Les Jones

Sweet. And it's 308.

George Kelgren is nothing if not tenacious. I like that. I even own a P32 that is carried everywhere, everyday.

Him stepping up with a major rifle/caliber combination is an excellent step, if for no other reason than to stick it to the Brady Center and Rep. McCarthy, Schumer, et al.

Wonder what mags he's using, looked like G3/HK91.

i'm really looking forward to this thing's release on the market; i figure by the time the Kel-Tec people get the early teething problems worked out and a second-generation version with all the kinks worked out hits the street, i might've saved up enough cash to actually afford one. it could very well become the first real firearm i buy for my very own.

another common problem with bullpups, other than ejection, is trigger linkage. with the hammer so far from the trigger, the need to stretch the fire control mechanism out sometimes makes for really awful trigger action. most designs put the sear near the trigger and then link that to the hammer, and getting the balances and lever moments right in between the two seems hard. this design is unusual in that it puts the sear near the trigger, then links that backwards to the hammer; i'm anxious to learn how that works out.

...argh. that last sentence of mine is all FUBAR. of course, the most common way to build a bullpup is to put the sear near the hammer, not near the trigger, and this KT product is unusual in that it does the latter instead of the former.

and the magazines will supposedly be FAL. i suppose the rifle in the video might be a prototype that perhaps might be using something else, but the brochure Kel-Tec released at the most recent SHOT show talked about FAL mags.

Reportedly the trigger doesn't suck totally like most bullpups.

As freakin' sweet as that thing is, the manner of ejection looks like a massive FTF just waiting to happen.

I could be wrong...but that just seems overcomplicated.

I have heard that the MSRP is somewhere close to $3K.

If this is accurate, then no thanks.

James

The MSRP (projected, a high-ball guess IMHO) is $2000 for the carbine (18"bbl) $2500 for the sporter (24"bbl) and $3000 for the target version (32"bbl). Their inside guy was saying the target rifle was getting 3/4" groups at 100 yards, which if true, kicks ass. They use metric FAL mags, and hopefully will not be illegal by the time the thing is actually available.

I can buy left handed (left-eyed, really, I'm ambisinister) for a lot less than that. I don't see that a bullpup I can shoot is that important to me.

Sounds intereting, and I would like to try one and maybe even own one, but for near $2,000??? Since when has KEL-TEC ever made anything that expensive?