October 31, 2004Politics > Bloggers, Place Your Bets on the 2004 ElectionsUPDATE: the winning predictions have been announced over here. Psychics have an easy job. Just make a bunch of predictions. When you're wrong, keep quiet. When you're right, remind people endlessly. So for the 2004 election I'm keeping track of predictions to see which ones pan out. I'm concentrating on bloggers, columnists and news organizations. Know of a major prediction I missed? Post it in comments, or send a trackback link. November 2 - the polls are open, so the betting office is closed to new bets Now that the polls are open, I'm not taking new bets. I will still post predictions made prior to the polls opening. November 2 additions: Mark Mellman (Kerry's Chief Pollster), Electric Venom, In the Bullpen, Blogs of War, Right on Red, Watcher of Weasels, RealClearPolitics roundup (under Other Prediction Roundups), Jeff Goldstein, Bill Hobbs, TalkLeft, RedState (under Other Prediction Roundups) The bets so farAdam Groves - Bush 271, Kerry 267 Ann Coulter (various outlets) - Bush 317, Kerry 221 Ana Marie-Cox (Wonkette) - Kerry 271, Bush 267 Atrios - Kerry 284, Bush 254, with Kerry +3 in the popular vote Autonomous Source - Bush 310, Kerry 228 Bill Hobbs - Bush 293, Kerry 245 Bill White - Bush a bunch, Kerry 49 Blackfive - Bush 294, Kerry 244 Blogs of War (John Little) - Bush 280, Kerry 258 Brothers Judd average - Bush 298, Kerry 239 Colby Cosh - Bush 289, Kerry 249 Countertop Chronicles - Bush 329, Kerry 209 Daily Kos - "Kerry will win big--big as in over 5% ... and big as in 311 or more electoral votes." Dustbury - Bush 300, Kerry 238 Election Projection (based on compositing polls) - Bush 286, Kerry 252 Election Projection (based on Scott Elliott's own prediction) - Bush 356, Kerry 182 Electoral Vote (based on compositing polls) - Kerry 298, Bush 231 Electric Venom - "I predict Bush will win by a surprising majority." Frank Martin - Bush 381, Kerry 157 Fred Barnes (Weekly Standard) - Bush 306, Kerry 232 Generic Confusion - Bush 291, Kerry 247 In the Bullpen - Bush 295, Kerry 243 Irreconcilable Musings - Bush 296, Kerry 242 Jay Reding - Bush 310, Kerry 228 Jeff Goldstein - "Bush 270 plus; screw John Kerry" Jim Miller - Bush with 54% of popular vote Just on the Other Side - Bush 301, Kerry 237 Labor Department internal study (based on analysis of outside reports) - Bush victory Larry Sabato (Sabato's Crystal Ball) - Bush 276, Kerry 262 Mark Mellman (Kerry's Chief Pollster) - "an expert forecasting model suggests that Bush will get 51.6 percent of the two-party vote" Mark Steyn (various outlets) - Bush 315, Kerry 223 - if he's wrong about a Bush win he'll resign from The Spectator Mark the Pundit - Bush 319, Kerry 219 Matt Welch - Kerry 300, Bush 238 Matthew Yglesias - Bush 269 (49.3% popular), Kerry 269 (49.1% popular) Murdoc Online - Bush 305, Kerry 233 My Pet Jawa - Kerry 279, Bush 259 No Pundit - Bush victory, here's why One Fine Jay - Bush 281, Kerry 257 Outside the Beltway - Bush 286, Kerry 252 Peaktalk - Bush 290, Kerry 248 Raving Atheist - Bush 293, Kerry 245 Ray Fair (Fair Model) - Bush with 57% of two-party popular vote, based on purely economic indicators Rich Galen - Bush victory Right on Red - Bush 300, Kerry 238 Skeet Skeet Skeet - Bush 298, Kerry 240 Smug Monkey - Bush 356 (59.6% popular), Kerry 182 (40.4% popular) SouthKnoxBubba - Kerry 280, Bush 258 Spoons - Kerry 304, Bush 234 Stephen Hayes (Weekly Standard) - Kerry 291, Bush 247 Stephen Bainbridge - Bush 296 (48.9% popular), Kerry 242 (48.1% popular) Sundries Shack - Bush 322, Kerry 216 TalkLeft - Kerry 300 (52% popular), Bush 238 (47% popular) Tony Snow (Fox News) - Bush 280, Kerry 258 Tradesports via VodkaPundit - Bush 286, Kerry 252 Tucker Carlson (CNN) - Kerry 278, Bush 260 VodkaPundit (Stephen Green) - Bush 286, Kerry 252 Watcher of Weasels - Bush 279, Bin Laden 259 William Kristol (Weekly Standard) - Bush 348, Kerry 190 WizBang (Kevin Aylward) - Bush 291, Kerry 247 WizBang (Paul) - Kerry 274, Bush 264 Other Prediction RoundupsMy PredictionAnd here's my map. Bush 278, Kerry 260. Prediction made October 31. I based my predictions on the parties winning exactly the same states they won in 2000. Am I playing it safe or what? Even if Bush won exactly the same states he did in 2000, he would get a bigger electoral win because of an overall trend of voters moving from blue states to red states.
Want to play?If you'd like to put an electoral map on your site The Wall Street Journal and The LA Times have free tools that generate maps and automatically total electoral votes. Graphics tip: take a screenshot of the map, paste it into your favorite graphics program, and save it as a GIF. JPGs show nasty color banding. Posted by lesjonesThe Spoons Experience linked with BLOGGERS PREDICT Wizbang linked with Wizbang Electoral Vote Prediction Jay Reding.com linked with Electoral College Prediction 2004 One Fine Jay linked with Place yer bets The Sundries Shack linked with Predictions! Predictions ! Predictions! Autonomous Source linked with Election prediction Outside The Beltway linked with OTB Election Prediction: Bush 286, Kerry 252 I'm N.O. Pundit! linked with Why George Bush Will Win dustbury.com linked with And the inevitable prediction Peaktalk linked with ELECTORAL COLLEGE PROJECTIONS Texican Tattler linked with Les Jones's Blog: Bloggers, Place Your Bets on the Irreconcilable Musings linked with Electoral Math Blogs of War linked with Election Alert: Blogs of War Prediction Watcher of Weasels linked with My Prediction: Bush 279, Bin Laden 259 RIGHT ON RED >> linked with My Prediction(s) Six Meat Buffet linked with Caving into peer pressure PoliBlog linked with The Final Slice: It's the Election Day Toast-O-Meter Reactuate linked with Electorial College TalkLeft: The Politics of Crime linked with It's Prediction Time Watcher of Weasels linked with My Prediction: Bush 279, Bin Laden 259 The Jawa Report linked with New Prediction: Electoral Vote Tie!! Peaktalk linked with WHO WAS RIGHT? dustbury.com linked with And the inevitable prediction Comments
Re-check Election Projection's prediction. I think you have it wrong. Also, for the record, my prediction is: Ah, thanks. I've fixed their numbers and added yours. I appreciate the link, too. Posted by: Les Jones at October 31, 2004I'm predicting Nader 0. Posted by: Laurence Simon at October 31, 2004Howdy! What's with all the October predictions? :-) Here's mine from August 8, 2004: http://minutiae.stblogs.org/archives/017036.html Kerry gets between 11 and 49 electoral votes. *shrug*. Posted by: Bill White at October 31, 2004The Washington Post has some predictions, mostly from ninny pundits and assorted political hacks: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinion/outlook/outlookCrystalBall04.html I'd post the numbers here, but they're in a goofy graphic, and I'm not about to type them in by hand. The only notable prediction is Bill Kristol's: Bush 348/Kerry 190. As if that wasn't crazy enough by itself, he manages to out-crazy Ann Coulter by a wide margin (she calls it 317/221). Out-crazying Ann Coulter is no mean feat. Personally, I truly have no freakin' idea who's going to win or what the margin will be. If I had to guess, though, I suppose I'd say that it will be really close, with either Kerry or Bush pulling it out in a squeaker, although it's also possible that one of them might actually win decisively, too. And the polls back me up on this. Posted by: Steve K. at October 31, 2004I will go out on a limb, though, and say that Bush won't get 348 electoral votes. Kerry won't, either. I'm open to wagers, if anyone's interested. Posted by: Steve K. at October 31, 2004Here's mine: http://web.utk.edu/~agroves/archives/00000260.html Posted by: Adam at October 31, 2004As I first predicted on September 3, the final tally will be Bush 293, Kerry 245. Posted by: The Raving Atheist at November 01, 2004How about 329-209 Bush. I predicted a stonger finish for him in May, but he's run a poor campaign and even the Traitorous Lout is able to keep it close. For what its worth, I also tackle the Senate and make predictions in each major Senate race. Posted by: countertop at November 01, 2004Thanks to all bloggers. Now on behalf of all the Canadians who love your country and envy your political process PLEASE VOTE, GET ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS TO VOTE, GO TO THE LOCAL STARBUCKS AND GET PEOPLE YOU HAVE NEVER MET BEFORE TO VOTE. It is so important that you show all of us that people inside a country can fight like cats and dogs with bitter, angry words and then simply resolve the whole thing with the pull of a lever or a touch on a touch screen or a punch thru a punch card. The world looks to you to discover what a healthy democracy looks like, please don't let us down. Posted by: roy at November 01, 2004The Weekly Standard has a number of predictions here; http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/831ikvkm.asp Posted by: S at November 01, 2004Hey Les, Tucker Carlson has John Kerry winning. You have the EC votes reversed for Bush/Kerry on his prediction. Posted by: Adam at November 01, 2004Hi, You have the numbers reversed on this link on your page. It should be: Tucker Carlson (CNN) - Bush 260, Kerry 278 prediction made October 31 , added October 31 I know it seems strange but Tuker did vote against the Pubs. Adam and Leon: fixed, thanks. Steve and S: thanks for the links. I added some of the individual predictions to the list, and added a category at the bottom for prediction roundups. Posted by: Les Jones at November 01, 2004I think you're pretty much right. I think Bush may grab PA and NM too. Posted by: SayUncle at November 01, 2004FYI, you have posted the composite polling map from Election Projection, not Scott's own prediction. Scott's prediction is a Bush win, 356-182 in the electoral college and 51.9%-46.5% in the popular vote. Nice collection, by the way. Very handy one-stop shopping. Posted by: Young Goodman Brown at November 01, 2004A thrashing of near Reagan/Mondale proportions... http://smugmonkey.blogspot.com/2004/11/official-prediction-thread.html Popular vote: Bush 59.6 sKerry 40.4 Place your bets. Posted by: SmugMonkey at November 01, 2004Great work on this post! It's nice to see all the Political Pajama Predictions in one place. For the record, I'm standing by my August Final Prediction of Bush 305 - Kerry 233. (Map on my site but MT-Blacklist won't let me put my URL up.) If anything, I might have underestimated the spread, which I noted back then but feel even more strongly about today. But despite my misgivings, This Is My Story, And I'm Sticking To It. Posted by: murdoc at November 01, 2004Young Goodman Brown: OK, I've added Scott's own prediction and kept his polling prediction, too. Interesting that they're so radically different. Murdoc: I looked through the MT-Blacklist to see why your link was banned. "murdoc" isn't in there, so I think your URL somehow matches one of the banned addresses that includes "on1ine". (Crap! It wouldn't let me post until I mis-spelled that word. I'll have to dig some more.) I added your prediction. Yours too, Smug Monkey, and everyone else who posted, too. Thanks. Posted by: Les Jones at November 01, 2004Thanks Les - bookmarked and blogrolled! Posted by: Smug Monkey at November 01, 2004Just wanted to provide an update to my earlier prediction. We took a survey here at work (I work at one of the larger non partisan - but still rather conservative - trade associations in D.C.) and all but 2 people in the office today (myself and one other) think Kerry is going to send Bush home. Posted by: countertop at November 01, 2004Here's a bunch from American Prospect people: http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=8824 Yglesias is calling a 269-269 tie. Posted by: Devin McCullen at November 01, 2004Bush by 3-5% of PV, 7-20 EC votes. I base my Made in Canada prediciton on the fact that virtually all of Kerry's vote is actually anti-Bush. I have yet to see any evidence that people are being galvanized to march out and vote for Kerry. The anti-Bush base is stalled at about 40% of the electorate. To win an election you need to have people who really want you to win, not just people who want the other guy to lose. OBL reminded the world, and Americans, that there is a war on and Johnny Cambodia does not seem to get this. Washington insiders, most of the media, a lot of bloggers, have siddled over to Kerry because they do not see Bush executing the war very well. They are mired in the details - I mean 400 tons of explosives from a cache estimated at 500,000 tons? Out side the beltway and the editorial offices, people know there are no perfect wars. But they also know that since Bush began the war on terror there has not been a further act of terror in America. They'll break Bush tomorrow. And, possibly, break in a pretty massive way. Posted by: Jay Currie at November 01, 2004G Bush ev 296 add four more if HI goes GB's way This will be the final, after two weeks of waiting, after 10,000 lawyers get done and there are three trips to the Supreme court. Posted by: GWB the Father at November 01, 2004Thanks, Devin. I added the American Prospect link under the Roundups heading, and put Matt Yglesias' vote under the main heading. Posted by: Les Jones at November 01, 2004My prediction, as evidenced by my first commment and the accompanying link, is Bush 293, Kerry 245. For some reason, you have me as predicting Kerry 282, Bush 256 (which seems to be close to the prediction immediately beneath mine on that link). Posted by: The Raving Atheist at November 01, 2004Here's mine- 40 states for Bush, 10 for Kerry, which is 360 red vs 178 blue. Go Dubya! Posted by: Alan M. at November 02, 2004Bush 296. That's every state he won in 2000 (except NH, which I think may be contrarian) plus the states that were extremely close: Iowa, New Mexico, and Wisconsin. Key factors: voters don't trust Kerry on foreign policy, and GOP GOTV. Justification and 2000 data at pajamasphere.com/election2004/prediction.html By the way, the average prediction for Bush so far on this page is 290. For those who are predicting a major swing to Bush: add NH plus the remaining 3 swing states (MI, MN, PA). That's 348. Posted by: Pajamasphere at November 02, 2004Atheist: fixed, thanks. Posted by: Les Jones at November 02, 2004Just because all the other cool kids are doing it: Posted by: Ron at November 02, 2004I have no idea, so I'm just going with the wackiest prediction I can think of. Kerry wins most of the battleground states, the Colorado initiative passes, and one Bush elector is so depressed he defects to Badnarik. Final results after the courts weigh in: Kerry-315, Bush-222, Badnarik-1. 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