45000 range and the gun was flawless all night. I ran about 300 rounds through it,all were the cheap Walmart stuff. So far so good, they may have the problems sorted out but time will tell.

I just bought the P22 limited edition for $359 + tax brand new. Took it out today and shot 500-600 rounds through it with no real problem. About 9 or so that wouldnt' fire on the first pull of trigger but after pulling trigger again or repositioning the bullet they would go off...was shooting winchester 55grain round nose bulk ammo....I would say this gun isn't really for target shooting and that the baretta Neos works better for that. But just for plinking and shooting around i would say it is good. It is small and compact and u can put it almost anywhere....once i get my TAC67 silencer for it...no one will know im even firing it.. but a GREAT overall gun to purchase.

My friend just gave me his walther p22. I fired 300 rounds of remington cyclone without a jam or missfire. The gun came with a SD22 silencer without a manual. Could anyone help me or give some tips on how to use it? amount of water to place? how to clean it? i tried it with aguilla sss but noise reduction was minimal, is the silencer defective or am i using the wrong ammo?

^^^^
Sounds pretty sketchy to me...he just gave it to you?? Did you ask him anything like 'why'??

I don't think I would just take a silenced weapon from somebody if they wanted to just 'give' it to me without knowing it's history EXACTLY.

Don't mean to scare you or anything but if someone is trying to get rid of a gun AND a silencer without selling it legally, chances are there's a reason they're doing it. catch my drift?

This is very illegal. You can not just give someone a silencer. You need to get ahold of a Class III dealer and see what needs to be done on your part. Good Luck.

just an observation, is it just me or is the SSS the only subsonic ammo that cycles through the walther p22 without any problems. As for the grouping the Walther still puts them in the 10 ring at 50 feet.

will a glock light fit on the p22 rail???

The SD22 silencer is about the shittiest silencer you can buy.It only has about -20(dB) noise reduction.That's like half the normal Noise reduction level of a good rimfire silencer.Try putting around 5cc's of water in the rear of the silencer,and using either remington or CCI subsonics.And,yes,you definitely need to have it registered if you are going to keep it...find a class III dealer in your area,take it to him,and he will fill out the paperwork for you,you'll have to get the law-enforcement signature,passport photos,and $200 transfer tax,and the dealer will have to keep it at his store until you get approved by the ATF.But,I suggest if you decide to go through all of that,you get rid of the SD22 and buy a good silencer.That one won't last very long,and it's a sorry excuse for a silencer at that.Hope this helps.

my P22 s/n # Lxxxxxx clip #256 93 44-A is ammo sensitive had good results out of remington hi-speed cyclone. my problem is the clip comes out while shooting the gun. anyone have any info on this problem any fixes etc.

As a test, can someone confirm something for me? With an empth magazine inserted, the safety off and the hammer in the forward position, squeeze off a double action shot. Does the hammer strike the firing pin? Mine does not. My P22's hammer is stopped before it engages the firing pin and will not fire in DA mode. It has worked flawlessly other than that. Is this a common problem?

Any help is appreciated.

C

Brent--

This happens to my wife constantly, but never to me. We have identified her problem as having to do with the way she is holding the gun. Somehow, her double-handed grip is allowing her to hit the mag release when she fires. The mag only comes out after a shot, so we think the mild recoil is causing one of her fingers to come in contact wit that release lever.

I have put half again as many roundthrough the gun as her and I have never had this problem. Try firing STRONG hand only and see if the problem persists.

WHERE CAN I GET FREE INFORMATION ABOUT THE DETAILED CONSTRUCTION OF A SOUND SUPPRESSOR FOR A 9 MM. PISTOL?
THANK YOU

thanks CBJ. i got the gun for my 8 year old son.the clip comes out on him a lot. it dont fall all the way out but slips out just enough to cause the gun not to fire. i aint shot it much but the next we shoot i'll let you know it went.

I had tried that "fix" for the roll pin on the safety (the one with the dimple from under the slide) and that did not seem to work. I did try the other suggestion of pinching the end of the roll pin with a pair of pliers. That helped but, still came out a little (always to the left) so, I pushed the pin out to the right and pinched it there. Now, it has not moved. I think that pinching the pin seems to work MUCH better than the "dimple" routine!
Also, I saw a write-up about the "magazine coming out problem". I can't remember where I saw it but, they said to take a look at your trigger finger. If it is at the bottom of the trigger, it can hit the mag. release during recoil. They stated that the design "could be better" but, both me and my wife have not had this happen. Just see if you can tell your son to place the pad of his finger higher up on the trigger. This should do the trick. :)

CBJ,

I had the same problem with double action failing work and catching on the half-cock notch.

GO Here for info and a fix, but only attempt it if you are mechanically inclined.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63633

Where can I get the worm screw? I lost it.

i had the problem with the mag falling out when firing but my wife didn't. i am sure it is because i have fat fingers. i moved my finger higher on the trigger and it didn't happen, but it sucks on draw and shot because of my habit of pulling on the bottom half of the trigger. i also had feeding problems. i am going to try all the ideas in the forum. thanks for the info

Some info update
Got my P22 Target last week haven't shot it yet.
Contacted Walther in Germany to answer me two questions.
Has my pistol been manufacture by S&W or in Germany?
Answer: All P22's are manufactured in Germany.
My Serial Nr. starts with H******, when has my Pistol been manufactured.
Answer: Your pistol has been manufactured in November 2003.
The letters in the serial Nr. are not in sequence with the alphabet.
Take care
Kurt

I n May,2003 I bouht brand new P22 with conersion kit that includes both 3.4 & 5 inch barrells wwith three aim sihts and couple of gun rests. I paid 407.00 with tax. Want to know if price wa too high.

I paid 360.00 for the same thing,so 407.00 wasn't to high.Let us know what you think of the gun.

Hi all, I just read an artical in Gsns and Ammo and other firearm magazines about hornady's new .17M2 bullet that is a necked down .22cal to fit a .17cal the artical said to find out if your firearm maker is going to release a barrel for your specific gun. does anyone know if Walther or Smith and Wesson is going to make such a barrel?

I called Walther US customer service to ask about the Walther laser sight that is shown in the German 2004 catalog. I learned that the laser and pistol kit should be available in the states in late June. I e-mailed Walther Germany twice but received no reply.

Has anyone heard anything yet? I'm interested in buying an OEM laser to add to my green P22 but it can't cost an exorbitant amount of money. Maybe $200 to $250.

Anyone with knowledge about this subject, please reply. Thanks

I bought the P22 with the nickle slide and 3.4 inch barrel for $280. Fits my 90-pound, 19 year old daughter's hand perfectly. This is the first gun she's been totally comfortable shooting. We've put about 300 rounds through it so far, mostly Remington bulk box but also CCI Mini Mags. No Failures to Feed, Failures to Fire, or Failures to Extract. A few spent cases have gotten caught by the slide and a few times the slide has stopped short of full forward. I think both are due to low powder in the round. A very fun gun to shoot.

Hey All,

In spite of jams with P22 in USA or EU (Germany...) It's all about the same. P22 basically need more efficient ammo. We tried MiniMags and worked good. Stingers were a little bit problematic and according to me the best way to go is to use PMC ZAPPER-HV-HP. Don't know about fixing the problems in series past "N"

Regards from Europe.

Thinking about buying a p22 but there sure seems to be a lot of guns with problems. What serial number letter should I look for (N,L,H???) and would the suppressor adaptor with thread protector cure the loose bushing nut problem?

can someone please tell me where i can buy a factory laser for the walther p22 PLEASE! thank you very much!!! please e-mail!!!

does anyone know where I can get a Walther P22 in and around Toronto for fairly cheap. Preferably from a place that I can buy hopups to.

Well after researching and looking around I ended up trading my P22 in for a Ruger MK II. I have never looked back since. I'm sorry to say, but there are much better small caliber guns out there, both for target shooting and/or a carry weapon. My ruger has never failed to feed, jammed, misfired, failed to extract, or jammed during extraction with ANY AMMO I SHOOT WITH IT. I recommend using the FEDERAL BULK PACKS with the P22 or most other .22s for cheap ammo. It is also eons more accurate than the P22 was with my 5" barrel and the rugers is 5.5". As for a carry gun, I plan to get a Beretta Tomcat .32acp. A very nice, affordable, small gun with a bit of stopping power.

I recently purchased the P22 combo that came with both the 3.4" and the 5" barrel (not that that is really important here) - but after toying with it, breaking it down and putting it back together, I tried to see how to remove the sideplates, trigger assembly, etc. in order to change out the receiver or grip on the gun. After uneasily working on the straight pins (without so much as a budge) I'm left wondering if all they need is a hard push, good tap or what? I don't want to hammer away on them if all they need is some turning - but they don't seem to look like they do. So if anyone can help, I would be most appreciative.

Ok, whoever read what I had posted above - please disregard it... After sucking it up, I gave the pins a nice smack and they popped out (clap if you like). After doing so I was still unable to get the sideplates, trigger assembly, etc. out. Now, I suppose is my current question - what step am I missing to get that stuff out? Thanks to whomever takes the time to help me out.

I am getting a p22 target is that better then the normal p22 cuase have one on layway is it true that is a good gun e-mail me please.

I bought the P22 as a 'second' to my Glock 17 (which I love). I bout the 3.4 barrel to keep it on the inexpensive side. The Glock is pretty cheap to shoot, but I thought the Walther P22 had the look of a combat auto and felt great in my hand and would be a fun gun to pull out before or after my 9mm shooting. I did have it not eject 2x's - but figured out quickly that 22lr ammo is not only cheap but CHEAP. A dollar fifty more per hundred and now it fires perfectly. I have put about 600 rounds through it (its still new) and think it is a great gun/value. I had a short panic when I first took it apart to clean as I had been spoiled by the Glocks ease of tear down n rebuild, but after I figured out the I was putting the spring assembly in backwards (I dont like to read :) - & figured out the little rod helper and now I can tear it down and reassemble it in no time -easy. I was surprised at its accuracy and the amount of fun I have shooting it-everyone who trys it agrees that its a blast. I have read a lot of complaints about material composition, jamming, ect. and can only add that if you are expecting the performance of a 500+ dollar gun buy one-this is a sub 300 dollar gun that works great. I highly recommend as a first time gun (for you or your family members) or as and addition to your growing arsonal.

BTW - to the guy who says he got a free p22 with a silencer-it is a felony to transfer the ownership of a silencer without the $200 stamp. You have to have the paperwork with the gun at all times or you will go to jail. Have fun.
DM.