April 21, 2007

Municipal Wi-Fi > Municipal Wi-Fi Censorship

From Instapundit:

BOINGBOING BANNED IN BOSTON: This is the best argument against municipal wi-fi systems -- they're sure to be run by idiots who can't resist meddling and censoring.

I agree. That is a tremendously compelling argument against municipal wi-fi.

If the government provides Internet service there will be enormous political pressure to filter the content. First it will be smut, as defined by the voting block screaming the loudest. Then you'll see pressure to ban "hate" sites, abortion information, drug information, and anything to do with weapons.

Some commercial Web filters already categorize my blog under the "weapons" category because of the information I post about guns. If the organizations using those filters decide to block weapons sites, my site will be blocked. In the wake of something like last week's VA Tech shooting imagine the political pressure a city government would be under to censor Web sites that have to do with weapons.

If you don't want the government deciding what you can and can't see on the Internet, don't depend on the government to provide your Internet access.

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First it will be smut

Like this filthy, filthy site ("Gulf South Research Corporation (GSRC) is a small, woman-owned, SBA 8(a) certified environmental consulting firm located in Baton Rouge, Louisiana."), the entirety of which is blocked by Panera's SonicWall installation as Category 6: Adult/Mature Content.

Some words and phrases contained within just a single page:

"densely hairy"
"shrub"
"erect stem"
"slightly hairy on their bottoms"
"male"
"female"
"deep red"

and, of course,

"sex".

Best to have your algorithms err on the side of caution, I say.
Think about the children.

Posted by: Steve K. at April 21, 2007

And ironically, the spam filter put your comment in the moderation queue. :-)

"Moderating for Word Filter match on 'sex': 'sex'."

Posted by: Les Jones at April 21, 2007

And my comment quoting the spam filter got caught by the spam filter. Sheesh!

Posted by: Les Jones at April 21, 2007

It reminds me of when Panera's filtering service used to block my blog as a porn site because we have a category called "Boobs!" I wrote to them and pointed out that while every once in a while an adult picture has been posted in that category, it's usually off the main page and much of the category is talk about breasts from a unique perspective that's not always sexual (see: John McCain's support of girl-on-girl action, breast boosting beer and breasts as protective devices). I also made the point that the topics I most frequently write about are politics and guns, categories that have more than 10 times the posts in each one than the Boobs! category. They finally read my email and lifted the ban.

If this doesn't set off your spam filter, I'm disappointed.

Posted by: Bitter at April 22, 2007

Great post Les on a very serious topic. This is the wave of the future. Expect partisan and ideological filters in the very near future. The first wave has already passed.

The utopia disutopia of the future is when there are no disagreements.

Rodney King was wrong, we cannot all get along. It is not human nature. There is nothing wrong or unnatural about disagreement. What is wrong is those who will filter and censor disagreement.

Posted by: Number9 at April 22, 2007

I might start up a blog for the sole reason of banning you, nine.

Posted by: Steve K. at April 22, 2007

Bitter: sure enough, you got caught in the spam filter.

Posted by: Les Jones at April 22, 2007

I might start up a blog for the sole reason of banning you, nine.

You would not be the first...

Posted by: Number9 at April 23, 2007

And hopefully, I won't be the last.

Posted by: Steve K. at April 23, 2007

And hopefully, I won't be the last.

Why should the public be protected from me Steve? Are you concerned I might convince someone of some idea?

Ideas are dangerous aren't they?

Posted by: Number9 at April 23, 2007

Banning Les, and Uncle, and that other guy, who's name I forget, was lame since they have interesting, thoughtful points of views that serve to further discussions, and they argue fairly and productively.

You too, have interesting and thoughtful things to add, some I agree with, some I don't. I really enjoyed having that part of you on KnoxViews or the blab, and I would stand up any day to defend you if that was the bulk of what you posted. But it wasn't. Mostly it was unbearably annoying, content-free argumentation for the sake of argumentation, refusal to address points people brought up that conflicted with what you said, mid-thread changing of subject, irrelevant and often unsubstantiated or unfair ad-hom attacks on on public officials and message board participants, and just general churlishness.

The only danger you pose is drowning out substantive discussion, but mostly, you're just annoying.

Posted by: Steve K. at April 23, 2007

Steve, are you Whitescreek?

For your information the "other guy" is Rich Hailey.

Out of over 800 members of KnoxViews 237 were given "Trusted User" status. It was a much bigger deal than just Les, Uncle, Rich, and myself being silenced.

You liked some posts of mine and some you didn't, if I understand your second paragraph. And then there is the annoying thing.

As one of the top posters and commenters on KnoxViews I used almost NO ad-hominem attacks on anyone. In my entire time on KnoxViews I used the word "stupid" twice. As one of the most insulted people on KnoxViews I turned the cheek when people attacked me.

I think your real beef is that I didn't buckle under. Not many people could take on a pack at one time. I did admit I wrong on occasion. But not because enough people formed a consensus I was wrong, because I don't care about consensus.

I care about what I think and I understand. When I was wrong or learned new information I admitted so.

So you feel I am annoying? Then why are you here? Miss me?

I will have a new post on KTB Tuesday and comments are now open on KTB. Come on by.

Free speech is a great thing. Even for annoying people.

Posted by: Number9 at April 23, 2007

So you feel I am annoying? Then why are you here?

Good point.

Posted by: Steve K. at April 23, 2007

I suppose that webpages could be encoded in rot13 and then use JavaScript to decode it. I don't think filters normally check for it.

Posted by: Alcibiades at April 23, 2007
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