Les Jones

You and I don't agree on this one Les.Plame could have been murdered, like the CIA employee killed when a madman attacked the CIA HQ in Langley a few years back. Cheney, Rove, etc etc let their politics get in the way of their humanity..and I hope they become wiser and a whole lot poorer in their wallets after this is over...

You're assuming an awful lot. I just hashed this out in comments at another site last weekend, but here's the short version: There have been a lot of claims about what the Bush administration did and what was said, but the facts haven't borne those things out, which is why Rove and those guys haven't been indicted, and why Fitzgerald is finished with them.

According to Novak, his source only told Novak that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA in the context of "that's how he got the job." Source never told Novak her name, and for all I know didn't even know her name, and didn't know she would be considered undercover. (She had not been overseas for five years.)

Novak says Rove said something that he took as confirming that Wilson's wife was in the CIA. Again, he never gave Novak Plame's name and may not have known it.

Novak says he got Valerie Plame's name from Joe Wilson's entry in "Who's Who in America," an entry he authorized.

If a person is truly concerned about covert operations and covert personnel being revealed, it seems like they'd be a lot more concerned about the NY Times story that revealed a secret, ongoing, international CIA program and showed pictures of the plane involved along with the plane's identification number, the name of the charter company involved, and other details.

as far as Plame is concerned, you don't have to be overseas to be murdered...as the CIA EMPLOYEE WHO WAS MURDERED AT LANGLEY CAN TESTIFY TO..IF THEY WERE ALIVE TO DO SO...the fact that she was outed by Aldridge Ames, used for an excuse by Robert Novak on a recent interview is a specious excuse as Muslim terrorists don't have to be told by the KGB who CIA employees are to murder them, they can just read Novak's column... as far as the claim Wilson outed his wife in Who's Who, if you read the blub it only says he is married to her and their wedding date, it doesn't say she is a CIA employee.
I don't know what story in the NYT you are referring to.The much ballyhooed financial story , that the CIA and others are working with Treasury to monitor financial transactions was mentioned by Bush himself in previous interviews and was no secret..Bush and the repubs hoped to use it to gain political capitol out of it.Doesn't appear to have helped them much.As far as redentions, kidnapping alleged terrorists and using covert CIA flights to take them to secret prisons where they are tortured...there's no proof that has benefitted us in any way.They've even kidnapped the wrong people and in at least one case are being sued for it. Most of our intel seems to have come from either traitors within AL QUIDA or people captured by Pakistan and other allies who they turned over to us. So the Bush administration's so-called war on terror has benn a dismal failure.As it is it has cost us credibility among moderate Arabs and Muslims so we can't influence ..in any positive sense..the ongoing crisis in Lebanon and Gaza, or stop Iran or North Korea from becoming nuclear threats.Historians will place the blame for that on George Bush.

"the fact that she was outed by Aldridge Ames"

And you're 100% sure about that fact? Based on what? For instance, how do you know it's not Richard Armitage? My point being, a lot of people have pretended to know a lot of facts that weren't.

"I don't know what story in the NYT you are referring to"

The one I linked to.

"As far as redentions, kidnapping alleged terrorists and using covert CIA flights to take them to secret prisons where they are tortured...there's no proof that has benefitted us in any way."

And of course you know for a fact that's exactly what was happening.

Anyway, the point isn't whether or not the program was effective. The point was that it endangered the lives of those CIA agents, who were undercover and who were operating overseas. Yet no one who is upset about Plame is upset about the NY Times revealing critical details of that secret CIA program.

Robert Novak said Ames outed Plame to the Soviets...
There are no critical details about the program.Bush and other admin officials had mentioned it in previous interviews. As it is well known AL QUIDA has infiltrated the Muslim charities..so there's no real way for us to find out where the money is going.9-11 hijackers received money from the United Arab Emirates., the same country that is our alleged ally in the war on terror. None of those banking steps Bush's administration is doing would reveal terror financing from Muslim countries where AL QUIDA sympathizers live and operate among those countries elites...All that media story Bush and his cronies put out was much ado about nothing...just designed to booster his sagging poll numbers...