February 10, 2006Guns > Glock ButtAlphecca has the story of a Louisiana cop whose jacket drawstring got inside the triggerguard of his Glock. The result was an accidental discharge into his butt. A pistol with a five pound trigger pull and no thumb or grip safety or external hammer makes me nervous. Having to pull the trigger to disassemble it is also a bad idea (see the Glock Arm link below). If I ever buy a Glock for serious purposes I'm putting in a heavier trigger. See also: Resistance is futile! linked with Carnival of Cordite #47 Comments
Heh. You keep calling it 'glock [insert body part]'. I prefer to call it 'gun safety [insert body part]'. I don't really think a heavier trigger pull would have helped in this case. Pulling a gun with string in the trigger wouldn't require as much effort with the full force of an arm. And depending on how it was gripped, a grip safety may not have. A manual safety would have but then so would clearing the weapon of obstacles before holstering it. Posted by: SayUncle at February 09, 2006A heavier trigger might have prevented this accident, a grip safety might have, an external hammer might have, a thumb safety probably would have. What do all these things have in common? Answer: the Glock doesn't have any of them. Posted by: Les Jones at February 09, 2006But we all should have gun safety! Don't pull the trigger and it don't go boom. I don't see how an external hammer would have made a lick of difference, btw. Posted by: SayUncle at February 09, 2006We should all practice gun safety. Absolutely. But some guns give a little more margin of error than others for times when our gun safety is less than perfect. With an external hammer you can keep your thumb over the hammer to resist and sense movement of the hammer and by extension the trigger. Posted by: Les Jones at February 09, 2006Is the trigger pull so light on all glocks? I don't really plan on buying a gun any time soon, but I read a few "beginner gun" guides (one of which I think uncle linked to), and decided if I ever did, a Glock 17 or 21 or something would probably be a good choice. But something about a light trigger pull bothers me.. Seeing someone that shot himself in the hand doesn't help. Posted by: Chris Wage at February 10, 2006Glock trigger is about 5 pounds. My sig is about 12 pounds double action and 4.5 single. Posted by: SayUncle at February 10, 2006Chris, a Glock probably isn't what I'd recommend for a first gun. Not that's an expert's gun or whatever, but between the safety issues and the sort of utilitarian nature, there are better choices. An S&W revolver with a trigger job would be my first recommendation. If you want an autoloader, take a look at SIGs and CZs. Both are wonderful guns that are much more satisfying to shoot than a Glock. The SIG costs about two hundred bucks more than a Glock and the CZ costs about a hundred bucks less. (And there are other good choices besides those two, but these are two good brands that will be reliable out of the box.) SIG has a new trigger system called the DAK that's very Glock-like. By that I mean that every trigger pull is the same weight, and the action is partially cocked by the previous round, so it's not too heavy. The pull weight is closer to seven or eight pounds, and there's an external hammer, so it's a bit safer. And honestly, a SIG is a much, much nicer gun to shoot than a Glock. Posted by: Les Jones at February 10, 2006If SIGs are "very Glock-like," it sounds like your basis for recommendation must be the other reason you cite, "the sort of utilitarian nature." Could be inexpensive and utilitarian are GOOD things. A good "first choice" handgun is the combination of an affordable gun and a safety course. Anything else is a VERY distant second. Posted by: Jim at February 13, 2006The utilitarian part is good - Glocks are very reliable guns and about as corrosion-resistant as you can get. It's just that for me I don't get a lot of enjoyment out of shooting them. And having a piece of equipment that's enjoyable to use is a good thing, too, especially for a beginner. The CZ is also more enjoyable to shoot, and is cheaper than the Glock, to boot. Posted by: Les Jones at February 13, 2006I personaly dont keep my glock chambered only because i have a kid and I wont chance an accident and if I need to I know how to pull the action back, but I also know how to keep my damn figer off the trigger the large majority of these accidents happen because the idiot has there finger on the trigger when they shouldnt.one way to practice gun safty have respect for your firearm. Posted by: pete at October 13, 2007I personaly dont keep my glock chambered only because i have a kid and I wont chance an accident and if I need to I know how to pull the action back, but I also know how to keep my damn figer off the trigger the large majority of these accidents happen because the idiot has there finger on the trigger when they shouldnt.one way to practice gun safty have respect for your firearm. Posted by: pete at October 13, 2007Post a comment
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