Les Jones

Les,

I was thinking about this also. Thanks for posting it here.

I think a trianing program could be set up much like the pilot triaing program. It would be secret who carried (even to others at the school).

Even though i like the idea, i would like to point out that I would perfer the teachers to carry to have a fair amount of trianing, espically in the gun grappleing area (if one kid takes their gun, everyone is in trouble).

It seems like most or all schools have guards these days. How normal is it for these guards to be unarmed? That seems like a better first step than trying to add soldier to the already excessive list of things we wish our underpaid teachers to do.

Israelis are forced to serve in the military, thus they already have some weapons training.

I wouldn't require any teachers to carry a gun. I would though allow them to carry one if they wished.

As to whether a concealed weapon permit would be enough or whether extra training should be required, I am not sure about that.

I do think that the gaurds should have weapons, and the proper training to use them.

I believe that arming teachers or ANYONE else is an attempt to band-aid an underlying problem. We don't need more guns, we need no guns. People all over the US wish to fight for their own right to carry and own a gun. So instead of surrendering their weapons or looking at the evidence in other countries where handguns and firearms are illegal to the public, they attempt to find any means necessary to legitimize their own want to continue to own a firearm by allowing themselves to think that teachers carrying guns is a good idea.

This idea should be an insightful look into some of the underlying problems we have in our nation today. You can't spank my kid but you can take a gun to school to shoot him first if he draws one BECAUSE you can't spank him.

i think allowing teachers to have guns in school is THE WORST IDEA EVER. take it from me a student, who does not beleive in this. This is the craziest thing I have ever heard about. How would you feel sending your kids to a school stashed with over 200 guns. If it was up to me I wouldnt even go to school if they did that. I mean at an aveage school there are wbout 200 personels...do the math. thnk of all the gun(all that money for training)...does not make sense...think of all the accidents that would occur..kids would feel intimidated to do work..or even get on the teachers bad side...BAN GUNSSSSS.PERIOD!!!!

i think that teachers should only be able to carry guns to school if they have had training and if they have a permit to carry gun. children and teens should not be able to handle any weopons whatsoever unless supervised by trained proffesional.

I feel if anyone a minor or not endangers the live's of other's in ANY setting the people in charge of the setting should by ALL MEANS use deadly force to Stop not just controle the situation,, better One dead than possably several.

Most of you anti-gun types are missing the most valid points here: no one is saying teachers/janitors MUST be armed, but that they may if they choose.

To those of you who are afraid of guns, remember, the police have guns. Are you afraid of the police? You should be afraid of those who would do you harm. Is that really an armed teacher or janitor? Criminals operate in the realm of gray, where things aren't so clear. They thrive on your hesitance and reluctance. They capitalize on your unwillingness to defend yourself. When was the last time you heard rape prevention instructors tell you to "give up and give in"? Evil doers and criminals prefer unarmed victims - they're much easier to deal with. Have you EVER heard of a criminal engaging in violent crime at a gun-show or shooting event? Of course not, the participants would shoot back and likely shoot better than the criminal.

The simplest way to "arm" is to provide a black fanny pack to all teachers and encourage them to wear them. Make it known that the fanny pack can contain a firearm. Whether it does or not is up to the teachers and principals. A fanny pack speaks loudly to an evil-doer. It says "I may contain a gun, or a can of pepper spray, or my cigarettes, or nothing at all". The evil-doer is left wondering, "whats in the bag?"

This simple example of installing doubt in the mind of the evil-doer is the beginning of the end on armed agression.

Think about it: a camera on a school bus that records the actions of the kids halts the agressive nature of nearly all children. Is that really a camera, or just a box with a blinking red light? It doesn't matter, because they both have the same effect. We call that results.

Another example; in debt-collections: The letter reads, please pay the bill, OR, tell us not to bother you anymore. Either way, your response is necessary so we can tell you what we plan to do. Please decide so we can decide. Reading the collection letter makes you wonder and creates anxiety. Often, you pay the bill to avoid the unknown.

Readers, please, deterrence is the answer. Can you really afford to wait for the police? Didn't the kids at Columbine "wait" for the police? Hasn't every victim of any armed agression "waited" for the police? Why wait? Handle the events before you on your own while you "wait" for the cavalry.

Just consider me armed and safely dangerous to bad guys.

The key to protecting our children is to keep weapons out of school, yet this politician is proposing that we bring more weapons in. His justification is that schools in other countries have similar practices...forgetting that schools in those countries are heavily populated by terrorists and other insurgent groups using violence for political influence or as an act of war. That is not quite the same situation we have here. But, if you have a disturbed individual in your community planning a hostage/murder/suicide, is that person deterred by the fact that dozens of law enforcement and SWAT personnel are going to arrive within a few minutes and put a few hundred rounds in his body? No, that's part of the "Blaze of Glory" plan...so why would one gun in the hands of a teacher who thinks he's a "Kindergarten Cop" present much of a challenge or deterrent? That teacher will be nothing more than an appetizer for someone prepared to defend against the arrival of a small army...and the first one to die.

Anyway, that's my argument. Security belongs in the hands of trained professionals, not school teachers. While this politician's proposal was made with good intentions, it is only a "knee-jerk" reaction, not a well-thought out solution to prevent these tragic events.

they should not!!!!!! are you stupid

"The key to protecting our children is to keep weapons out of school, yet this politician is proposing that we bring more weapons in."

This is a naive statement. There are obviously plenty of laws and rules aimed at doing just that, but if a person is demented and determined enough the rules and laws can be circumvented.

It's like saying "the way to prevent drug addiction is simply to keep drugs out of the country." How many laws are there against drugs? Yet people that want them get them, everyday.

Why do people think that MORE laws against gun ownership will have any better effect at keeping people who want them from getting them?

I am a school teacher, and I am very pleased that we have a trained, armed Safety Regulation Officer on campus every day. Furthermore, I agree that teachers who are willing to go through a serious and thorough training session on gun safety, gun control, shooting, and physical gun grappling, and
are willing to submit to a thorough background check should be allowed to concealed carry in school.

One of my fellow teachers, who is also my selfdefense instructor teaches these type classes to individuals who want to learn to shoot, and defend themselves with a gun.